AMD "Navi 31" Radeon RX 7900 XTX and XT Unboxing

[Gungar]

The 6800xt (and 6800) had the exact same memory setup as the full die 6900xt.
The 7900xt not only cuts a similar % of CUs to the 6800xt, but also cuts down the amount of memory, the memory bus, and even the L3 cache. It is a more cut down card comparatively than the 6800xt, but costs $250 more.
It probably out performs the 6900xt, but it still ought not cost so much. Would be more interesting in that original price range of $650, maybe even $700.
That said I expect both cards to see price cuts in 6 months at the most. Most people into high performance/high price seem to buy Nvidia, and even Nvidia can’t sell the 4080. Ideally chiplet makes it easier to get in a price war for AMD.

Fair enough

 

[Gucky]

Will the Dec 12 review use your new gaming test rig powered by the 13900K?

Bad choice. AMD GPUs benefit more from using AMD CPUs. So 7700X or 7950X are a better choice. Even better, but not available 7000X3D.

 

[Oberon]

Strange that they felt the need to design and manufacture different heatsinks for these cards. I guess it just shows that the 7900XT was supposed to be 7800XT at first, or something, but AMD wanted to sell it at a higher price, so were forced to rename it to 7900XT, as the price difference itself does not really make sense for the spec level vs. XTX.

They did the exact same thing with the 6800 and 6800 XT...

 

[zo0lykas]

Strange that they felt the need to design and manufacture different heatsinks for these cards. I guess it just shows that the 7900XT was supposed to be 7800XT at first, or something, but AMD wanted to sell it at a higher price, so were forced to rename it to 7900XT, as the price difference itself does not really make sense for the spec level vs. XTX.

Like 4080, the 7900XT is looking to be worse price/performance than 4090/7900XTX, which is a shame: 87.5% lower core count and 4GB less VRAM vs. 7900XTX, but for 90% of the price, while the 6800XT had 90% the core count with the same VRAM for 65% of the money - bigger spec gap for almost the same price.

AMD soon announce new GPUs 7950xt and 7990xt to compete again with high-end Nvidia cards, no pressure just give a time

 

[Aldain]

Strange that they felt the need to design and manufacture different heatsinks for these cards. I guess it just shows that the 7900XT was supposed to be 7800XT at first, or something, but AMD wanted to sell it at a higher price, so were forced to rename it to 7900XT, as the price difference itself does not really make sense for the spec level vs. XTX.

Like 4080, the 7900XT is looking to be worse price/performance than 4090/7900XTX, which is a shame: 87.5% lower core count and 4GB less VRAM vs. 7900XTX, but for 90% of the price, while the 6800XT had 90% the core count with the same VRAM for 65% of the money - bigger spec gap for almost the same price.

Utter nonsense

 

[Creatorbros3]

The first cards that have me contemplating upgrading from my GTX 1070.

These are not the first cards for me. I have contemplated it several times. But I may actually make the jump this time around. Davinci Resolve is a bit choppy for me with my old 1070. I may get a CPU upgrade to pair with a 7900 XTX too. Very curious to see the performance in a few days...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Strange that they felt the need to design and manufacture different heatsinks for these cards. I guess it just shows that the 7900XT was supposed to be 7800XT at first, or something, but AMD wanted to sell it at a higher price, so were forced to rename it to 7900XT, as the price difference itself does not really make sense for the spec level vs. XTX.

Like 4080, the 7900XT is looking to be worse price/performance than 4090/7900XTX, which is a shame: 87.5% lower core count and 4GB less VRAM vs. 7900XTX, but for 90% of the price, while the 6800XT had 90% the core count with the same VRAM for 65% of the money - bigger spec gap for almost the same price.

Your first paragraph is totally shire horse tackle, they're not made in the last three months and in fact have been developed over 3/5 years and have been a settled design over a year now.

I see some reason in the second paragraph I would have thumbed up but that horses turd at the start put me off.

 

[jesdals]

W1zzard@ in your testing could you test the thickness of the thermalpads one would need to make the same mod as on the 6xxx series cards

and placement - of course unless AMD didnt cheap out this time around

 

[MrDweezil]

GPUs have a performance level and a price point, and the combination is either competitive or it isn't. Who cares what the card name is?

 

[Ando]

Your first paragraph is totally shire horse tackle, they're not made in the last three months and in fact have been developed over 3/5 years and have been a settled design over a year now.

I see some reason in the second paragraph I would have thumbed up but that horses turd at the start put me off.

In his defense, the name and price is the one aspect they can easily change at the last minute. Those would not be set in stone 3-5 years ago.
As the other guy said though, the 6800 did also have a smaller cooler despite being a lower volume cut down product.

 

[JAKra]

2211: year&week.
Right?

So this card was manufactured in March(!) ?

 

[rv8000]

I want RT numbers. Don’t care about the looks.
I agree with those who wrote the 7900XT seems to have a terrible value as well as the 4080 to their big brothers.

No gpu is bad if it’s priced accordingly.

RT numbers will be irrelevant, buy a 4090 or 4080 if you want playable RT performance with DLSS blurring, smearing, and artifacts.

What is with the general e-boner for RT performance when implementations aren’t worth the performance loss or visual IQ improvements are minuscule in the handful of games using RT?

 

[W1zzard]

Will the Dec 12 review use your new gaming test rig powered by the 13900K?

The rig isn’tready yet, and i haven’t had found time to retest all my cards with new games etc.

But because I keep getting shit for having a CPU that’s faster than 80% of our readers, I've started to retest just the important comparison cards (maybe 8) on 13900K with the existing games. Should be able to barely make it if I sleep the absolute minimum .. Takes about 5 hours per card, you do the math.

Edit: and I have the two main reviews to write

W1zzard@ in your testing could you test the thickness of the thermalpads one would need to make the same mod as on the 6xxx series cards
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and placement - of course unless AMD didnt cheap out this time around

I used to report the measurements, but it's not worth it for the time and effort spent. Just buy a bunch of them and see what fits. Placement will be visible from my photos

 

[aciDev]

RT numbers will be irrelevant, buy a 4090 or 4080 if you want playable RT performance with DLSS blurring, smearing, and artifacts.

What is with the general e-boner for RT performance when implementations aren’t worth the performance loss or visual IQ improvements are minuscule in the handful of games using RT?

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of brainwashing?

 

[ARF]

AMD soon announce new GPUs 7950xt and 7990xt to compete again with high-end Nvidia cards, no pressure just give a time

Are you saying that the RX 7900 XT/X will be failures?

The 6800xt (and 6800) had the exact same memory setup as the full die 6900xt.
The 7900xt not only cuts a similar % of CUs to the 6800xt, but also cuts down the amount of memory, the memory bus, and even the L3 cache. It is a more cut down card comparatively than the 6800xt, but costs $250 more.
It probably out performs the 6900xt, but it still ought not cost so much. Would be more interesting in that original price range of $650, maybe even $700.
That said I expect both cards to see price cuts in 6 months at the most. Most people into high performance/high price seem to buy Nvidia, and even Nvidia can’t sell the 4080. Ideally chiplet makes it easier to get in a price war for AMD.

If the RX 7900 XT barely outperforms the RX 6900 XT, I'd call it uber fail.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

The rig isn’tready yet, and i haven’t had found time to retest all my cards with new games etc.

But because I keep getting shit for having a CPU that’s faster than 80% of our readers, I've started to retest just the important comparison cards (maybe 8) on 13900K with the existing games. Should be able to barely make it if I sleep the absolute minimum .. Takes about 5 hours per card, you do the math.


I used to report the measurements, but it's not worth it for the time and effort spent. Just buy a bunch of them and see what fits. Placement will be visible from my photos

Just know that some appreciate your efforts, earnestly and wholeheartedly.

And accept you couldn't please everyone no matter what you do.

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[ARF]

The rig isn’tready yet, and i haven’t had found time to retest all my cards with new games etc.

But because I keep getting shit for having a CPU that’s faster than 80% of our readers, I've started to retest just the important comparison cards (maybe 8) on 13900K with the existing games. Should be able to barely make it if I sleep the absolute minimum .. Takes about 5 hours per card, you do the math.

Aren't there slaves around you to share the work?

 

[jesdals]

The rig isn’tready yet, and i haven’t had found time to retest all my cards with new games etc.

But because I keep getting shit for having a CPU that’s faster than 80% of our readers, I've started to retest just the important comparison cards (maybe 8) on 13900K with the existing games. Should be able to barely make it if I sleep the absolute minimum .. Takes about 5 hours per card, you do the math.


I used to report the measurements, but it's not worth it for the time and effort spent. Just buy a bunch of them and see what fits. Placement will be visible from my photos

I used 2mm on my 6900XT

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of brainwashing?

Dont blame him, not everyone is capable of understanding and ignoring stupid gimmicks like RT.

And I meant the other poor poster that his life is empty without RT.

 

[ARF]

@ARF no he's spouting tuber RUMOURS.
Nothing more but I note how you auto twisted it shill style into AMD fail.

We are in a very dangerous situation. First, it was 12K shaders, now they are only 6K shaders. I don't know what to think.
If the performance uplift over the RX 6950 XT is not significant enough, AMD will have to decrease the prices. 500$ for an RX 7900 XT and 600$ for an RX 7900 XTX.

 

[jesdals]

Any date for release of test of the AIB models?

 

[willcf15]

The rig isn’tready yet, and i haven’t had found time to retest all my cards with new games etc.

But because I keep getting shit for having a CPU that’s faster than 80% of our readers, I've started to retest just the important comparison cards (maybe 8) on 13900K with the existing games. Should be able to barely make it if I sleep the absolute minimum .. Takes about 5 hours per card, you do the math.

Edit: and I have the two main reviews to write


I used to report the measurements, but it's not worth it for the time and effort spent. Just buy a bunch of them and see what fits. Placement will be visible from my photos

Just to add some contrast, I'm actually hype for your reviews on a "slower" CPU because it'll be more indicative of the performance I'll actually see.

Also, don't skimp on sleep for our sake. That sh*t's bad for you. We want W1zz around and healthy as long as possible for purely selfish reasons

 

[john_]

I have no idea why people still think that the 7900xt is a renamed 7800xt. The 7900xt is a 320bit bus card and 6800xt has a 256bit bus.

Because we need to find excuses for Nvidia's fiasco with the RTX 4080 12GB.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

We are in a very dangerous situation. First, it was 12K shaders, now they are only 6K shaders. I don't know what to think.
If the performance uplift over the RX 6950 XT is not significant enough, AMD will have to decrease the prices. 500$ for an RX 7900 XT and 600$ for an RX 7900 XTX.

If AMD had you in pocket like Nvidia I wouldn't have to read this shit.
We are not in a dangerous position, I'm sat in work, there's danger here.
But as a potential GPU buyer I feel no fear.

I'll await reviews, not be hyperbolic or hyperNEG and comment on knowledge not rumours.

 

[ARF]

If AMD had you in pocket like Nvidia I wouldn't have to read this shit.
We are not in a dangerous position, I'm sat in work, there's danger here.
But as a potential GPU buyer I feel no fear.

I'll await reviews, not be hyperbolic or hyperNEG and comment on knowledge not rumours.

There are some disturbing things that we already know and that are outside of the reviews.
The enormous sizes and the scalper price tags.

If you are not worried, that's also a new problem.

I don't accept these and don't agree with the offers.