*Pop* goes the side panel (i.e. shattered tempered glass side panels)

[Frick]

It's not tricky, you just have to be a competent designer.

And the person assembling the thing has to be competent as well, or just not have a bad day.

Where do you think "premium" products get their tempered glass from? You think they manufacture it themselves? No.

The issue is production and design related, the autocad "designer" could alleviate most of the risk of shattering/damage by making a couple of inspired changes to the design, at little to no additional material or manufacturing costs.

Again, the issue with this, and most other "inherent problems" is bad design.

So much this. Attaching glass panes to any surface has been a solved problem for a really long time.

 

[dgianstefani]

And before you start talking about how "premium" products cost more to design, maybe that's true, but it's the budget, economies of scale cases that bring in the dosh for OEMs and brands. Who cares about a few thousand "premium" cases sold annually, when the same OEM sells hundreds of thousands of the cheaper cases? In this way, it makes sense for all tiers of products to be well designed, as margins/scale make up for it anyway.

And the person assembling the thing has to be competent as well, or just not have a bad day.


So much this. Attaching glass panes to any surface has been a solved problem for a really long time.

So your stance is that it's just too hard for OEMs to sort out their supply, design, manufacturing and logistics? They shouldn't exist then, and the only reason they do is because the uninformed support the incompetent with their purchasing power. Our job as reviewers is to raise awareness of bad practice, and force OEMs to get their s**t together or go out of business. As it should be.

 

[xtreemchaos]

done it myself, i look at it as a right of passage sorta thingy its easyer on the brain that way .

 

[bug]

Where do you think "premium" products get their tempered glass from? You think they manufacture it themselves? No.

The issue is production and design related, the autocad "designer" could alleviate most of the risk of shattering/damage by making a couple of inspired changes to the design, at little to no additional material or manufacturing costs.

Again, the issue with this, and most other "inherent problems" is bad design.

Bad design describes probably 80% of the stuff we buy today. People may say otherwise, but they just buy as cheap as possible. Straight from Alibaba, with 0 warranty many times.

 

[Vario]

Any time I move my case, or even turn it on its side, I take the glass panel off. I have a cardboard box the same dimensions so I slide it in there until I'm done. If they sold the O11 Air Mini with all metal sides, I would have bought it. I have a spare metal panel from the opposite side (because they shipped it with a defective metal side panel and sent me a replacement) but it doesn't fit the window side.

 

[dgianstefani]

Bad design describes probably 80% of the stuff we buy today. People may say otherwise, but they just buy as cheap as possible. Straight from Alibaba, with 0 warranty many times.

So they should reap what they sow. The rest of us get on with life without constant crisis.

 

[Arco]

Ouch, I'm not a looks guy so I'm going with no glass for my case. How bad was it to pick up?

 

[freeagent]

I love my case, it’s got two glass panels, so can’t just flop the case down to work on it like normal. You can once you pull the glass off though.

 

[Audioave10]

I liked the way the Hiper Anubis was done. All metal with glass and covered with a black mesh that protects the glass (and also
gives it a shaded look).

 

[Arco]

I love my case, it’s got two glass panels, so can’t just flop the case down to work on it like normal. You can once you pull the glass off though.

Going for almost the same case. Just the full-scale size.

I liked the way the Hiper Anubis was done. All metal with glass and covered with a black mesh that protects the glass (and also
gives it a shaded look).

Microwave, jokes aside that looks pretty good.

 

[Frick]

So your stance is that it's just too hard for OEMs to sort out their supply, design, manufacturing and logistics? They shouldn't exist then, and the only reason they do is because the uninformed support the incompetent with their purchasing power. Our job as reviewers is to raise awareness of bad practice, and force OEMs to get their s**t together or go out of business. As it should be.

I'm saying the process is more "delicate" than akrylics. A person doing something wrong in assembly can mean cracked windows a few months down the line. Note how I agreed that it's not hard. It isn't. But it requires doing things properly (moreso than with acrylic/plastics), and shaving costs wherever possible can mean broken windows. And yes, that is the point of reviews and forum reports.

 

[dgianstefani]

Well said.

 

[Vayra86]

There is a downside to placing your unit on your desk. It can be tiped over or it might fall if you live in an active seismic zone. I have yet to figure out a mount that will secure it on my desk while making it easy to remove when i need to clean or tinker with it.

Just attach some tie rips to your desk and through the case bottom holes? Out of sight, secure as it gets, and will even take some smaller rumble on the chin as there is some flexibility.

 

[bonehead123]

Both glass-topped computer desks & putting a computer on the floor = "stupid is as stupid does" IMHO...

As for TG side panels, IMHO they are ok IF, and only IF:

1) they are thick enough to be durable (4-6mm with smooth tapered edges), and
2) the method of attaching them to the case frame is designed correctly, to minimize vibrations, allow for airflow, and does not compromise the integrity of the glass itself...

I've seen & owned cases that had all of the above (TT900, Air740/540 and a few others), and other cases that had NONE of these factors, which I hated & quickly sold off or donated...

But as usual, YMMV & you should get whatever suits your tastes and usage requirements, and not gripe about those cases that don't

 

[ShiBDiB]

The tragedy of the tempered glass desks. One probably shouldn't put heavy objects on a pane of glass.

I don't understand the appeal... Ignoring the chance that it explodes and cuts your leg off, has anyone successfully kept a glass desk clean?

 

[Arco]

Both glass-topped computer desks & putting a computer on the floor = "stupid is as stupid does" IMHO...

As for TG side panels, IMHO they are ok IF, and only IF:

1) they are thick enough to be durable (4-6mm with smooth tapered edges), and
2) the method of attaching them to the case frame is designed correctly, to minimize vibrations, allow for airflow, and does not compromise the integrity of the glass itself...

I've seen & owned cases that had all of the above (TT900, Air740/540 and a few others), and other cases that had NONE of these factors, which I hated & quickly sold off or donated...

But as usual, YMMV & you should get whatever suits your tastes and usage requirements, and not gripe about those cases that don't

Make sure you never clean your pc too!

 

[dgianstefani]

Both glass-topped computer desks & putting a computer on the floor = "stupid is as stupid does" IMHO...

As for TG side panels, IMHO they are ok IF, and only IF:

1) they are thick enough to be durable (4-6mm with smooth tapered edges), and
2) the method of attaching them to the case frame is designed correctly, to minimize vibrations, allow for airflow, and does not compromise the integrity of the glass itself...

I've seen & owned cases that had all of the above (TT900, Air740/540 and a few others), and other cases that had NONE of these factors, which I hated & quickly sold off or donated...

But as usual, YMMV & you should get whatever suits your tastes and usage requirements, and not gripe about those cases that don't

The thickness is borderline irrelevant. An inch thick pane of tempered glass will shatter if struck in the same weak points, with the same force, as a 5mm thick panel. The issue is that the glass does not have omni directional strength, and is vulnerable to focused force at the Y and Z plane. Thickness only increases number of laminate layers in some cases, so the outer layer could shatter etc.

 

[80251]

Maybe they could use bullet proof glass instead of tempered glass?

 

[Vayra86]

I don't understand the appeal... Ignoring the chance that it explodes and cuts your leg off, has anyone successfully kept a glass desk clean?

Let alone place bare arms on it. Its horrible, you'll stick to the glass in no time

 

[A Computer Guy]

Maybe they could use bullet proof glass instead of tempered glass?

Or even glass like those used for windshields so the shards won't explode everywhere.

 

[bug]

Or even glass like those used for windshields so the shards won't explode everywhere.

Then you can break them on purpose to show off your pattern on reddit

 

[Arco]

Linus Drop Tips here. Today we will be testing (Abusing) side panels.

 

[AsRock]

The tragedy of the tempered glass desks. One probably shouldn't put heavy objects on a pane of glass.

Stupid is, Stupid does

 

[MarsM4N]

If you read through the comments the problem was bad handling & the wrong flooring. Ceramic tiles are "harder" than glass, that's why it broke.
When getting it off place it on some clothers or something else soft. Watch out for the edges, they are very sensitive.

Personally not a fan of glas side panels. When putting it under the table or on the "wrong side" of the table I can't see it anyways.
And the most dumb part, you can't even order metal side panels optionally, lol.

The tragedy of the tempered glass desks. One probably shouldn't put heavy objects on a pane of glass.

The problem is the thickness of the glas panels on those desks. I had a diner table back in the days with a super thick glas, dropped a full glas bottle on it.
It was really loud and I was scared it would completely shatter, but there was only a thumb sized pice chipped off around the edge.

I wouldn't buy another glas table, ever. Needs too much cleaning and in the cold days it's freezing your arms.

 

[nomdeplume]

My case has a slightly inset acrylic side panel protected by no less than 2" of aluminum panel on any side. This feature was highly undesired at the time of purchase but they do make inspecting the state of fans and cpu cooler heatsink as simple as a sidewards glance.

Protective plastic has never come off the outside. I'm sure the inside has scratches just from dust particles passing over it. A perfect record of never cleaning it once in multiple years of daily use is highly acceptable to me. Glass