ASUS Announces New AMD X670E Motherboards at Canadian National Expo

[kapone32]

Hi,
Yeah asus went senile on mother board prices
Probably have my last asus boards atm.

Especially considering how cheap you have to sell AM4 boards just to move them.

 

[Chaitanya]

So as usual too many castrations in terms of features. I would like to see retail prices but given its Shitsus fully expecting them to be stupidly expensive.

For example here is back IO of Gigabytes entry level X670 offering featuring 20Gbps Type-C port.

 

[TheLostSwede]

@TheLostSwede the only thing I want to know about future Asus motherboards is if they will come with BIOS level forced software installs on clean installs of OS's. if my memory serves me correctly they did this in the past? I can't quite remember.

It's supposedly something you can disable in the UEFI now.

So does this mean that if I go to the Ex this year I will be abl[e to buy one? I wonder which pavilion they are in too. The Ex is absolutely huge.

Click the source link on the main site.

AM5 platform openers will be expensive. If anyone hopes for a 150 dollar board and a 200 dollar CPU to go along with it, sheesh.... I've heard there are good deals for AM4 hardware for you.

The good part - connectivity on AM5 leapfrogs current LGA1700, so that's cool

There will be sub $150 B650 boards.

 

[randomUser]

"Canadian National Expo"

Since when did ASUS become a national Canada company?

 

[john_]

You can get high end X570 boards that have top 2 slots going to to the CPU. Even some B450 boards had that too. It's the reason I will always rank the Asus Strix B450-E over the B550-F.

And that's why I chose to never give money for an x570. I was refusing to pay over $200 for a feature that I could find in older boards costing less than $100.

 

[Dirt Chip]

There will be sub $150 B650 boards.

When?
Maybe next year..

 

[TheDeeGee]

Do they ship with a smoke detector?

 

[john_]

Do they ship with a smoke detector?

Only the Intel models.

 

[dj-electric]

There will be sub $150 B650 boards.

Yeah, kinda why I said "openers".

 

[TheLostSwede]

When?
Maybe next year..

Supposedly as early as October.

Yeah, kinda why I said "openers".

You got cheaper option on Intel with comparable features?

 

[dj-electric]

You got cheaper option on Intel with comparable features?

That... has nothing to do with what I said. Its throwing the argument in a ring with Intel. All I stated is that AM5 openers will be relatively pricey. That's all.

 

[Assimilator]

You got cheaper option on Intel with comparable features?

Doesn't mean that we as consumers should accept shit. By that argument we should be happy with Intel's CPUs, right?

 

[tussinman]

When?
Maybe next year..

All the rumors are pointing towards 3 to 4 weeks after launch (so like mid October to early November range).

Almost all of the manufacturer have already announced there full B lineup so this shouldn't be surprising (next year for B boards was never a thing)

 

[TheLostSwede]

That... has nothing to do with what I said. Its throwing the argument in a ring with Intel. All I stated is that AM5 openers will be relatively pricey. That's all.

Well, people will buy AMD or Intel, so obviously it's a valid question. Not trying to start an argument, simply asking a question.

Doesn't mean that we as consumers should accept shit. By that argument we should be happy with Intel's CPUs, right?

Nope, not at all. It was simply a question.
Everything is getting more expensive, motherboards are at least to a degree getting more expensive because they are becoming more complex to manufacture, but we're obviously getting a lot more blingy and useless features for a large swath of PC users, because someone figured that RGB was important...

 

[Shou Miko]

Why a TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WiFi with 4 sata ports.....

Is the X670 gonna be a so bad no one is gonna use it so it will become the new budget chipset instead of the B650?

 

[dj-electric]

Why a TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WiFi with 4 sata ports.....

SATA connectors are sort of... dying in the consumer space. The move to 4 ports as standard has already began as a trend on Z690 and will probably continue into more boards, as the use of SATA drives keeps shrinking rapidly among the vast population of users.

 

[Shou Miko]

SATA connectors are sort of... dying in the consumer space. The move to 4 ports as standard has already began as a trend on Z690 and will probably continue into more boards, as the use of SATA drives keeps shrinking rapidly among the vast population of users.

That's true but I was more kinda shocked that even the TUF uses a X670E chipset and not the X670-nonE or what you will call it like X670-none

Because if all the X670 chipsets will be on budget and bad board then why even release that chipset and not just stick with the B650

 

[dj-electric]

Because if all the X670 chipsets will be on budget and bad board then why even release that chipset and not just stick with the B650

TBH, I will be surprised if more than a few B650 or X670 boards above 150 or 200 dollars will be any "bad". These things are quite well built. This would mostly be the question of just decent vs really good.

Every motherboard generation usually comes with 2-3 very high value offerings for people who want certain features since that's how segmentation works along the stack of consumer options in this space.

Look out for boards like GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX or MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as those kinds of boards typically represent the "powerful mid range" and their price tag should match that description. In terms of connectivity and BoM, they are similar to some of what of the higher end X570 boards used to offer, along with all the flashy new AM5 stuff

 

[Shou Miko]

TBH, I will be surprised if more than a few B650 or X670 boards above 150 or 200 dollars will be any "bad". These things are quite well built. This would mostly be the question of just decent vs really good.

Every motherboard generation usually comes with 2-3 very high value offerings for people who want certain features since that's how segmentation works along the stack of consumer options in this space.

Look out for boards like GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX or MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as those kinds of boards typically represent the "powerful mid range" and their price tag should match that description. In terms of connectivity and BoM, they are similar to some of what of the higher end X570 boards used to offer, along with all the flashy new AM5 stuff

Well if MSI manage to make a AM5 board like the Z690-A with and without WiFi and call it like MSI X670-A or something I don't care about attached I/O shield and so on even it's a nice touch I rather want a solid good board.

MSI really nailed the Z690-A making 4 skus with and without wifi and DDR4 or DDR5 so do this for the X670 would be awesome.

 

[Dirt Chip]

SATA connectors are sort of... dying in the consumer space. The move to 4 ports as standard has already began as a trend on Z690 and will probably continue into more boards, as the use of SATA drives keeps shrinking rapidly among the vast population of users.

Not quite true.
As the 'gamer' community grow so on the 'contant creation' community and thay need that sata ports for data storing on HDD.
You can always add pci-e to sata ports but but 6 nativ sata should be minimum in any xxxZ or XxxxE motherboard.

 

[dj-electric]

Not quite true.

It is absolutely true, and the reason why Seagate and WD gradually shut down consumer grade manufecturing lines. The gamer community grow, and the price and availability of higher capacity M.2 drives changes accordingly.
Ask any local PC store how HDD sales for the consumer space is going. This stuff is on a sharp decline.
I can tell you that i've worked at a large retail store chain in 2015 and we have already seen the sharp decline in numbers then, and the stronghold of SSD-exclusive gaming machines. Today the situation is far more M.2 SSD storage tuned. Ask the motherboard and CPU manufecturers why they have decided to arm the new boards with 4-5 M.2 ports.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Why a TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WiFi with 4 sata ports.....

Is the X670 gonna be a so bad no one is gonna use it so it will become the new budget chipset instead of the B650?

Because AMD is now sharing PCIe lanes with SATA interfaces, so Asus bet on PCIe.
See:

AMD Zen 4 & Socket AM5 Explained: PCIe Lanes, Chipsets, Connectivity

There has been a fair bit of confusion about AMD's upcoming AM5 platform when it comes to connectivity and we're going to break things down and explain what the difference is between the B650 and X670 boards. We're also going to cover the processor connectivity, since that's an integral part of...

www.techpowerup.com

Also, the only difference between the E and non E skuts is PCIe 5.0 support for the x16 slot.

TBH, I will be surprised if more than a few B650 or X670 boards above 150 or 200 dollars will be any "bad". These things are quite well built. This would mostly be the question of just decent vs really good.

That's spot on I'd say. It really comes down to what extra features you want. There's the odd strange product in this segment though.

Every motherboard generation usually comes with 2-3 very high value offerings for people who want certain features since that's how segmentation works along the stack of consumer options in this space.

What we'll get this time around though, are some comparably high-end B650E boards that will be priced higher or at least similar to high-end X670E boards.

Look out for boards like GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX or MSI PRO X670-P WIFI as those kinds of boards typically represent the "powerful mid range" and their price tag should match that description. In terms of connectivity and BoM, they are similar to some of what of the higher end X570 boards used to offer, along with all the flashy new AM5 stuff

The Elite should be sub $300 if things goes according to what the plan was around Computex. It has a few weak spots though, which might even make similarly priced B650E boards more tempting.

 

[Animalpak]

Also I am always amazed and happy with how they build and make them, as if they were to last at least 10 years of service, they are released every 2 years almost annually and I wonder all this study they do to make them resistant and performing and are changed every 2 years, because they have to keep up with the CPUs.

What a waste.

 

[Shou Miko]

Because AMD is now sharing PCIe lanes with SATA interfaces, so Asus bet on PCIe.
See:

AMD Zen 4 & Socket AM5 Explained: PCIe Lanes, Chipsets, Connectivity

There has been a fair bit of confusion about AMD's upcoming AM5 platform when it comes to connectivity and we're going to break things down and explain what the difference is between the B650 and X670 boards. We're also going to cover the processor connectivity, since that's an integral part of...

www.techpowerup.com

Also, the only difference between the E and non E skuts is PCIe 5.0 support for the x16 slot.

Who needs PCI-E 5.0 as of now? Future GPU's might be able to handle it and support but backward compatibility to 4.0 might not be bad same for this generation 4.0 worked in 3.0 and not a lot of performance was lost.

Personally I don't really give a hick about PCI-E 5.0 NVME SSD's and their 10 or 12GB/s not like my games will start or run quicker like CSGO one click your the first in game it doesn't work like that

 

[Ravenmaster]

Lets hope these ones have their chips the right way around so they don't burst into flames