TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Greenslade]

He says the BIOS layout and design is different, which will be true across all manufacturers and even typically between different motherboards. Broadly speaking, they all work in the same way, and are all accessed by pressing a designated keyboard key on POST. But the key differs, the layout and available options will differ, and so on. But why are you looking at laptop troubleshooting videos? And videos on BIOSes from an entirely different era than your retro PC? You're not likely to find much of use there outside of very general things.

I get your point there.

 

[P4-630]

In Eastern Europe, basically everyone back then just asked friends to burn cracked Windows on DVD, which they downloaded from FTP and then just installed it and got key from keygen or from already pre-generated code. That's not even a small operation. Those were like literally everyone, unless they got work laptop or worked in legit IT company. Same deal with games too.

I used to live in Bangkok, cheap cracked software everywhere, I miss using SolidWorks....

 

[The red spirit]

I used to live in Bangkok, cheap cracked software everywhere, I miss using SolidWorks....

Wait, you had to pay for it? We only had to pay for burned console games. PC stuff was free and just shared between friends. X360 and PS3 games were only paid, because they required special burners and specific and expensive discs. Due to that burning them wasn't available to everyone and those who burned actually had quite a nice and basic illegal business. They didn't make a lot of money mostly just pocket change. Profit margins were pretty low, like 5-10%. And since one disc wasn't very expensive, you didn't make much even if you sold a lot of them. Some of more profitable ones actually opened small shops that flash consoles, modify their software. Some of them also host online forums about games and pirating them. I have to admit that I wasn't a cool guy and just bought used X360 games, but in the end after my X360 started malfunctioning I bought cheap X360, which had Reset Glitch Hack 2 with Freestyle FW. That really does make X360 a lot more functional. In theory it can now play almost any video/audio file, can run homebrew software, shows HW info, records gameplay, can unlock DLC, has game trainers and most importantly launches pirated games off USB without disc. If you badly want online, you could setup XLink Kai, but it's probably dead now. X360 also can run quite a lot of emulators too and it was supposed to run Xbox Original games too. I tried that, but it didn't work for me. In short, X360 with RGH2 becomes a lot liek PC or X360 devkit, but for cheap and available rather easily. I don't use it anymore, but I really appreciate having something like that. I'm not alone. hacked X360 is MVG's second favourite console with og Xbox being is most favourite console, of course, hacked too.

 

[P4-630]

Wait, you had to pay for it?

I paid 2 Euros per burned cd, it didn't matter what software it was generally.

 

[Valantar]

Wait, you actually bought Windows? In Eastern Europe, basically everyone back then just asked friends to burn cracked Windows on DVD, which they downloaded from FTP and then just installed it and got key from keygen or from already pre-generated code. That's not even a small operation. Those were like literally everyone, unless they got work laptop or worked in legit IT company. Same deal with games too. Also same deal with PS2 or Xbox. Like 60-70% of PS2s or Xboxes were flashed and most likely never saw a single original DVD ever. I still have one of those cracked Windows XP installs from back then and it still works fine. But now if you are more sophisticated, you can just download legit Windows ISO and find key on old computer ads. At this point nobody cares if someone nicks their XP key.

Lol, no, but WXP was when the whole scene of crappy virus-laden OS ISOs started spreading like wildfire. I was far too poor to pay for Windows, but had other quasi-legal means of getting W2K keys at the time - not so for XP. But I saw/helped rescue enough friends from virus-laden "OS" installs to shy away from that whole thing at the time. Mind you, I was in my mid teens and didn't know crap at the time, so that was also a factor

 

[The red spirit]

I paid 2 Euros per burned cd, it didn't matter what software it was generally.

That sounds reasonable, but frankly you miss out on some real pirate experience this way. FTPs, torrent sites and torrent clients are really interesting and the most impressive thing are all those small hacker groups. Some of them are insanely skilled. Fitgirl actually repacks cracked games and often they become 2-3 times smaller. I remember there was one small group, which achieved crazy compression ratios like 10-15 times without losing any content. Not to mention that many of them also manage to crack games very early. They make me truly admire those communities. You don't see skills like that everyday.

 

[Audioave10]

PNY 7600 GS 512MB Pci Express with newer camera - Practice for Pictures.

 

[Greenslade]

it seems likr a lot of people have the same problem as me

xp-sp3 - USB and PS2 mouse/keyboard won't work​

Keyboards and mice work in BIOS or booting from something else. I have reset the BIOS, run virus scans through HirensCD, enabled USB and PS2 settings in BIOS, safe mode, last good configuration, et al.
Is there a tool so that I can edit the device manager's settings? I am betting if I could disable or delete the keyboard and mouse, it would reload them on next boot.
Or something else? Replace the drivers for the standard keyboard and mouse? If so, what files? I have access to xp machines that work well.
At least my Keyboard works . I do have sp3
someone else said this
if the issue is on a desktop, then usb mouse connectivity may be secondaray to the motherboards primary ps2 mouse and keyboard connections.
I will sei the Pc up again and try to get into the bios.

 

[68Olds]

That would be something to try, open the Device Manager and navigate to the "Mice & other Pointing Devices" section & delete everything under it.
The Win10 PC I'm on right now has two entries in that section. I got there using the arrow keys & hitting the Del key will delete an entry. Have your WinXP install disk handy.

 

[Valantar]

it seems likr a lot of people have the same problem as me

xp-sp3 - USB and PS2 mouse/keyboard won't work​

Keyboards and mice work in BIOS or booting from something else. I have reset the BIOS, run virus scans through HirensCD, enabled USB and PS2 settings in BIOS, safe mode, last good configuration, et al.
Is there a tool so that I can edit the device manager's settings? I am betting if I could disable or delete the keyboard and mouse, it would reload them on next boot.
Or something else? Replace the drivers for the standard keyboard and mouse? If so, what files? I have access to xp machines that work well.
At least my Keyboard works . I do have sp3
someone else said this
if the issue is on a desktop, then usb mouse connectivity may be secondaray to the motherboards primary ps2 mouse and keyboard connections.
I will sei the Pc up again and try to get into the bios.

I'd really recommend you use the quote tool in the post editor to highlight things you're quoting from others. Merging it with your own text like this makes it really difficult to parse what you're saying and what is things you're picking up elsewhere.

 

[Audioave10]

Good ole LGR...

 

[68Olds]

Greenslade, have you downloaded your manual? Here's a link.
A7V600 FRONT.P65 (asus.com)

Page 2-9 explains the Del key is how you access BIOS on your board.

Driver Downloads...
A7V600 - Support (asus.com)

 

[MaxiPro800]

No dice C1... at least she's pretty.

Kinda late reply, but have you tried different RAM sticks? I remember ABIT boards of the 775 era (like my old IP35 Pro that I retired long time ago) were absurdly picky about what RAM they like.

 

[Greenslade]

That would be something to try, open the Device Manager and navigate to the "Mice & other Pointing Devices" section & delete everything under it.
The Win10 PC I'm on right now has two entries in that section. I got there using the arrow keys & hitting the Del key will delete an entry. Have your WinXP install disk handy.

Not an origanal i have the *Get into PC *the one Scotty put on here ,and a couple of the specialy upgraded iones from *Internet achive*Windows XP Professional SP3 x86

I was walking down the high street five Minutes down from where i live , and saw this PC was chuked out.It nearly killed me caring it back home.The ram and Hdd drive have been takrn out it is a shame the HDD is not in there though.:Every things else incluceding the flopy druve are in there ,Hopefully i will be able to use the ide cables.
It has a Pentium 4 in it.
*IS IT SAFE FOR ME TO TRY THE PSU?
I don,t want to blow the place up.
If the HDD it might have been been the answer to the moise not working in my other PC.If i can get the other PC,s mouse working i will put the Floppy brive in there.
The motherboard seems to be HP. Theres not a lot you can do with a Hp motherboard with the preprioty stuff on them.

 

[MachineLearning]

Kinda late reply, but have you tried different RAM sticks? I remember ABIT boards of the 775 era (like my old IP35 Pro that I retired long time ago) were absurdly picky about what RAM they like.

Yep - tried Tracer 512MB sticks, Ballistix 1GB SS and DS, PNY & G.Skill 2GB sticks, all of them in all 4 slots. My IP35 Pro XE is also quite picky about RAM slots as you say I still appreciate the advice.

 

[The red spirit]

*IS IT SAFE FOR ME TO TRY THE PSU?
I don,t want to blow the place up.

wtf? I don't know about PC but it looks like you already had some kitchen accident there.

 

[Greenslade]

wtf? I don't know about PC but it looks like you already had some kitchen accident there.

My question was about the PSU.
OK the cooker needs cleaning ,if thats what your on about ,thats nothing.Besides that no one every comes in here.

 

[Mr.Scott]

it seems likr a lot of people have the same problem as me

xp-sp3 - USB and PS2 mouse/keyboard won't work​

Keyboards and mice work in BIOS or booting from something else. I have reset the BIOS, run virus scans through HirensCD, enabled USB and PS2 settings in BIOS, safe mode, last good configuration, et al.
Is there a tool so that I can edit the device manager's settings? I am betting if I could disable or delete the keyboard and mouse, it would reload them on next boot.
Or something else? Replace the drivers for the standard keyboard and mouse? If so, what files? I have access to xp machines that work well.
At least my Keyboard works . I do have sp3
someone else said this
if the issue is on a desktop, then usb mouse connectivity may be secondaray to the motherboards primary ps2 mouse and keyboard connections.
I will sei the Pc up again and try to get into the bios.

I never have any problems, and I have XP running on all platforms down to slot processors.

 

[Greenslade]

Greenslade, have you downloaded your manual? Here's a link.
A7V600 FRONT.P65 (asus.com)

Page 2-9 explains the Del key is how you access BIOS on your board.

Driver Downloads...
A7V600 - Support (asus.com)

Thanks once again for help. The driver downloads said try another one.O will get the manual downloaded ,just have to make room for the printer,as the space was used to try the PC out.Did you see the PC i found ,it is a shame the HDD was not in there as i could have put it in the other PC as a seconed drive ,with all thouse ide cables in that PC ,And wiped the drive and put xp in that secend drive.oh well that was not to be. ,

I never have any problems, and I have XP running on all platforms down to slot processors.

It seems a lot of people do have the problem i have with the mouse not working.
And some saying neither work,or others saying the Keyboard does not work.They work fine in both of my Dells.Do yiu use PS2 Keyboard and mouse.?And what motherboard are you useing.?You have been very lucky Scotty

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

My question was about the PSU.
OK the cooker needs cleaning ,if thats what your on about ,thats nothing.Besides that no one every comes in here.

PSUs in such machines are usually decent, but capacitors could be in sorry state. Best to open and show pics of the inside of PSU.

 

[Audioave10]

Another Fujitsu KB 4700 keyboard (the second one). This one was damaged from shipping but I was able to fix it. Works well
with the basic 5-Pin DIN to PS2 adapter.

 

[Greenslade]

PSUs in such machines are usually decent, but capacitors could be in sorry state. Best to open and show pics of the inside of PSU.

I have tried it light in the case fan spinIng in the PSU ,CPU fan spining. Four or five beeps on the case.Of course there is no Ram or HDDI am going to get this

This is the one Phil recomeneds in his video about alturnative drives for Retro PC,s.
3.5" Drive 40 Pin Serial ATA SATA to PATA IDE Card Adapter Converter

 

[68Olds]

The beep codes are probably for "Missing Ram".

 

[Greenslade]

Not an origanal i have the *Get into PC *the one Scotty put on here ,and a couple of the special upgraded iones from *Internet Archive *Windows XP Professional SP3 x86
I was walking down the high street and saw a PC thrown out.It nearly killed me caring it back home.The Ram and Hdd drive have been taken out it is a shame the HDD is not in there though.: Every things else including the floppy drive are in there ,Hopefully i will be able to use the ide cables.It has a Pentium 4 in it.*
If it had the HDD it might have been been the answer to the mouse not working in my other PC.If i can get the other PC,s mouse working i will put the Floppy Drive in there.
The motherboard is HP. Theres not a lot you can do with a Hp motherboard with the Proprietary: stuff on them.see 528. I see it is a HP Compaq the PSU is Compaq 240W PSU Power Supply 38437-001 PDP123P good for a back up PSU.

The beep codes are probably for "Missing Ram".

You are properly right there,I think it was 5 i will check on Hp site.This opens up a lot prospects ,The case has no side panal.If it is working i can put it in another case as my first build.

 

[Mr.Scott]

It seems a lot of people do have the problem i have with the mouse not working.
And some saying neither work,or others saying the Keyboard does not work.They work fine in both of my Dells.Do yiu use PS2 Keyboard and mouse.?And what motherboard are you useing.?You have been very lucky Scotty

PS2 peripherals are a requirement on the old platforms.
I recommend you find them. For everything you seem work on, it will make your life easier.