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[Greenslade]

Cool system

. Another one of fav Retro guys I finally got the old Dell dimension 5150 to get an OS on it took an age to do it.is very slow but i only managed to get it on an HDD.I could not get anything on Easy2Boot to work.I have a number Windows disks.I am going to try and get something on a ssd.I dare say i should take the shrewd off the CPU and put new thermal paste on it.

 

[Frick]

Many will be sold to other enthusiasts some will be kept.

I use this excuse as well and it has worked fine so far.

 

[MaxiPro800]

I can happily say the Geforce 4 Ti4200 from the GF4/Sound Blaster bundle I got, now works perfectly!
All it needed was three missing caps (C875,C876 and C1430) and that was it.
Tested it with a DVI-I (Dual Link) to HDMI and picture off my beloved ABIT BE6-II machine was absolutely lovely. I consider this a great score, especially since I would have never expected TWO Geforce 4 Ti4200 cards to pop up less than a week apart.

Now to decide what to build around it... either a slotket based Coppermine machine or a SDR-based 423 machine with the MSI board I used to test the Medion...

 

[68Olds]

I can happily say the Geforce 4 Ti4200 from the GF4/Sound Blaster bundle I got, now works perfectly!
All it needed was three missing caps (C875,C876 and C1430) and that was it.
Tested it with a DVI-I (Dual Link) to HDMI and picture off my beloved ABIT BE6-II machine was absolutely lovely. I consider this a great score, especially since I would have never expected TWO Geforce 4 Ti4200 cards to pop up less than a week apart.

Now to decide what to build around it... either a slotket based Coppermine machine or a SDR-based 423 machine with the MSI board I used to test the Medion...

I would go with the P4. My Ti4400 paired very well with a 2.6a northwood. I think the coppermine might hold the Ti4200 back a little.

 

[Robert B]

I use this excuse as well and it has worked fine so far.

True words my friend!

In my case though I sold even stuff that I thought I would never sell. Slot A motherboards, VLB cards, Socket 3 motherboards, 486 CPUs, etc... Atm I still don't fell the urge to buy them back from other sources so I assume that the worst has passed.

In any case I get way more stuff than I sell so this evens the situation a bit.

 

[Canned Noodles]

On the topic of slotted-CPU motherboards, I picked up this windows 95/98-era PC a year and a half ago. I can’t get it to work and it has remained largely untouched by me for a while, so getting it to work would be nice.
The motherboard is an AOpen AX6BC with BIOS version 2.20. The CPU is a 600MHz Katmai Pentium III with a 100MHz bus speed and the video card is an Nvidia Vanta LT.
The primary issue I am encountering is that it doesn’t display any video, whether it’s with the Vanta or any PCI video card. I tested a couple of PCI cards with LEDs that indicate the card is receiving power, and I can therefore conclude that each PCI slot does get power. None of the motherboard’s capacitors are bulging or vented. I tried installing memory, but that made no difference. Does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this system?

 

[Deleted member 185158]

On the topic of slotted-CPU motherboards, I picked up this windows 95/98-era PC a year and a half ago. I can’t get it to work and it has remained largely untouched by me for a while, so getting it to work would be nice.
The motherboard is an AOpen AX6BC with BIOS version 2.20. The CPU is a 600MHz Katmai Pentium III with a 100MHz bus speed and the video card is an Nvidia Vanta LT.
The primary issue I am encountering is that it doesn’t display any video, whether it’s with the Vanta or any PCI video card. I tested a couple of PCI cards with LEDs that indicate the card is receiving power, and I can therefore conclude that each PCI slot does get power. None of the motherboard’s capacitors are bulging or vented. I tried installing memory, but that made no difference. Does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this system?

That would default to AGP probably.

JP23 is your AGP frequency selection.

 

[68Olds]

On the topic of slotted-CPU motherboards, I picked up this windows 95/98-era PC a year and a half ago. I can’t get it to work and it has remained largely untouched by me for a while, so getting it to work would be nice.
The motherboard is an AOpen AX6BC with BIOS version 2.20. The CPU is a 600MHz Katmai Pentium III with a 100MHz bus speed and the video card is an Nvidia Vanta LT.
The primary issue I am encountering is that it doesn’t display any video, whether it’s with the Vanta or any PCI video card. I tested a couple of PCI cards with LEDs that indicate the card is receiving power, and I can therefore conclude that each PCI slot does get power. None of the motherboard’s capacitors are bulging or vented. I tried installing memory, but that made no difference. Does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this system?

Do you have a case speaker plugged into the mobo so you can hear the beep codes? Not sure if you will see any display output if there's no RAM, but you should hear a RAM missing or bad beep.

 

[Greenslade]

I have just put XP on an ssd after putting Windows 7 on a HHD on my £5 PC .It took me ages to get anything on there.Easy2Beat did not work,The problem i have is as you can see from 00756 the PC want work with two drives in? When i tried starting the PC up it said disconnect the drive with no drive on it?Why is that ,i have never heard of a PC that you can only have one drive in a PC? 00757 XP running. Another problem is i keep getting a message saying my internet connection is low?I have the highest rate broadband.

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

Does anybody here have experience with 2009~2013 systems and Windows 10?
I wonder if Windows 10 would somehow affect the performance of X48/X58/X79 systems (and period correct video cards) compared to Windows 7

I have a Q9650 in an IP35 Pro running Win10. It's functional enough, but kind of slow.

 

[Trekkie4]

Hey guys, long time no see

Just thought I'd post post couple of photos... As always, I'm going to start with the one from "Before"


...followed by "After". I know, what a surprise!


Now, for the specs... This used to be a Socket 7 system, running Pentium 233, ATI Rage II+ PCI graphics and a Voodoo card on Win95 ("B" edition).

But now, thanks to Asus P5A-B motherboard it finally became a Super Socket 7 - once again, running the same CPU (Pentium MMX 233). Of course, being a Super Socket 7 board, it supports AGP graphics so I've replaced ATI with SiS6326 AGP which will eventually become Riva TNT if & when I find one for sale. Meanwhile, the Voodoo card will remain inside for the time being, but will eventually find a new home inside the Slot 1-based Celeron 333, but more about that eventually.

 

[Canned Noodles]

That would default to AGP probably.

JP23 is your AGP frequency selection.

I will try changing it later today. Thanks for the suggestion.

Do you have a case speaker plugged into the mobo so you can hear the beep codes? Not sure if you will see any display output if there's no RAM, but you should hear a RAM missing or bad beep.

Unfortunately, no. A while ago I tried putting in the speaker from another case but there was some sort of incompatibility; I don't remember what the problem with that was.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I will try changing it later today. Thanks for the suggestion.

Unfortunately, no. A while ago I tried putting in the speaker from another case but there was some sort of incompatibility; I don't remember what the problem with that was.

Grab a few of these. They work on every PC since the PC-AT (citation needed). If it doesn't, something's wrong with your motherboard.

 

[Canned Noodles]

That would default to AGP probably.

JP23 is your AGP frequency selection.

I just tried out all 3 different jumper positions... nothing worked. The CPU, chipset and GPU seem to be getting power because they are both a bit warm after the PC is turned off.
Something weird I noticed is that two of the connections on the back of the VGA port are bridged. I don't know if this is a problem, but it just seems like that shouldn't be the case.

 

[lexluthermiester]

MATTYAS feat. KRISTINA S.(Xristina Salti) - SECRET LOVE

FRESH LOOT!!! Hmmmm ... I'm addicted to HW but I guess that you already know it by now.

1. MSI K7T PRO - SK.A KT133 with a mystery Ceramic Sk.A CPU It has massive 3900uf caps that are like skyscrapers.
2. ABIT BX-20 with a P2-400 CPU. It looks like it is an OEM board made by Abit. I found various BIOS files but no manual. Well,.... OEM, stripped down version or not, an 440BX is still an awesome board
3. ASUS P/I-P55TP4N Socket 7 - a very nice board
4. Mitsumi CD-ROM DRIVE 16bit I/F CARD 74-1881A, controller for old CD-ROM units. 2 pcs.
5. NOS Enermax Coolergiant 535W - absolutely minty fresh with a golden case. This would fit nicely into a Slot A Golden Orb kind of build.
6. Misc VLB, ISA Controllers
7. Trident 9440 VLB Video card made by SPEA
8. Cardex/Gainward Tseng ET4000 with funky SIPP like memory. Probably an industrial card. PN: 9307-20
9. PCI Trident TGUI9440-1 bought for the VRAM chips.
10. ZT52FA250HSS - ZOTAC ZT52FA250HSS ZOTAC GeForce FX 5200 128bit 256MB AGP
11. Gainward 8 MB Intel i740 ICUVGA-GW804
12. ATI Rage 128 AGP
13. P3 550
14. Zalman S775 cooler.
15. Two BIOS chips in search of their missing mother(board). I'm sure that the 286 motherboard is already minced meat ... RIP
16. Intel 486-DX2 66MHz 5V SX911
17. Intel Pentium 133MHz SY022
18. Intel Core 2 QUAD Q9400 SLB6B
19. Intel Core 2 DUO E8600 SLB9L
20. ASUS 8800 GT TOP EN8800GT-TOP/G/HTDP/512M
21. Misc stuff.

My DDR/DDR2 RAMBUS stash is growing nicely.

Big box of RAM!

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I just tried out all 3 different jumper positions... nothing worked. The CPU, chipset and GPU seem to be getting power because they are both a bit warm after the PC is turned off.
Something weird I noticed is that two of the connections on the back of the VGA port are bridged. I don't know if this is a problem, but it just seems like that shouldn't be the case.
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I'd have to look at some of my agp cards, so I'm not sure off my head, but want to say it's normal and have seen it before. Why it's like that, not sure.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hey guys, long time no see

Just thought I'd post post couple of photos... As always, I'm going to start with the one from "Before"


...followed by "After". I know, what a surprise!


Now, for the specs... This used to be a Socket 7 system, running Pentium 233, ATI Rage II+ PCI graphics and a Voodoo card on Win95 ("B" edition).

But now, thanks to Asus P5A-B motherboard it finally became a Super Socket 7 - once again, running the same CPU (Pentium MMX 233). Of course, being a Super Socket 7 board, it supports AGP graphics so I've replaced ATI with SiS6326 AGP which will eventually become Riva TNT if & when I find one for sale. Meanwhile, the Voodoo card will remain inside for the time being, but will eventually find a new home inside the Slot 1-based Celeron 333, but more about that eventually.

Question: Why do you keep the modem? Also, you need a CMOS battery..

 

[delshay]

Grab a few of these. They work on every PC since the PC-AT (citation needed). If it doesn't, something's wrong with your motherboard.

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I have a few of these, but what I have done with the other type is remove the pin headed on the motherboard & solder the speaker directly to the motherboard. The reason for this is I just keep losing them, so I just solder them to the motherboard & be done with.

 

[Greenslade]

Big box of RAM!

Lex, I have got an OS on the Del Dimension 5150 but it won't work when two drives are connected. It says to disconnect any drives that don,t have OS on them. ? I have
never heard of a PC that you can only have one drive on it

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Lex, I have got an OS on the Del Dimension 5150 but it won't work when two drives are connected. It says to disconnect any drives that don,t have OS on them. ? I have
never heard of a PC that you can only have one drive on it

Spinners have a jumper. Must put as slave if not an OS drive.

 

[Trekkie4]

Question: Why do you keep the modem?

So that I can surf the internet & stay in touch with you guys ... duh!

Okay okay sorry, I just couldn't resist Long story short, I ALWAYS put a dial-up modem inside my retro systems. Apart from adding that final "touch" (and making the build even more realistic & period correct), I just love the sound of dial-up buzzer/speaker, dialing the outgoing line (0 77 100 000). I would prefer the modem to actually be wired into the phone line & be able to perform the handshake with the server, but for the sake of my phone bill I keep it unplugged. Heh, I even considered investing into some sort of phone line emulator, so that the modem would "think" it is actually dialing something & connecting to other end

Oh well, think I'll settle for dialing sounds alone

Also, you need a CMOS battery..

Oh, the battery is already in place. Sorry, I took the pic before completing few last bits & pieces. But yes, the CMOS battery is already installed & I'm happy to say that the system POSTs just fine. Didn't have the time to hook it up to a monitor just yet, but I heard one single "Beep" during the power up, meaning that everything is working okay.

PS, you may have noticed that I'm still missing the USB 10-pin ribbon cable for the Asus USB/MIR extension. I found one extension card laying around, but unfortunately it would seem that I'm all out of USB cables. Meaning I'll have to find a new one ... so until then the USB ports will be unavailable.

 

[Greenslade]

Spinners have a jumper. Must put as slave if not an OS drive.

It is a SATA drive , and the DVD is the only ide drive.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

It is a SATA drive , and the DVD is the only ide drive.

Ok.... sata drives are spinners and have the jumpers as well.... or I am missing something??

 

[Greenslade]

Ok.... sata drives are spinners and have the jumpers as well.... or I am missing something??

I did not know Sata drives had jumpers.I thought they were just for IDE drives pressed this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h2rabbDBruQ/maxresdefault.jpg and came back to the same thing to restart I disconnected the data cabal and get the OS ,
I have never heard of a PC that can only work with one drive

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I did not know Sata drives had jumpers.I thought they were just for IDE drives pressed this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h2rabbDBruQ/maxresdefault.jpg and came back to the same thing to restart I disconnected the data cabal and get the OS ,
I have never heard of a PC that can only work with one drive

Yep, pull the drive and set the jumper to slave and see if that helps.