LG Launches the UltraGear OLED With 240 Hz Refresh Rate

[TheLostSwede]

The first flat OLED gaming monitor is here and it's unsurprisingly from LG and part of its UltraGear range of gaming products and goes under the model name 27GR95QE-B. Although it's being touted as a 27-inch display, the screen size is only 26.5-inches, which is a bit unusual. The resolution is 2560 x 1440, with a pixel pitch of 110.8 PPI and the refresh rate goes up to 240 Hz. The OLED panel is capable of delivering 1.07 billion colours and delivers a colour gamut of 98.5 percent of the DCI-P3 standard. LG claims the display has a GtG response time of 0.03 ms which is so far unheard of on a consumer display. LG doesn't supply a brightness rating, nor does the UltraGear OLED appear to have any kind of HDR certification, but supports HDR10, although considering it's an OLED panel, this shouldn't be much of a concern.

There's support for FreeSync Premium and VRR, with the display being G-Sync compatible as well. Other gaming related features include the typical things you'd find on most gaming displays today, such as an FPS counter, a built in crosshair and of course some RGB lighting features. Connectivity wise the UltraGear OLED comes with two unspecified HDMI ports and one unspecified DisplayPort input, as well as one upstreams USB 3.0 port (Type-B) and two downstreams USB 3.0 ports (Type-A). The monitor also has an S/PDIF out and a headset jack, which suggests that it does audio over USB. Finally there's a barrel plug for the 19 V power brick. The display also has support for DTS HP:X where HP stands for headphones, but there are no built in speakers. The stand supports tilt, height, swivel and pivot adjustments and can be adjusted up to 11 cm in height. LG is asking US$999.99 for the UltraGear OLED, which might be a bit more than what most people would be willing to pay for it, but it's at least a first step towards a range of new OLED gaming monitors.



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[Chomiq]

Meantime:

Yes, I know - it's not a monitor.

 

[Chrispy_]

So $999 is a lot of money for a brand that has been unable to really address burn-in issues despite the competition doing a pretty solid job.

I want to like this, but LG's track record so far has been bad, based on customer reviews and mainstream youtube channels.

 

[sephiroth117]

Meantime:
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Yes, I know - it's not a monitor.

It's not a monitor it's still a 42" 120Hz native HDR OLED display, so I get your point

TV are largely financed with their smart OS (targeted ads, metrics they sell etc.) and their mass production volume so yes it's harder to compare price wise.

42" tho that cannot work for me 32" is the max I'd go for a monitor.


I just don't understand the choice of picking an aggressive matte anti-reflective coating here...partially kills the purpose of OLED there...at least have glossy options.

I think I may pick the alienware freesync OLED one but I will wait for CES as many other may show OLED/mini-led displays

 

[Crackong]

Okay
It seems LG is listening
Now get your 32 inch 4k 120Hz OLED out

 

[Dredi]

Meantime:
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Yes, I know - it's not a monitor.

Add a usable stand to it and it’s already more expensive. Also, 240Hz has some benefits, as does the smaller size.

To me the <1k$ price seems pretty good. There are no better options for competetive (PC) gaming. All higher Hz displays have a lot worse pixel response, making them quite pointless in comparison.

So unless this has some silly processing lag or other currently unknown bad qualities, it’s the thing to get.

 

[Chaitanya]

So $999 is a lot of money for a brand that has been unable to really address burn-in issues despite the competition doing a pretty solid job.

I want to like this, but LG's track record so far has been bad, based on customer reviews and mainstream youtube channels.

Depending on where you are in the world their after sales service is also a joke(while Samsung has issues with QC so even they arent faultless). High time people start using screensavers to save from burn-in(CRTs also suffered from similar issues back in the day)

 

[Dredi]

I want to like this, but LG's track record so far has been bad, based on customer reviews and mainstream youtube channels.

Any relevant ones since the 8 -series? All I’ve seen have been just fine after the panel refresh, and latest models simply do that more often automatically to limit the ””problems”” visibility to the end user.

 

[Garrus]

It's not a monitor it's still a 42" 120Hz native HDR OLED display, so I get your point

TV are largely financed with their smart OS (targeted ads, metrics they sell etc.) and their mass production volume so yes it's harder to compare price wise.

42" tho that cannot work for me 32" is the max I'd go for a monitor.


I just don't understand the choice of picking an aggressive matte anti-reflective coating here...partially kills the purpose of OLED there...at least have glossy options.

I think I may pick the alienware freesync OLED one but I will wait for CES as many other may show OLED/mini-led displays

A 37" 16:9 TV would also work well as a monitor. Every time it gets smaller it gets better. I really wish they'd make a 37" model.

Okay
It seems LG is listening
Now get your 32 inch 4k 120Hz OLED out

240hz you mean, samsung did it, LG can too

 

[Dredi]

High time people start using screensavers to save from burn-in

Just use the panels pixel refresh. It does the same thing as a ”screen saver” would, but optimally based on individual pixel readouts.

 

[GerKNG]

i'll buy one as soon as they give me a 5 year warranty that not a single pixel will burn in at 100% brightness and 24/7 runtime.

 

[TheLostSwede]

i'll buy one as soon as they give me a 5 year warranty that not a single pixel will burn in at 100% brightness and 24/7 runtime.

Uhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?

 

[Dredi]

i'll buy one as soon as they give me a 5 year warranty that not a single pixel will burn in at 100% brightness and 24/7 runtime.

Just limit/calibrate the ”100%” brightness to something like a CRT, ~100 nits, and I’d say getting burn in to be a pretty difficult job, even with silly test patterns and test durations.

 

[GerKNG]

Uhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?

that's not the point.
i want a warranty for this 1000€! OLED to cover burn in even at 100% brightness for 5 years because i already spend a thousand bucks on a 27 inch 1440p monitor (a full peace of mind warranty). otherwise i won't even bother wasting money again in another oled (we had a C1 in my parents house and it had significant burn in after just ~18 months.)

 

[Dredi]

that's not the point.
i want a warranty for this 1000€!

Just move to the EU, and you get at least two years for everything you purchase.

Edit:
And what display do you have then, that has a 5 year warranty to it? Some EIZO maybe?

we had a C1 in my parents house and it had significant burn in after just ~18 months.

Really? Got any pics and other details?

 

[bug]

nor does the UltraGear OLED appear to have any kind of HDR certification beyond HDR10

Careful there, HDR10 is not a certification, it's a standard. And it's for the format of the input data, you could output that as black and white, it has no business with the output. It's actually the lesser of the HDR standards, because it only supports static metadata. It's sort of the least common denominator, usually sources are DolbyVision, HLG or HDR10+.

 

[TheLostSwede]

that's not the point.
i want a warranty for this 1000€! OLED to cover burn in even at 100% brightness for 5 years because i already spend a thousand bucks on a 27 inch 1440p monitor (a full peace of mind warranty). otherwise i won't even bother wasting money again in another oled (we had a C1 in my parents house and it had significant burn in after just ~18 months.)

No-one will give you that kind of a warranty, as it's not how these kind of products are supposed to be used.

Careful there, HDR10 is not a certification, it's a standard. And it's for the format of the input data, you could output that as black and white, it has no business with the output. It's actually the lesser of the HDR standards, because it only supports static metadata. It's sort of the least common denominator, usually sources are DolbyVision, HLG or HDR10+.

Fixed.

 

[GerKNG]

Just move to the EU, and you get at least two years for everything you purchase.



Really? Got any pics and other details?

i live in germany.
and two years is not enough for a monitor like this. (why not 5 years? is the technology so bad that they don't trust their own product that they sell for the price of two really high end monitors?)

The C1 was used for watching TV (not for running 24/7 a news channel. a huge variety of TV Shows, Movies etc.)
i don't have photos but it was very similar to this.

 

[Dredi]

i don't have photos

What a shame…
What did LG’s support write back to you?

two years is not enough for a monitor like this.

After two years, you still should get something out of it. Depending on the perceived quality of the monitor. Anyway, what monitors do you buy and from where, to get your 5 year warranties? All displays have parts that wear out over time.

 

[vasile_gherasim]

Nice that we are starting to get OLED monitor with this purpose, a monitor.
But this model here is hideous, I mean the panel is so slim and you, LG, slap a brick on the back as inputs and that stand.
Why don't go all the way, and make a very slim connector, and use a dock to connect.

 

[GerKNG]

No-one will give you that kind of a warranty, as it's not how these kind of products are supposed to be used.

which warranty of a display ever said that you void it with a certain brightness or usage?
if a technology is well known to have issues burn in and dimming over time... why don't you give me a nice long warranty? do you not trust your own product that you try to sell me for at least 1000€
other manufacturers have no problem with that as long as it's not an OLED.
ASUS has a 5 year warranty on their Pro Art displays, Viewsonic, HP and Sony do it for a few bucks.

What a shame…
What did LG’s support write back to you?

it was from Amazon and we just sent it back and received a refund.

 

[Dredi]

Nice that we are starting to get OLED monitor with this purpose, a monitor.
But this model here is hideous, I mean the panel is so slim and you, LG, slap a brick on the back as inputs and that stand.
Why don't go all the way, and make a very slim connector, and use a dock to connect.

Maybe they don’t want to make it into a 1500$ monitor?

 

[vasile_gherasim]

Maybe, but i would go for another 100usd if they can lose that brick, is not like they use an internal power supply, since is an external one.

 

[Dredi]

it was from Amazon and we just sent it back and received a refund.

After 1.5 years? And no silly questions? What is this amazon you talk of? Usually they are pure garbage when it comes to this kind of stuff. Anyway, now we don’t know if it was a defect or burn in. Sad.

maybe you should just get this monitor from amazon as well. You can then simply return it if suffers from burn in.

 

[Bwaze]

I'd really be intetested in 32" 4K 120 Hz (or higher) OLED, but yeah, burn-in still isn't solved. Just ignoring it and focusing on feedback by the people with incredible stories isn't enough.