Some AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Processors Made with Dual-CCD Packages

[btarunr]

Some AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-core/12-thread processors could be made with dual-CCD "Raphael" packages, reveals a de-lidding feat by der8auer. This is functionally the same processor as a single-CCD package, all 6 CPU cores are located on just one of the two CCDs; while the other CCD is completely disabled. This wouldn't be the first time that AMD carved out low core-count SKUs using dual-CCD MCMs, we've seen instances of such dual-CCD Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 processors from past generations, such as the Ryzen 3000 "Matisse" and Ryzen 5000 "Vermeer." Normally, the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 SKUs are based on a single-CCD package, with the substrate physically lacking a second CCD. The IHS is small and sturdy enough to not need the second CCD as a structural support. This leads us to speculate that the 7600X is being harvested out of dual-CCD packages that have been produced surplus to demand.



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[Space Lynx]

"harvested out of... surplus demand"

lol the wording is very fitting for Halloween, well done @btarunr

 

[N/A]

At this point this is like the intel 2066 system that had a i5-7640X quad core on it. It doesn't make sense, I don't understand where this demand comes from. Do they plan to later upgrade to 9000 series or something.

 

[The King]

My 5600X has dual CCDs, still waiting for someone to find a way to unlock it.

Pretty clear from the thermal camera the other CCD is completely disabled.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Probably the least appealing Zen4 part due to pricing. Unless the dies are dead I don't see why waste them on this part.

 

[Dyatlov A]

So they sell the garbage for $300. Not bad for them…

 

[HTC]

It's actually quite simple: while attempting to make a 7900X, one of the CCDs got damaged somehow and became sufficiently damaged to force it's scrapping.

Instead of scrapping the whole CPU, they simply disabled any and all links to that CCD and re-used the other chiplets for "a lower model" CPU.

This is actually a good thing because, were this a monolithic chip, the whole CPU would have to be scrapped.

I wouldn't be surprised it this actually occurred more often, and not just with Zen 4 either.

 

[zo0lykas]

It's actually quite simple: while attempting to make a 7900X, one of the CCDs got damaged somehow and became sufficiently damaged to force it's scrapping.

Instead of scrapping the whole CPU, they simply disabled any and all links to that CCD and re-used the other chiplets for "a lower model" CPU.

This is actually a good thing because, were this a monolithic chip, the whole CPU would have to be scrapped.

I wouldn't be surprised it this actually occurred more often, and not just with Zen 4 either.

Yes!

At least one person is thinking big way, how reduce waste and make profit!

 

[usiname]

So they sell the garbage for $300. Not bad for them…

What does it remind me of... Ah yes, the F intel's cpus

 

[thewan]

been produced surplus to demand

At this point this is like the intel 2066 system that had a i5-7640X quad core on it. It doesn't make sense, I don't understand where this demand comes from. Do they plan to later upgrade to 9000 series or something.

AMD Recycles Dual-Chiplet Ryzen 7000's as Ryzen 5 7600X CPUs, Again

AMD fuses off the extra CCD, though.

www.tomshardware.com

Unless you are convicting the AMD spokesperson of lying, it was already mentioned by AMD that this is part of their manufacturing process to reduce waste. Seems many ppl here at TPU many closed minds and do not cross check with multiple news sources. It is these kind of ppl that will end up spreading misinformation that will one day bring them and the ppl close to them their downfall.

My 5600X has dual CCDs, still waiting for someone to find a way to unlock it.

Pretty clear from the thermal camera the other CCD is completely disabled.

View attachment 268078

Also mentioned in the above article, that the other CCD is fused off. There is no way to access it so how to unlock it? You want to manually unfuse it?
Use our resident wizzard magic to do it?

 

[The King]

Also mentioned in the above article, that the other CCD is fused off. There is no way to access it so how to unlock it? You want to manually unfuse it?
Use our resident wizzard magic to do it?

The tongue sticking out thing was my subtle way of saying I was joking.

I fully expected your reply.

Igor labs did say a while back they were looking into unlocking CCDs on ZEN 3 because there is still some data/sensor readings but nothing has come of it.

So no its not possible I never expected it to be in reality.

FYi CCD 2 L3 temp sensor readings on my 5600X - Does not seem to be completely fused off.

 

[Why_Me]

What does it remind me of... Ah yes, the F intel's cpus

Such as the 12700F?

 

[Dyatlov A]

What does it remind me of... Ah yes, the F intel's cpus

They at least 150usd, what i have.

 

[usiname]

They at least 150usd, what i have.

The 4/8 12100? This is the only intel's cpu below $150, 12400f is $175
Meanwhile 5600 is $160 and 5500 is $120

12400 is using ddr5 6000 here, imagine to pay $15 more for cpu, $20 more for mobo and $100 more for DDR5 to be 0.7% faster

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Such as the 12700F?

Convenient that the 5800X3D was left out. Source for this ?

 

[Why_Me]

Convenient that the 5800X3D was left out. Source for this ?

The 5800X3D was still a wet dream for the AMD homers when that review was done.

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[DeathtoGnomes]

The 5800X3D was still a wet dream for the AMD homers when that review was done.

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so not really valid.

 

[tabascosauz]

FYi CCD 2 L3 temp sensor readings on my 5600X - Does not seem to be completely fused off.
View attachment 268090

Now that's surprising. What's up with the 0C readings? Don't think I've ever seen that before.

 

[Why_Me]

so not really valid.

Ya not valid because the review was done before the release of the 5800X3D. Seriously its post like that, that make me want to see every AMD homer do a year in a Soviet style gulag with no internet.

 

[Dirt Chip]

It's actually quite simple: while attempting to make a 7900X, one of the CCDs got damaged somehow and became sufficiently damaged to force it's scrapping.

Instead of scrapping the whole CPU, they simply disabled any and all links to that CCD and re-used the other chiplets for "a lower model" CPU.

This is actually a good thing because, were this a monolithic chip, the whole CPU would have to be scrapped.

I wouldn't be surprised it this actually occurred more often, and not just with Zen 4 either.

It is a common practice with all chip manufactors (intel, amd, nv, Samsung ect).
You can disable cores also with monolithic chip and also chiplets are composed of chips that can be cut- see amd 2*5 chiplet cpus.
What is sad with zen4 is that amd keep all the profit from this saving to themselves..

 

[MarsM4N]

My 5600X has dual CCDs, still waiting for someone to find a way to unlock it.

Pretty clear from the thermal camera the other CCD is completely disabled.

View attachment 268078

der8auer could have saved himself some time & work by just running this app.

P.S.: looks like thermal imaging is getting more useful from day to day, lol.

 

[ZetZet]

Convenient that the 5800X3D was left out. Source for this ?

5800X3D is good, but it's not magic. 12700(F) is still a good CPU, it will perform similarly in games, but you still get extra threads for other applications.

 

[Mussels]

It makes sense, they're just failed 7900x CPUs - with decent odds that some are Fully Functional

 

[lesovers]

There is a bazillion BGA type connections from the CCD to the interposer PCB on the CPU and it only takes one short between the connections or one open circuit to make it useless without reworking the CCD part.

 

[Lucas_]

and ?