Windows 11 General Discussion

[ThrashZone]

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22616

UPDATE 5/10: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22616.100 (KB5014650). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in the Dev and Beta Ch

blogs.windows.com

Not really a lot of remarkable stuff to share since the last time I did this, but a few notes for the future that I'm sure some of you guys will be interested in:

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• Windows Security will now consider having memory integrity disabled as something worth warning the user (so seeing the Windows security icon turned yellow likely means that Memory integrity is disabled)

Hi,
One of the main reasons I get rid of WD it's just pestware with it's silly yellow flags for any setting out of default/ personal preferences changes
Now yellow for it's default setting for this

 

[windwhirl]

One of the main reasons I get rid of WD it's just pestware with it's silly yellow flags for any setting out of default/ personal preferences changes

You're mixing the two. Windows Defender is the anti-malware/firewall. Windows Security is the control panel of sorts for Windows Defender and the other security stuff, such as exploit mitigation features (ASLR, DEP, Control Flow Guard, etc.) and SmartScreen.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Only mix up is ms renaming it's the same lousy app by any name ms comes up with or security features it adds.

End result disabled.

 

[theFOoL]

What y'all think about M$ and not allowing people who installed 11 on unsupported hw and not getting the feature updates but only security updates. I find this to faults or they are just not say... Care about it

 

[ThrashZone]

What y'all think about M$ and not allowing people who installed 11 on unsupported hw and not getting the feature updates but only security updates. I find this to faults or they are just not say... Care about it

Hi,
There's already a workaround
Just replace appraiserres.dll with a blank one.

 

[theFOoL]

Hi,
There's already a workaround
Just replace appraiserres.dll with a blank one.

I know that. Just wondering if M$ will do anything about it

 

[ThrashZone]

I know that. Just wondering if M$ will do anything about it

Hi,
What's to say about it ?
It's going in the category of typical ms 11 bs

If you knew about the workaround why didn't you mention it ?

 

[theFOoL]

Hi,
What's to say about it ?
It's going in the category of typical ms 11 bs

If you knew about the workaround why didn't you mention it ?

I knew about the reg hack months before the 1909 came to life. I'm just Wondering if M$ will have a update to say... scan the PC's Parts to block Further updates but only security as tated months back

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
"Feature update" not sure it matters
New features blocking on older hardware could be anything related to new security features which I sure don't want anymore security features there's to many now to disable.

Anything else would just be new social nonsense probably

Not sure what 1909 introduced that needed a reg hack as you say hell wasn't that win-10.

 

[theFOoL]

sorry yes I typed the win10 ha. Well let's get back on topic which we... are lol

 

[windwhirl]

What y'all think about M$ and not allowing people who installed 11 on unsupported hw and not getting the feature updates but only security updates.

The requirements are sound, but forcing them is stupid. If someone wants to run Windows 11 on unsupported hardware, let them. If the OS breaks down in their face because the machine does not match or exceed the minimum requirements, that's on the user.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Well it's been pretty normal practice of windows update to check hardware before installing updates so this is nothing new

What's not normal is replacing appraiserres.dll with a new blank one so windows update can install an update

But in all win-11 welcome to the new normal to install block hw updates if you actually want the update
As we've seen lately updates aren't all that good to jump on and actually can get recalled

Best policy is to disable updating and wait for the smoke to clear before messing with them.

What y'all think about M$ and not allowing people who installed 11 on unsupported hw and not getting the feature updates but only security updates. I find this to faults or they are just not say... Care about it

So really you want to rehash the first 100 pages of this thread about appraiserres.dll

 

[theFOoL]

Hi,
Well it's been pretty normal practice of windows update to check hardware before installing updates so this is nothing new

What's not normal is replacing appraiserres.dll with a new blank one so windows update can install an update

But in all win-11 welcome to the new normal to install block hw updates if you actually want the update
As we've seen lately updates aren't all that good to jump on and actually can get recalled

Best policy is to disable updating and wait for the smoke to clear before messing with them.


So really you want to rehash the first 100 pages of this thread about appraiserres.dll

I never used the. DLL but that of the reg upon the installer by USB

 

[ThrashZone]

I never used the. DLL but that of the reg upon the installer by USB

Hi,
Yep rufus did all the workarounds needed
@W1zzard workaround you'd use cmd and import the reg I believe.

Either way both might have to be tweaked a little and create a new blank appraiserres.dll instead of just deleting it.

 

[theFOoL]

Hi,
Yep rufus did all the workarounds needed
@W1zzard workaround you'd use cmd and import the reg I believe.

Either way both might have to be tweaked a little and create a new blank appraiserres.dll instead of just deleting it.

why can't M$ sue then LoL

 

[ThrashZone]

why can't M$ sue then LoL

Hi,
Changes aren't locked.

 

[Greenslade]

I was thinking of getting Windows 10 on my Imac 2017 this way is a lot easier than other ways to get it on a external drive with using bootcamp on the internel drive ,And Macrium reflrct to migrate it from Bootcamp to the external drive.then upgrading to win 11.Is the 2017 one of the Cpu,s that are able to do that.?
If not i will be happy to have Win10 on the external drive
Windows11 on an external drive on a Mac. i like this guys videos ,i have been watching them for some years now.

I found the answer it is only just outside it
Intel’s i5-7500 processor is not compatible with Windows 11. The processor is not supported by Microsoft for upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. The i5-7500 processor based computers would fit in to other compatibility check conditions of Windows 11. However, the problem seems to be the fact that this is a seventh generation processor of Intel. And, Microsoft’s Windows 11 does not support seventh generation of Intel processors.

 

[Nike_486DX]

I was thinking of getting Windows 10 on my Imac 2017 this way is a lot easier than other ways to get it on a external drive with using bootcamp on the internel drive ,And Macrium reflrct to migrate it from Bootcamp to the external drive.then upgrading to win 11.Is the 2017 one of the Cpu,s that are able to do that.?
If not i will be happy to have Win10 on the external drive
Windows11 on an external drive on a Mac. i like this guys videos ,i have been watching them for some years now.

I found the answer it is only just outside it
Intel’s i5-7500 processor is not compatible with Windows 11. The processor is not supported by Microsoft for upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. The i5-7500 processor based computers would fit in to other compatibility check conditions of Windows 11. However, the problem seems to be the fact that this is a seventh generation processor of Intel. And, Microsoft’s Windows 11 does not support seventh generation of Intel processors.

not compatible due to what? i5 7500 is 7th gen kaby lake, if its not supported then why they list i7 7800X (6th gen skylake x) as supported (both support tpm 2.0 btw)? Thats straight up bs, and also win 11 can be installed even on core 2 duo if you really want to use it (win 11 itself is crap, just reskinned 10 with worse ui).

 

[Greenslade]

not compatible due to what? i5 7500 is 7th gen kaby lake, if its not supported then why they list i7 7800X (6th gen skylake x) as supported (both support tpm 2.0 btw)? Thats straight up bs, and also win 11 can be installed even on core 2 duo if you really want to use it (win 11 itself is crap, just reskinned 10 with worse ui).

Yes that is what Microsoft says my i5 7500,
I don,t know about the 17 7800X
Yes i am aware of that.
I do agree with you about Windows 11 ,as you can see from my post on here earler.
I see from this list your one can
Not all Intel 7th generation processors are compatible with Windows 11. The 7th gen Intel processors that are compatible with Windows 11 are:

• Intel i7-7740X
• Intel i7-7820X
• Intel i7-7820HQ
• Intel i7-7800X
• Intel i9-7920X
• Intel i9-7940X
• Intel i9-7960X
• Intel i9-7980XE

 

[lexluthermiester]

What y'all think about M$ and not allowing people who installed 11 on unsupported hw and not getting the feature updates but only security updates. I find this to faults or they are just not say... Care about it

I shut off auto-updates anyway and manually install the updates I care about. This really has no effect on people like me.

 

[Mr Bill]

I shut off auto-updates anyway and manually install the updates I care about. This really has no effect on people like me.

I have multiple PC's, but only use one of them to get on the internet with, and I back it up often, especially before any update.

 

[ThrashZone]

I shut off auto-updates anyway and manually install the updates I care about. This really has no effect on people like me.

Hi,
Yep it's just for feature updates so far it just adds one more step if you want that update
Not a classification I'd care about seeing most would just be adding more bloat and or more than likely loading bloat we've already removed

Yes that is what Microsoft says my i5 7500,
I don,t know about the 17 7800X
Yes i am aware of that.
I do agree with you about Windows 11 ,as you can see from my post on here earler.
I see from this list your one can
Not all Intel 7th generation processors are compatible with Windows 11. The 7th gen Intel processors that are compatible with Windows 11 are:

• Intel i7-7740X
• Intel i7-7820X
• Intel i7-7820HQ
• Intel i7-7800X
• Intel i9-7920X
• Intel i9-7940X
• Intel i9-7960X
• Intel i9-7980XE

Think all 99..x were added to with a bios update.

 

[Nike_486DX]

Yes that is what Microsoft says my i5 7500,
I don,t know about the 17 7800X
Yes i am aware of that.
I do agree with you about Windows 11 ,as you can see from my post on here earler.
I see from this list your one can
Not all Intel 7th generation processors are compatible with Windows 11. The 7th gen Intel processors that are compatible with Windows 11 are:

• Intel i7-7740X
• Intel i7-7820X
• Intel i7-7820HQ
• Intel i7-7800X
• Intel i9-7920X
• Intel i9-7940X
• Intel i9-7960X
• Intel i9-7980XE

yeah but the point is, all these X marked (s2066) processors except 7740X and 7640X are actually 6th gen, so the whole point of that list is moot. As they say on the official ms website, "if your processor is not on the list then it may not be able to run win11 due to lack of instruction sets". But thats hilarious because just for reference, in order to run Win10 you need sse3, so even a socket 478 pentium (thats 2003) can run it. I have seen a core 2 duo machine to run win11, and its ofc understandable since we are still talking about windows 10.1 and the ancient core 2 duo has got additional things like ssse3 and 4.1 too. So for a i5 7500 you wont have any issues, except you have some weird artificial limitations (crappy oem bios, bootcamp, etc).

 

[Greenslade]

yeah but the point is, all these X marked (s2066) processors except 7740X and 7640X are actually 6th gen, so the whole point of that list is moot. As they say on the official ms website, "if your processor is not on the list then it may not be able to run win11 due to lack of instruction sets". But thats hilarious because just for reference, in order to run Win10 you need sse3, so even a socket 478 pentium (thats 2003) can run it. I have seen a core 2 duo machine to run win11, and its ofc understandable since we are still talking about windows 10.1 and the ancient core 2 duo has got additional things like ssse3 and 4.1 too. So for a i5 7500 you wont have any issues, except you have some weird artificial limitations (crappy oem bios, bootcamp, etc).

Its an IMac nothing crappy about it.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

The feature W11 is requiring is VBS. Virtualizing memory for security. Only high end processors from before gen 7 or 2 support it