Rare GPUs / Unreleased GPUs

[lexluthermiester]

MACY GeForce GTX 760U Chinese Player Edition (GTX 760 Ti)

GPU: GK104-225-A2
Cores: 1344
GPU frequency: 980MHz

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G.EMPIRE GeForce GTX 970 8GB

GPU: GM204-200-A1
Cores: 1664
GPU frequency: 1089MHz
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G.EMPIRE GeForce GTX 980 8GB

GPU: GM204-400-A1
Cores: 2048
GPU frequency: 1126MHz

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Why the hell did those not come stateside?!?

 

[sniff]

anyone here ever heard of the w9000 x2?
it looks like its unreleased cuz i cant find it anywhere.
will upload more pics when it arrives.
and disect it
thoughts?

 

[LTUGamer]

EVGA RTX 4090: here you go:

 

[Calenhad]

anyone here ever heard of the w9000 x2?
it looks like its unreleased cuz i cant find it anywhere.
will upload more pics when it arrives.
and disect it
thoughts?
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Since the W9000 exists, I would assume this is an unreleased x2 version of that gpu. Will be interesting to see more when you get it. Any plans to dismantle it for closer inspection, or leave it as is?

 

[sniff]

Since the W9000 exists, I would assume this is an unreleased x2 version of that gpu. Will be interesting to see more when you get it. Any plans to dismantle it for closer inspection, or leave it as is?

yeah i will dismantle it hoping to find some interesting stuff and too change the thermal paste of course.
is there a way to pull dates from those serial numbers?

 

[LTUGamer]

EVGA RTX 4090: here you go:

One more review:

 

[freeagent]

More sadness <\3

 

[Fouquin]

anyone here ever heard of the w9000 x2?
it looks like its unreleased cuz i cant find it anywhere.
will upload more pics when it arrives.
and disect it
thoughts?
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Looks like it is unreleased. Might simply be a 'W' variant of the FirePro S10000 which did ship. Uses the exact same C387-02 PCB and everything. There is a visible date code on one sticker, the KCC sticker has 8th week of 2012 on it. Otherwise the dates will be on the PCB and ASICs.

 

[sniff]

Thats what i was thinking, it would be cool if it had a different bios or different ram chips on it.
I made a post about it on the amd forums and im hoping for a reply of one of the engineers that worked on it.
Will post pics of the pcb and asics when it arrives.

so this guy from the amd forum tells me its just a amd s10000 engineering sample and that i shouldnt look at the shroud for the name, but i think that doesnt make sense cuz why would they use a shroud of a card that doesnt exist.
If they recycled a shroud from an older gpu like the hd 6990 i would get it but this doesnt make sense to me.
To me it looks like they were going to bring out the s10000 as the server variant and the w9000x2 as the workstation variant but at the last moment scrapped the w9000x2.

tomorrow it will arrive and maybe i will find more clues

i saw one weird thing the w8000 has 256 bit bus and s10000 has 384 bit

this is what it identifies itself in speccy 2xw8000 with 3g, but a 3gb version of that card doesnt exist

 

[lexluthermiester]

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What? "which you should not have in the first place"?!? Who the hell do they think they are? That is someone you should actively avoid.

 

[sniff]

What? "which you should not have in the first place"?!? Who the hell do they think they are? That is someone you should actively avoid.

yeah to me he sounded really hostile, its there fault there engineering samples appear in the wild

 

[lexluthermiester]

yeah to me he sounded really hostile

Yeah, people like that are folks I actively avoid unless they provoke, then I unload both barrels on them. Happens here from time to time. I don't suffer foolish nitwits. That might make me sound equally the ahole, but I find life is better generally doing things this way.

its there fault there engineering samples appear in the wild

It's no one's fault really. Sometimes they do it deliberately. Once a product is launched and patents/copyright issued, there is no need for ES to be kept secret.

 

[sniff]

Yeah, people like that are folks I actively avoid unless they provoke, then I unload both barrels on them. Happens here from time to time. I don't suffer foolish nitwits. That might make me sound equally the ahole, but I find life is better generally doing things this way.

It's no one's fault really. Sometimes they do it deliberately. Once a product is launched and patents/copyright issued, there is no need for ES to be kept secret.

i thought they were meant to be destroyed.

do you have any thoughts about this card?

Re: rare/unreleased gpu w9000x2

i bought it as a collection item and hoped you knew more about it

community.amd.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

i thought they were meant to be destroyed.

Depends on the company.

do you have any thoughts about this card?

Re: rare/unreleased gpu w9000x2

i bought it as a collection item and hoped you knew more about it

community.amd.com

I have no clue. Have you installed it and ran GPUZ?

 

[sniff]

I have no clue. Have you installed it and ran GPUZ?

it will arrive tomorrow and i need to find a dvi or mini dp adapter first

 

[lexluthermiester]

it will arrive tomorrow and i need to find a dvi or mini dp adapter first

Ah ok, you haven't got it yet. If you're stateside or in the EU, Amazon or Ebay will be a great place to find adapters like that.

 

[Fouquin]

Thats what i was thinking, it would be cool if it had a different bios or different ram chips on it.
I made a post about it on the amd forums and im hoping for a reply of one of the engineers that worked on it.
Will post pics of the pcb and asics when it arrives.

so this guy from the amd forum tells me its just a amd s10000 engineering sample and that i shouldnt look at the shroud for the name, but i think that doesnt make sense cuz why would they use a shroud of a card that doesnt exist.
If they recycled a shroud from an older gpu like the hd 6990 i would get it but this doesnt make sense to me.
To me it looks like they were going to bring out the s10000 as the server variant and the w9000x2 as the workstation variant but at the last moment scrapped the w9000x2.

tomorrow it will arrive and maybe i will find more clues

i saw one weird thing the w8000 has 256 bit bus and s10000 has 384 bit
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this is what it identifies itself in speccy 2xw8000 with 3g, but a 3gb version of that card doesnt exist



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Whew, there's some unpacking to do here.

AMD has definitely produced engineering samples under one name, then simply changed the naming at launch to pivot the card into a market where they think it's more likely to succeed. It's completely plausible that they decided selling it as a W series would not make sense. Shrouds on engineering samples are not "random" though. They can be blank, or unfinished, or a prototype that got scrapped, but they will not be entirely random. They also won't "randomly" expose a card variant that never shipped.

AMD's stance, per Robert Hallock while he worked for AMD, on engineering, qualification, and review samples is that they are evaluated at ZERO value, and are often given freely to associates, partners, vendors, media personnel, and sometimes employees. There is no reason why, "you should not have," one or any of them since AMD doesn't express interest of ownership of samples outside their labs. Especially on 10 year old samples. What AMD does take issue with is the recipients of sample hardware going on eBay and selling it to make a quick buck, since they received the hardware with no value attributed AMD would rather that it stay that way. But you, as the second, third, or umpteenth owner, are not bound by any restriction.

Also the release date of the S10000 6GB was November 2012, not 2014. The 12GB was 2014. So... That guy is full of bad info.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Whew, there's some unpacking to do here.

AMD has definitely produced engineering samples under one name, then simply changed the naming at launch to pivot the card into a market where they think it's more likely to succeed. It's completely plausible that they decided selling it as a W series would not make sense. Shrouds on engineering samples are not "random" though. They can be blank, or unfinished, or a prototype that got scrapped, but they will not be entirely random. They also won't "randomly" expose a card variant that never shipped.

AMD's stance, per Robert Hallock while he worked for AMD, on engineering, qualification, and review samples is that they are evaluated at ZERO value, and are often given freely to associates, partners, vendors, media personnel, and sometimes employees. There is no reason why, "you should not have," one or any of them since AMD doesn't express interest of ownership of samples outside their labs. Especially on 10 year old samples. What AMD does take issue with is the recipients of sample hardware going on eBay and selling it to make a quick buck, since they received the hardware with no value attributed AMD would rather that it stay that way. But you, as the second, third, or umpteenth owner, are not bound by any restriction.

Also the release date of the S10000 6GB was November 2012, not 2014. The 12GB was 2014. So... That guy is full of bad info.

Spot on every point. Well said.

 

[sniff]

do those numbers on the asics mean anything?
there is written 44 and v2 written on the back of the card but i dont think we will ever know what that means
hynix h5g02h24afr

so here is the bios of the master i think forgot to save the second one.
and a gpuz screen:

i was like wtf is zaphod turns out to be this character that is a Siamese twin, like the card itself

 

[Athlonite]

LOL Zaphod Beeblebrox just goes to show how two heads aren't always better than one

 

[lexluthermiester]

do those numbers on the asics mean anything?
there is written 44 and v2 written on the back of the card but i dont think we will ever know what that means
hynix h5g02h24afr

so here is the bios of the master i think forgot to save the second one.
and a gpuz screen:

i was like wtf is zaphod turns out to be this character that is a Siamese twin, like the card itself



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Look like that guy in the other forum made a mistake. Do drivers for the W8000 install properly with this card? Engineering samples generally(but not always) work with retail drivers.

 

[TOMCAT]

sniff asked "anyone here ever heard of the W9000 X2"

Yes, sniff's W9000 X2 Engineering sample is the third ES card I know with brown PCB. This card is very close or identically to release version, but it surely has a pre-release BIOS.
Release version was sold as FirePro S10000. The early cards have a S10000 sticker, if you remove it, you have a W9000 X2 card .



My early Sapphire FirePro S10000 with same PCB, Device ID and Hynix memory for comparison.



I recommend AMD Radeon Pro FirePro S10000 legacy drivers for this card.-

Tomorrow is the 10th anniversary of the FirePro S10000 release, so let me share this info.

info for earlier red PCB W9000 X2 ES cards:

AMD FirePro W9000 Dual-GPU Graphics Card Pictured, Design Precursor of HD 7990?

At the AMD Fusion Developer Summit (AFDS) 2012, the host unveiled its next flagship professional graphics card, the FirePro W9000. What makes the card particularly interesting is that it is dual-GPU, packing two Tahiti-derived GPUs, the same chips that go into making Radeon HD 7900 series. The...

www.techpowerup.com

Here it is called W9000 Dual instead W9000 X2.

 

[sniff]

so how rare are these cards?
and you mentioned pcb color, are there different colored ones?

could we see this as an unreleased card or just a name changed at the last moment?

 

[TOMCAT]

I estimate the number to be under a hundred cards, but that's just my guess.

For me it is a rare FirePro ES card (see your part Number MS-101) close to early standard S10000 (Part number MS-102).
S10000 or W9000 X2 (or W9000 Dual) is just a name change for marketing.
To be considered as unreleased it needs a different PCB or a different GPU variant.

The early S10000 W9000 X2 ES cards had red PCBs with a different board number. but be aware, the regular S10000 passiv has a red PCB too.

 

[TOMCAT]

S10000 or W9000 X2 (or W9000 Dual) is just a name change

I found my internet source again, still online.

Sometimes even big players like Sapphire struggle with this FirePro name.


Vmodtech.com mention it in the caption R9000X2, cooler printing W9000 X2 and the Sapphire text below the card AMD FirePro S10000 active.
The photo was taken at Computex 2014.

SAPPHIRE @ COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2014 ,SAPPHIRE @ COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2014 : : Page 4 (4/4)

Review SAPPHIRE @ COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2014 SAPPHIRE @ COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2014

www.vmodtech.com