Ive had anti-blue light coating on my glasses for the past 5 years and I can't stand not to have it. My coating does give very a much warmer tint but its so much easier on the eyes, especially on a snowy bright day.
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Check your monitor for PWM backlighting. That can cause those issues. Tftcentral is a good source for information.Hi there,
Did you find any solution to your problem or have you considered going to an eye doctor? I am having similar problem as you. I think maybe I spent so much time looking at screen from ages 5-30 that I must have damaged something, because take for example the Ars Technica news site, light mode or dark mode, I will literally read any article for just 3 minutes, and look away, and I will be "blinking lines" in vision, its very frustrating...
Any advice or anything you have learned from your journey would be welcome. I tried Gunnar Computer glasses, it does help some, but doesn't fix the Ars Technica problem.
I try to take lots of breaks and go outside. I also try to eat more healthy food, like carrots and such. I also tried an "eye supplement" once, not sure if it helped or not really, not really I guess, but its hard to measure stuff like that.
I read you are supposed to look at something far away for 15 minutes every hour you stare at the PC. so a 15 minute break every hour. This does help me some, but again does not fix my Ars Technica problem.
Also led bulbs with no PWM controllers and high CRI.I had to help someone with migraines on this issue yesterday
10 year old LCD's with TN panels, what a surprise they're terrible on the eyes and CCFL globes above
warmer coloured LED's in, and a new high refresh rate LCD on the way with proper low blue light options on the way
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Can you use the gaming glasses as sunglasses?I have been using gaming glasses for the past 5 years and now I can't use the computer for more than 15 minutes without them.
With gaming glasses like the Gunnar I usually play game like 8 hours straight without feeling eyestrain.
Dark mode only help a little, not as much as those gaming glasses.
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Can you use the gaming glasses as sunglasses?
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You can, but they filter different light.Can you use the gaming glasses as sunglasses?
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You can, but they filter different light.
Also blue light does squat for comfort, blue light only messes a bit with telling your brain it's not yet time to go to sleep. If the brightness is too high, the eyes will hurt just the same with a blue light/computer glasses in place.
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It depends on whether you have the monitor set up correctly. Many monitors are set way above 6500K out of the box, giving them a strong bluish tint/cool aspect.Not in my experience, I can play game comfortably for 10 hours with gaming glasses but I get tired eyes after 15 min without. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to blue light.
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LED lamps probably don't have flicker, or not much, but don't take it for granted. Test it with a camera or a stroboscope disc or some other means.I had to help someone with migraines on this issue yesterday
10 year old LCD's with TN panels, what a surprise they're terrible on the eyes and CCFL globes above
warmer coloured LED's in, and a new high refresh rate LCD on the way with proper low blue light options on the way
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Yeah, I don't think he understands how it works. He seems to assume all is fine because he picked a high-refresh monitor.LED lamps probably don't have flicker, or not much, but don't take it for granted. Test it with a camera or a stroboscope disc or some other means.
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Does CRI really matter? Poor CRI in LED light sources is because their spectrum contains too little red light, that's clearly bad for colour reproduction but can it hurt the eyes?Also led bulbs with no PWM controllers and high CRI.
Right but I was specifically commenting on room lighting - he mentioned "CCFL globes above" and "warmer coloured LED's in". (In this case, it's CFL, compact fluorescent lamp, not cold cathode fluorescent lamp).Yeah, I don't think he understands how it works. He seems to assume all is fine because he picked a high-refresh monitor.
As you can see from the many comments in this thread, this is not an universal good advice. If a black theme is good for you - can I assume that you're using your PC or phone in a dark room? How dark? Lack of total light makes focusing harder. But I'm aware that there are different shades of dark.Black background ftw.
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lol, blue light setting in windows or monitor and all set up. no need for glasses, lenses, or vr headset..Dark mode or blue light glasses thing.
just dim brightness to comfort mode if it's not very bright in ambient place. also, you can use blue light filter in windows or any modern monitor. that fancy "dark mode" is pretty eye-hurt too, especially if used not in the night and on pc. just my personal preferences. i hate ambient or desk light, it gives a lot of color distortion. just for reading, it's ok, but involve any video or picture, no, thanks.I found my screen hurt my eyes when I was browsing the website for a long time. I also found the white background that it hurts my eyes too. Could you recommend any lamp for avoiding these issue?
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Some people may be more sensitive to very short wavelength blue light, which is abundant in white LED light. Blue light setting can reduce that somewhat but turning off blue pixels completely would result in pure yellow/orange background, which would be unbearable. Like this. Now i don't have first hand experience with glasses but they can potentially filter out just that 380- to 400-nanometer blue.lol, blue light setting in windows or monitor and all set up. no need for glasses, lenses, or vr headset..![]()
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Shame this forum doesn't have a dark mode.I was lucky to pick up a CRT that supported 100Hz @ 1024x768 my eyes thanked me for it
as to the Ops case well there is always dark mode in browsers now most chromium based ones atleast support it not to sure about FF, mine (Vivaldi) has several settings to try that do really well for eye strain relief looks like this
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easy on the eyes
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That’s not true, blue light filters are designed to reduce strain on the eyes, it’s exactly the opposite of what you’re saying.You can, but they filter different light.
Also blue light does squat for comfort, blue light only messes a bit with telling your brain it's not yet time to go to sleep. If the brightness is too high, the eyes will hurt just the same with a blue light/computer glasses in place.
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And when you "roll" with the flight attendants do you take them off ?I actually do, yeah I fly as commercial pilot with my gaming glasses, we are not allowed to use sunglasses for take off/ landing
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Typically the closer the lighting is to actual sunlight spectrum the better. Some people are more sensitive to this than others.Does CRI really matter? Poor CRI in LED light sources is because their spectrum contains too little red light, that's clearly bad for colour reproduction but can it hurt the eyes?
Right but I was specifically commenting on room lighting - he mentioned "CCFL globes above" and "warmer coloured LED's in". (In this case, it's CFL, compact fluorescent lamp, not cold cathode fluorescent lamp).
As you can see from the many comments in this thread, this is not an universal good advice. If a black theme is good for you - can I assume that you're using your PC or phone in a dark room? How dark? Lack of total light makes focusing harder. But I'm aware that there are different shades of dark.
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The only thing blue light does is trick your brain into thinking it's broad daylight (notice how the rising or setting sun is reddish? our brains noticed that, too). I have not found a single reputable article saying blue light induces discomfort. In fact, iirc, the human eye has fewer cones that read blue light than it does for red and green, so blue is probably the least probable to cause discomfort.That’s not true, blue light filters are designed to reduce strain on the eyes, it’s exactly the opposite of what you’re saying.
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On top of that, even OLED will flicker when using BFI. It's usually imperceptible, but it's possible some are more sensitive than other. So if you're feeling eye strain watching an OLED, check brightness and then check BFI mode.The first thing to check before buying any monitor/TV(almost all TV's uses PWM) is if
it uses PWM for backlight dimming, PWM can cause eye strain, nausea and headaches.
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I don’t need articles to tell me that bright light is bad for the eyes, every kid knows that. Blue light is the brightest light, it’s harmful, same reason why there is a dark mode. If I wanted I could easily find articles about it too, it’s just a waste of time for something this obvious. I know it in my own experience and I’ve read about it too, not that it was ever needed because I know this since i was a child. “Don’t look into the sun.”The only thing blue light does is trick your brain into thinking it's broad daylight (notice how the rising or setting sun is reddish? our brains noticed that, too). I have not found a single reputable article saying blue light induces discomfort. In fact, iirc, the human eye has fewer cones that read blue light than it does for red and green, so blue is probably the least probable to cause discomfort.
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Ah, you just know, the irrefutable argument. And why is blue the brightest light? Why not violet?I don’t need articles to tell me that bright light is bad for the eyes, every kid knows that. Blue light is the brightest light, it’s harmful, same reason why there is a dark mode. If I wanted I could easily find articles about it too, it’s just a waste of time for something this obvious. I know it in my own experience and I’ve read about it too, not that it was ever needed because I know this since i was a child. “Don’t look into the sun.”
Another example of through the roof brightness. SDR content should look no brighter on a HDR monitor than it does on a SDR one.the front page is eye searing on a decent HDR Monitor ....