Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Mussels]

8 hour P95 run. Never seen my 1700 break 58C, looks like these 5k series run hotter, but I guess 7nm vs 14nm gets more dense and less surface area, so more heat.

Not more heat - harder to transfer heat

 

[mechtech]

Not more heat - harder to transfer heat

Correct. Grammar/phonics is important

 

[Mussels]

It's critical to understanding the issues and how to resolve them, the amount of people on social media saying that AMD CPU's are "hotter" followed by random crap like that a higher CPU temperature means a hotter room (the opposite is true - better cooling vents heat to the room faster)

All because incorrect or vague phrasing (particularly from youtubers) led them down a rabbit hole of misunderstanding

 

[freeagent]

The last time I pulled X3D from my system the CPU stuck to the cooler, was not expecting that when I was removing it. Of course the CPU had to come out with it.. bending some pins in the process . and I didnt notice until yesterday when my CPU would not socket.

And of course now that I am old I cant see shit up close, and all of those pins just blend into a golden blur so I cant fix it until I go get glasses

Never once had this problem with AM4 since I started using it, but this latest batch of TF7 is sticky. I quit using it. FFS. This is one of the reasons why I left 939.

I got those old feelings once again

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

The last time I pulled X3D from my system the CPU stuck to the cooler, was not expecting that when I was removing it. Of course the CPU had to come out with it.. bending some pins in the process . and I didnt notice until yesterday when my CPU would not socket.

And of course now that I am old I cant see shit up close, and all of those pins just blend into a golden blur so I cant fix it until I go get glasses

Never once had this problem with AM4 since I started using it, but this latest batch of TF7 is sticky. I quit using it. FFS. This is one of the reasons why I left 939.

I got those old feelings once again

Do you have a soldering station or helping hands? A magnifying glass might help, and a mounted one is even better.

 

[freeagent]

Do you have a soldering station or helping hands? A magnifying glass might help, and a mounted one is even better.

I might try to take it to a jeweler. They are all intact, but out just a few degrees, just enough to mess up the alignment. There are 4 or 5 pins I think. My wife has good vision, but her hands are not steady enough. No chance of my bank card getting in there, and my mech. pencil was too girthy

 

[Norton]

And of course now that I am old I cant see shit up close, and all of those pins just blend into a golden blur so I cant fix it until I go get glasses

Setup your smart phone on a couple of stands and use the camera... I used mine propped up on 2 empty cigarette packs and straightened the pins by running a razor blade carefully along the rows. Worked like a charm and my eyes are terrible too

 

[freeagent]

Setup your smart phone on a couple of stands and use the camera... I used mine propped up on 2 empty cigarette packs and straightened the pins by running a razor blade carefully along the rows. Worked like a charm and my eyes are terrible too

That is some clever thinking!

Thank you kindly sir, I do have all of those, cept the ciggy packs.. gave those up

 

[stinger608]

And of course now that I am old I cant see shit up close, and all of those pins just blend into a golden blur so I cant fix it until I go get glasses

Run to a cheap store and grab a pair of them cheap reading glasses.

Cheap and work great.

 

[freeagent]

Run to a cheap store and grab a pair of them cheap reading glasses.

 

[Norton]

That is some clever thinking!

Thank you kindly sir, I do have all of those, cept the ciggy packs.. gave those up

Processor boxes will work too

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Run to a cheap store and grab a pair of them cheap reading glasses.

Cheap and work great.

Essentials of my PC Building kit:

 

[freeagent]

I was really cranky when I realized I couldn’t see what I was doing no matter what light I tried lol. To me it was hopeless so I kinda just shut down when my efforts failed. After I get my todo list done I will go back and try to fix my cpu. It just made me sad every time I looked at it.

Maybe that was fate. I am between jobs right now and was going to sell my 5900X and use my X3D. This is a sign to keep them

 

[Veseleil]

I bent bunch of pins on my 3600 the same day it got delivered. The idiot (me), unpacked it and returned it to the shitty plastic enclosure it came with, but facing the wrong side. It was a nightmare as pins on two of the sides were bent at almost 45 degrees angle. Even the second row. Thankfully, it's a high quality gold they used. The tools I've used were razor blade and a mechanical pencil:

 

[igralec84]

Is SuperPi32M a reliable way to test Curve Optimizer settings?
I'm going thread by thread for those 5 minutes it takes and CCD1 seems to work at -22 to -25, seems a bit too good to be true. Planning on using Core Cycler when i find out where SuperPi doesn't BSOD or freeze. The first core on CCD2 crashed at -13 so seems to need -12, since the CCD2 is over 100mhz slower than CCD1, not sure if that means more CO or less.

The only thing so far that crashes most of the time (did it even at all core -13) is 3Dmark Cpu profile at single thread, but might also be the RAM as TM5 throws 6 errors in 2 hours (karhu memtest does 4500+%), might need to raise TRFC above 600 or something. Haven't had any game or random crashes yet, though

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Intel platform isn't as sensitive to RAM speed as Ryzen. When I switched from 16GB @ 2666 to 32GB @ 3466 I saw a significant boost.

Ryzen stinks at 2666.

 

[freeagent]

Is SuperPi32M a reliable way to test Curve Optimizer settings?

If you can run a full round or two of 32m on a single core or thread it should be ok..

Edit:

If not the computer will probably blink out and restart

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Asus is artificially stingy about the fan control, and like they do for certain other settings they will intentionally hide controls on boards that aren't real-ROG (Crosshair).

Last I checked my B550 Strix-I had no fan control (it is B550 but has a VRM fan under here).
The X570 Strix-I has no control over its two fans, unless modded BIOS. Has caused a lot of people frustration.

Sounds like something I would expect on a lousy "-VM" motherboard from 19-20 years ago!

The last time I pulled X3D from my system the CPU stuck to the cooler, was not expecting that when I was removing it. Of course the CPU had to come out with it.. bending some pins in the process . and I didnt notice until yesterday when my CPU would not socket.

I always do the twisty motion routine, and that's likely why that only happened to me with a Pentium 4 2.2 GHz (IIRC) (Northwood, I believe) that I wasn't using, LOL.

So essentially, good luck buddy, we ain't promising shit

Sounds like the meme of DDR2 @ 533 MHz (1066) or 450 MHz, (900) LOL.

 

[freeagent]

It still stings.

Its on my kitchen table in its clamshell.

On another note.. I grabbed the TL-B12 Extreme fans that were on my sons Ultra120 Extreme and threw them on the floor of my Torrent, and gave him the rainbow fans that I was using, they came from PA120SE. His system is in a Define R4 right now, I think tommorow I will get him into my Meshify C and give him the white PA120SE. Hoping I can use the fan clips from TRUE on PA120 because I somehow lost 3 of its 4 fan clips.

Those PA120SE fans are a step down in quality from their Pro and Extreme series fans for sure. But if they are cheap they work ok, not a fan of their tone, but its good enough for the kids

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Had a random reboot while gaming

Sad

I may need that SoC voltage higher after all
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It's 39C and raining so I'll just assume i've been cursed

Backs up a theory i had that WHEA errors are heat related - lighter gaming was fine earlier today and heavier games were fine in colder weather

The irony is that more voltage makes it more stable, but also adds to the heat. Makes me wanna set a 75c cTDP limit in the BIOS to prevent random spikes hurting stability

Remember these words:

Hot=Acts like bronze! Cold=Acts like gold!

 

[freeagent]

Hot=Acts like bronze! Cold=Acts like gold

They don't mind the heat.. they do enjoy ample power limits though.

 

[tabascosauz]

Is SuperPi32M a reliable way to test Curve Optimizer settings?
I'm going thread by thread for those 5 minutes it takes and CCD1 seems to work at -22 to -25, seems a bit too good to be true. Planning on using Core Cycler when i find out where SuperPi doesn't BSOD or freeze. The first core on CCD2 crashed at -13 so seems to need -12, since the CCD2 is over 100mhz slower than CCD1, not sure if that means more CO or less.

The only thing so far that crashes most of the time (did it even at all core -13) is 3Dmark Cpu profile at single thread, but might also be the RAM as TM5 throws 6 errors in 2 hours (karhu memtest does 4500+%), might need to raise TRFC above 600 or something. Haven't had any game or random crashes yet, though

Why not ycruncher? This is my testing config for CO, just remember to set the individual core every time you run ycruncher. I would go default cfg corecycler first because it's a faster test. I wouldn't go in reverse from something else to corecycler (unless that something else is something worthless like cinebench).

Max clock on x core never indicates anything for what that core can achieve on CO. Counterproductive to start going off of assumptions like that. CO value is only representative of how distant the stock core V-F is set from what that core is really capable of.

 

[freeagent]

My 5900 is a pathetic sample when it comes to being corecycler stable

No one should listen to me when it comes to a 5900X and absolute stability.. seriously

My 5600X is cc stable at +150, but I give it +200 anyways because there are no problems

 

[Space Lynx]

My 5900 is a pathetic sample when it comes to being corecycler stable

No one should listen to me when it comes to a 5900X and absolute stability.. seriously

My 5600X is cc stable at +150, but I give it +200 anyways because there are no problems

yeah I noticed with ryzen 5600 i can pass everything I throw at it on oc's (including games for 3-4 hours) and then it will fail prime 95, but then its just like, well it passes everything else, so fuck prime95.

Actually Hardcore Overclocking on Youtube actually talked about this once, he said his home gaming rig actually won't pass prime95, but it doesn't matter for everything else.

I would prefer if it passed everything, but prime95 is just so unrealistic for casual users after 10-15 minutes, its like meh. don't care anymore.

 

[AusWolf]

Remember these words:

Hot=Acts like bronze! Cold=Acts like gold!

I just had a look at my event viewer to be safe... I don't have any WHEAs, but a lot of "DistributedCOM 10016" warnings. Is this something to be concerned about?