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so i was right with "AMD locks 5800X3D Overclocking to not make Zen 4 look even worse."
 
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so i was right with "AMD locks 5800X3D Overclocking to not make Zen 4 look even worse."
Worse? How? It has a significant performance uplift over the previous gen while maintaining the same power envelope and thermals.
 
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Worse? How? It has a significant performance uplift while maintaining the same power envelope and thermals.
the 5800X3D wipes the floor with Zen 3 in every game.
Zen 4 just looks like to be either on par or just slightly better. (if we could get it unlocked and run it at 4.6-4.7 Ghz it would still be AMDs best gaming CPU after the 29th.)
 
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Faster than a 32 core 3970X in rendering, nice. As for 5800X3D, it's only good in gaming, while Zen4 is good at everything.
 

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the 5800X3D wipes the floor with Zen 3 in every game.
Zen 4 just looks like to be either on par or just slightly better. (if we could get it unlocked and run it at 4.6-4.7 Ghz it would still be AMDs best gaming CPU after the 29th.)

7950X is only slightly better in Final Fantasy 15.
In everything else it is much slower :D

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and those hot hot temperatures :D

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holy shit. 3d v-cache is the shit. can't for the zen 4 3d-vache next year. that thing is going to kick ass.

1080p at a very high refresh rate (for users of absolute monsters such as 6900XT and RTX 3090) is such a completely niche scenario I really don't understand why people are even talking about it.

3D V-cache is good for certain very specific tasks (ever heard of ASKAP/tConvolute OpenMP Gridding? what about OneDDN? Maybe Pennant? me neither) but that's about it. That's the reason Intel has abandoned Broadwell as if it never happened.

its also benefited 1440p gamers by a lot. gaming at 4k is stupid as piss.

i'd rather have higher frames and 1440p or 1080p.
 

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1080p at a very high refresh rate (for users of absolute monsters such as 6900XT and GeForce 3090) is such a completely niche scenario I really don't understand why people are even talking about it.

Because it is a CPU-bound scenario. At 2160p the bottleneck shifts and even with a potato CPU the results are as good.
 

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Because it is a CPU-bound scenario. At 2160p the bottleneck shifts and even with a potato CPU the results are as good.

I'm aware.

You are saying 3d Cache is dumb though. I don't want to game at 4k, and my next monitor is going to be a240hz 1440p. so 3d vcahce benefits me.

edit: sorry thought you were the other poster.
 
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To sum up.....7800X3D will be the new king....
And a huge thanks to AMD for the 5800X3D.
 

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the 5800X3D wipes the floor with Zen 3 in every game.
Zen 4 just looks like to be either on par or just slightly better. (if we could get it unlocked and run it at 4.6-4.7 Ghz it would still be AMDs best gaming CPU after the 29th.)

Ah yes games, the only thing processing power is good for.
 

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Ah yes games, the only thing processing power is good for.
well do you know why the 5800X3D was made? it's literally THE Gaming CPU from AMD that is worse in basically every single existing workload than the 5800X non 3D.
 

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Yay! This means im waiting til 3d vcache is really a thing on x670. Was my predicition all along.
 
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the 5800X3D wipes the floor with Zen 3 in every game.
Zen 4 just looks like to be either on par or just slightly better. (if we could get it unlocked and run it at 4.6-4.7 Ghz it would still be AMDs best gaming CPU after the 29th.)

Games benchs don't matter. Does Zen 4 hit 144+ frames, yes. Is anything beyond 144 frames largely meaningless? Also yes. Now look at all the other benches where zen 4 ranks at the top or near the top with a significant lead over Zen 3
 
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Well based on this, my needs and what cooling I want to use (air). It looks like im better off just keeping my zen 3 CPU's (5600X and 5950X) or wait for Zen 4 3D models for gaming. The gaming capabilities is not that all impressive based compared to Zen 3. All throw this review does not show 1 % and 0,1 % lows fps, that in my opinion is more important than max fps.

But it also seems Zen 4 runs toaty even on good water cooling, so air seems maybe impossible. While Zen 3 is easy to cool on air.

The workstation power seems to be well above Zen 3, but it is not that I need. I mostly need capable of aircooling the darn thing and gaming performance. For that it seems I can just as well swap 5950X for a 5800X3D.

So I don't think base on this review, Zen 4 is the right upgrade path for me. Seems I am better off just upgrading gpu's where I am mostly limited right now.
 

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Maybe you can wait even further till Zen 5 3D :) You know AM5 is about to launch with premature BIOS, full of bugs, better wait to iron all those problems out, and maybe release future SKUs with LOWER power consumption :D
 
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Why is the ram performance on the 12900K so poor?

I guess because they used DDR5-5200 with unknown latencies while you used a better DDR5-6000.
Also, who knows under what conditions their review had been conducted, so better wait for confirmation in other reviews...
 
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I guess because they used DDR5-5200 with unknown latencies while you used a better DDR5-6000.
Also, who knows under what conditions their review had been conducted, so better wait for confirmation in other reviews...
I think where it will offer immense interest is as a HEDT, a ton of cores and high clockspeed. 16 cores / 32 threads at alderlake performance will be a good product.
 
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