EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

[Bomby569]

No company is perfect. Mistakes and defects WILL happen. Always, no matter what is being made. What sets EVGA apart from the rest is their exceptional RMA process, which is the most painless I've ever dealt with, and I've dealt with everyone at one point or another. Par for the course when you run a PC shop.

Come to the EU. Something breaks, i ship it back to the store that sold me, no costs to me either way, they have 30 days to fix it, or give me my money back, 2 years of peace of mind. I don't even care what is the brand, not my issue. All warranties are amazing here, i have problems with no one.

The thing i want to avoid is having to stay weeks without my stuff, the less it breaks the best. All RMA's are equally good.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Come to the EU. Something breaks, i ship it back to the store that sold me, no costs to me either way, they have 30 days to fix it, or give me my money back, 2 years of peace of mind. I don't even care what is the brand, not my issue. All warranties are amazing here, i have problems with no one.

I'll grant you that, you have it good in that area of things. However, most of the world doesn't have that and there is much to be said about quality of build and manufacturer support.

 

[Bomby569]

I'll grant you that, you have it good in that area of things. However, most of the world doesn't have that and there is much to be said about quality of build and manufacturer support.

Quality of build is like you said they all make some of the most shitty products one time or another, they all make crap if you go for the very low end. But sure if you need them it's best to have someone that cares like EVGA then someone that couldn't care less like.... most.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Quality of build is like you said they all make some of the most shitty products one time or another

No, that is not what I said. I said mistakes and defects happen. That's very different from "they all make some of the most shitty products one time or another". Please don't misunderstand me.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Hmm.....

Conversation with his Intel contact:
"(Contact) : That's not true, we're in this for the long haul, we're one of the few companies that can sink hundreds of millions of dollars into something and lose money on it or take no margin for years while we establish ourselves ...
I was actually talking to EVGA about this...
EVGA was asking me, some of its staff, about where's Intel right now with ARC, which I thought was a great sign because I hope there's interest there.. because if Intel sticks with this, it could be the start of another 20 year GPU partnership..."

 

[Wasteland]

I think we just found out why EVGA ditched Nvidia.

4080 at $899. Their inventory of old 3080 3090 and 3090 Ti values are going to get shellacked.

This isn't Nvidia's fault really. EVGA just had too many cards, they probably wanted Nvidia to delay launch.

JayZ really screwed all those people he told to go out and buy last gen.

More like $1200 for the 4080 16 GB. The $899 version looks to be what we would normally consider a 4070 or 4060 Ti, just with 80 branding attached. The announced pricing scheme for 4000-series SKUs pretty clearly indicates that NVIDIA wants consumers to buy stockpiled Ampere cards for a long time to come. It doesn't even look like Lovelace's performance will blow anyone away, given how heavily NVIDIA's leaning on apples-to-oranges DLSS comparisons in its marketing slides. We'll see.

I'm not a huge fan of JayZ; like most youtubers, he puts out way too many videos with vague clickbait titles, but he seems to have gotten this prediction right. The safer and more conventional call was to say that the 40-series launch would totally destroy the value of the higher end 30-series cards, and up until today I agreed with that logic. Seems foolish in retrospect; never bet against NVIDIA raising prices.

 

[cvaldes]

Quality of build is like you said they all make some of the most shitty products one time or another, they all make crap if you go for the very low end. But sure if you need them it's best to have someone that cares like EVGA then someone that couldn't care less like.... most.

This isn't specific to AIB graphics cards manufacturers or just the PC hardware world. It applies to anyone who sells any product or service.

Everyone makes mistakes. It's how you react when things go wrong. Remember that these are all relationships whether it be a supplier-partner relationship (like NVIDIA-EVGA) or a merchant-customer relationship (which the EVGA situation also was). It's the same with interpersonal relationships.

No one is perfect so if you're going to have a relationship with someone, it might be worth it to select someone who cares about fixing problems.

 

[RandallFlagg]

More like $1200 for the 4080 16 GB. The $899 version looks to be what we would normally consider a 4070 or 4060 Ti, just with 80 branding attached. The announced pricing scheme for 4000-series SKUs pretty clearly indicates that NVIDIA wants consumers to buy stockpiled Ampere cards for a long time to come. It doesn't even look like Lovelace's performance will blow anyone away, given how heavily NVIDIA's leaning on apples-to-oranges DLSS comparisons in its marketing slides. We'll see.

I'm not a huge fan of JayZ; like most youtubers, he puts out way too many videos with vague clickbait titles, but he seems to have gotten this prediction right. The safer and more conventional call was to say that the 40-series launch would totally destroy the value of the higher end 30-series cards, and up until today I agreed with that logic. Seems foolish in retrospect; never bet against NVIDIA raising prices.

He got what right? This guy?

July 12th, and I quote : "If you've been waiting for the right time to buy a graphics card, and you think that time is going to be when they launch 40 series, I've got news for you. Don't wait, buy your graphics card TODAY."

If you followed his advice, you just got got handed your arse to the tune of $450+.

At least he went back and re-named his video. However, a month after this, he started a rumor that the 4000 series wouldn't even launch for another year. So he's not exactly learning, or necessarily being honest at all.

Otherwise he's just a typical click bait youtuber for the low-brow know nothings. And most of the smaller tubers that called him out at the time got mobbed by the zombie masses that patronize this guy. He's not alone though, pretty much every well known channel is the same. This particular guy, is (or was) a shill for EVGA. That's where he got his 'info'.

3090s and Tis for $1299 - $1700 from his video :

This is today on release :

 

[chrcoluk]

There remains a possibility they are doing an amazon.

Earlier this year Amazon announced termination of their partnership with Visa and started paying people to stop using Visa on the Amazon store and a date where they would pull all support for paying with Visa cards. Unsurprisingly they came to a deal with Visa as Visa wouldnt want to lose the biggest store front in the world and the cancellation was pulled back a 180.

So I wouldnt be surprised if EVGA and Nvidia would come to a deal.

 

[lexluthermiester]

He got what right? This guy?

July 12th, and I quote : "If you've been waiting for the right time to buy a graphics card, and you think that time is going to be when they launch 40 series, I've got news for you. Don't wait, buy your graphics card TODAY."

If you followed his advice, you just got got handed your arse to the tune of $450+.

At least he went back and re-named his video. However, a month after this, he started a rumor that the 4000 series wouldn't even launch for another year. So he's not exactly learning, or necessarily being honest at all.

Otherwise he's just a typical click bait youtuber for the low-brow know nothings. And most of the smaller tubers that called him out at the time got mobbed by the zombie masses that patronize this guy. He's not alone though, pretty much every well known channel is the same. This particular guy, is (or was) a shill for EVGA. That's where he got his 'info'.

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3090s and Tis for $1299 - $1700 from his video :
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Oh, so you wish to continue the mud slinging and embarrassing yourself. Hey that's cool. It's most definitely amusing. But just an FYI there sparky, you are taking something someone was making a best guess on completely out context and trying to discredit them for no other reason than to win an argument. Do you know what that's called? I know what I call that...

There remains a possibility they are doing an amazon.

Earlier this year Amazon announced termination of their partnership with Visa and started paying people to stop using Visa on the Amazon store and a date where they would pull all support for paying with Visa cards. Unsurprisingly they came to a deal with Visa as Visa wouldnt want to lose the biggest store front in the world and the cancellation was pulled back a 180.

So I wouldnt be surprised if EVGA and Nvidia would come to a deal.

While that might seem logical, it's not likely in the case of EVGA.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Oh, so you wish to continue the mud slinging and embarrassing yourself. Hey that's cool. It's most definitely amusing. But just an FYI there sparky, you are taking something someone was making a best guess on completely out context and trying to discredit them for no other reason than to win an argument. Do you know what that's called? I know what I call that...

Actually dude, I wasn't responding to you. And I used facts, I have more about that guy too.

I know you don't want to hear them because you're not into facts, so just put a cork in it ok?

And you know what, your arrogant attitude and jaw flapping with zero info isn't worth my time. Welcome to my ignore list punk.

 

[erek]

Sorry if already posted, but

 

[lexluthermiester]

Actually dude, I wasn't responding to you.

News flash for you, this is PUBLIC forum. There is no such thing as a private conversion unless you take it to PM's.

And I used my personal opinion, I have more about that guy too.

Fixed that for you. And we're all very sure you have more poo to fling about.

I know you don't want to hear them because you're not into meritless opinions

Again fixed that for you.

so just put a cork in it ok?

How original.

And you know what, your arrogant attitude and jaw flapping with zero info isn't worth my time.

Oooo, name calling.

Welcome to my ignore list punk.

Yeah, that'll work...

Sorry if already posted, but

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I don't think anyone posted that yet.

 

[hat]

I fail to see what's wrong with criticizing someone with... *checks* 3.73 million subscribers on Youtube, for misguiding his followers with some very misguided advice. Especially when that person apparently has ties to big players in the industry. Where else have we heard such nonsense before? How about the "just buy it" article, or the infamous "the more you buy, the more you save" quote? Seems similar to me...

 

[lexluthermiester]

I fail to see what's wrong with criticizing someone with... *checks* 3.73 million subscribers on Youtube, for misguiding his followers with some very misguided advice.

There's a difference between criticism and mud-slinging. There's also a difference between opinions and facts.

Especially when that person apparently has ties to big players in the industry.

And who doesn't? ALL of the big techtubers have industry connections. How is this not understood? Hmm? But that doesn't mean they are obligated to kiss corporate asses. I could, for an example only, just as easily point out how much of a daft twat Steve Walton(Hardware Unboxed) is and how much of an elitist, out of touch, clueless AMD boot-licker he comes off as. I could do that with a reasonable level of credibility given everything that he has displayed for all to see both on his Youtube channel and over at TechSpot. I could lay into Linus at LTT the same way. However you don't see me doing that. Why? Because they positively contribute to the tech community in many ways.

Sooo... This thread is about EVGA parting ways with NVidia. It's not a JayzTwoCents bash fest...

 

[hat]

And who doesn't? ALL of the big techtubers have industry connections. How is this not understood? Hmm? But that doesn't mean they are obligated to kiss corporate asses. I could, for an example only, just as easily point out how much of a daft twat Steve Walton(Hardware Unboxed) is and how much of an elitist, out of touch, clueless AMD boot-licker he comes off as. I could do that with a reasonable level of credibility given everything that he has displayed for all to see both on his Youtube channel and over at TechSpot. I could lay into Linus at LTT the same way. However you don't see me doing that. Why? Because they positively contribute to the tech community in many ways.

That's sort of what I meant. In my eyes, all these big techtubers are after... wait for it... the money. It comes from their viewership, sure, but it also comes from, as you say, kissing corporate ass. One exception that I know of may be Gamer's Nexus, mostly because I vaguely remember some story about them getting cut off from someone because they didn't like their review, so they bought the products with their own money anyway to keep the reviews coming. Do note that I don't intend to bash Jay in particular, though I am not fond of the techtuber industry as a whole. I merely found your defense of Jay odd, given the comments that were being made by other users.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That's sort of what I meant. In my eyes, all these big techtubers are after... wait for it... the money.

Well yeah, that's their job. But that doesn't mean they can't be objective and impartial, even if they have their favorite brands.

but it also comes from, as you say, kissing corporate ass.

That's where we disagree. Many techtubers and review websites have proven that they will not bow to corporate pressures.

One exception that I know of may be Gamer's Nexus, mostly because I vaguely remember some story about them getting cut off from someone because they didn't like their review

That has happened to many.

Do note that I don't intend to bash Jay in particular, though I am not fond of the techtuber industry as a whole.

That's fair.

I merely found your defense of Jay odd, given the comments that were being made by other users.

There is an unfair amount of Jay-bashing that happens here at TPU. I really don't understand why, I watch his content frequently and can't complain about his ethics or information. I'm tired of seeing it because he doesn't deserve it. So yes I'm going to come to his defense whenever I see the poo-flingers start their shenanigans.

 

[Bomby569]

No, that is not what I said. I said mistakes and defects happen. That's very different from "they all make some of the most shitty products one time or another". Please don't misunderstand me.

The 1080 disaster was not a "mistake" or a "defect", was the result of a design choice. They also make cards with very small heatsinks for the card that it is, i know i got one of those. Is their aluminium premium or their plastic from premium sources?

But just an FYI there sparky, you are taking something someone was making a best guess on completely out context and trying to discredit them for no other reason than to win an argument.

You can't be defending that idiot on this one. Not that. Everyone called him out, even his own lap dogs on twitter and the YT comments.
The guy that was been doing this for so long, made a "best guess" no one agreed with, come on. That's not a guess, that's driving on the wrong side of the highway idiocy.
And he didn't even ever hide their EVGA "appreciation". EVGA was always very good at cultivating the influencers.

 

[Tomorrow]

And you know what, your arrogant attitude and jaw flapping with zero info isn't worth my time. Welcome to my ignore list punk.

He's been in my ignore list for a while. It seems like it was the right decision as im not the only one tired of arguing with a wall.

 

[zlobby]

19 pages and counting. This is the type of thread mods just love to work!

 

[Wirko]

19 pages and counting. This is the type of thread mods just love to work!

It wouldn't survive nearly that long if the article mentioned any specific country or part of the world. Well it does mention "North American market" but that's apparently innocent enough.

 

[dgianstefani]

He got what right? This guy?

July 12th, and I quote : "If you've been waiting for the right time to buy a graphics card, and you think that time is going to be when they launch 40 series, I've got news for you. Don't wait, buy your graphics card TODAY."

If you followed his advice, you just got got handed your arse to the tune of $450+.

At least he went back and re-named his video. However, a month after this, he started a rumor that the 4000 series wouldn't even launch for another year. So he's not exactly learning, or necessarily being honest at all.

Otherwise he's just a typical click bait youtuber for the low-brow know nothings. And most of the smaller tubers that called him out at the time got mobbed by the zombie masses that patronize this guy. He's not alone though, pretty much every well known channel is the same. This particular guy, is (or was) a shill for EVGA. That's where he got his 'info'.

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This is today on release :

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JayZ has always been a shill who isn't even particularly good at his main channel's focus - watercooling.

He talks a lot of crap and is unexplainably popular for some reason.

There's people who defend him, and yes, he occasionally puts out accurate, well rounded content, but as a huge techtuber his responsibility is to not make false claims, and if he does, to immediately retract them with a public announcement/apology. AFAIK he does not do this, and has consistently gotten things wrong over the years without taking back what was said. OK, so he maybe changes his tune in future videos, but that's irrelevant.

 

[TheDeeGee]

JayZ has always been a shill who isn't even particularly good at his main channel's focus - watercooling.

He talks a lot of crap and is unexplainably popular for some reason.

There's people who defend him, and yes, he occasionally puts out accurate, well rounded content, but as a huge techtuber his responsibility is to not make false claims, and if he does, to immediately retract them with a public announcement/apology. AFAIK he does not do this, and has consistently gotten things wrong over the years without taking back what was said. OK, so he maybe changes his tune in future videos, but that's irrelevant.

More like JayZ2BrainCells.

 

[gyik]

Chuck Norris is still mining ETH with EVGA 4090s.

 

[zlobby]

More like JayZ2BrainCells.

Spot on!

Chuck Norris is still mining ETH with EVGA 4090s.

Chuck Norris is the only one who can mine e-coins with pick axe and shovel!