The Official Thermal Interface Material thread

freeagent · Jan 18, 2023

I am using SYY-157 on my 5600X, this application is about 6 months old now I guess.. still works good though..

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 18, 2023

I got a tube of TF7 for free with my PA120 SE.

Anything different/unusual about it?

It will be going on a 5800X3D.

My other option is an industrial paste that applies something like lithium grease mixed with hair gel... I should do a test of it vs others but I can't be bothered.

freeagent · Jan 18, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
I got a tube of TFX for free with my PA120 SE

Wow good deal do0d!

I think it was the best TIM I have used so far, but I only bought one tube.. I will have to get another one. I am using Ceramique on my X3D right now, and an old SYY application with my 5600X.

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 18, 2023

freeagent said:
Wow good deal do0d!

I think it was the best TIM I have used so far, but I only bought one tube.. I will have to get another one. I am using Ceramique on my X3D right now, and an old SYY application with my 5600X.

Oops, see edit above.

Brain.exe has suffered a memory buffer overflow.

freeagent · Jan 18, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
Oops, see edit above.

Brain.exe has suffered a memory buffer overflow.

TF7 is still pretty good tbh. It spreads easy and gives good, even results.

Hattu · Jan 18, 2023

For years I used Fischer Elektronik's WLPF-20(?) paste, for I got that free from my work. I thought that, if it's good for tram's high power motor driver parts, it should be good for my CPUs.

Well, I don't have access to it anymore. I've been using the pastes that came with two Noctua coolers and one Alphacool AIO after that. Haven't noticed any big differences in temps. Just regular use, no OC.

Years ago used that paste with i7 2600K+Megahalems cooler and OC'd it to 4.2 or 4.3GHz just changing the multiplier. Never tried above that, it was enough for me.

Are there any tests to be found with WLPF pastes?

Shrek · Jan 18, 2023

Fascinating
Home - Fischerelektronik, Product: WLPF 20

has a thermal conductivity of 0.5 W/m.K

Hattu · Jan 18, 2023

Shrek said:
Fascinating
Home - Fischerelektronik, Product: WLPF 20

has a thermal conductivity of 0.5 W/m.K

I noticed that too. But it worked great.

Hattu said:
I noticed that too. But it worked great.

It wasn't "the perfect" paste, as the oil (or something) separated if not used regularly or not shaken from time to time. But it did the cooling job fine. And by regularly I mean several months/allmost a year unused or untouched. They were in (too) big syringes and usage wasn't even weekly.

Maybe my use case is in lower reguirement class... So it doesn't really matter, what paste to use.

Still, it would be nice to see some reviews of it.

Shrek · Jan 18, 2023

SuperLube thermal paste has a thermal conductivity of 0.174 W/m.K

Technical_Data_Sheet_Heat_Sink_Thermally_Conductive_Compound.pdf (super-lube.com)

KLiKzg · Jan 19, 2023

Shrek said:
Fascinating
Home - Fischerelektronik, Product: WLPF 20

has a thermal conductivity of 0.5 W/m.K

But the WLPK has 10W/mK.

Shrek · Jan 19, 2023

I'm not sure thermal conductivity is the be all and end all

100W power
3 cm x 3 cm area
1/20th mm thickness
20 W/m.K thermal conductivity

results in a 0.28 °C drop

So even a thermal conductivity of 2 W/m.K would have just 2.8 °C drop

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 19, 2023

Shrek said:
I'm not sure thermal conductivity is the be all and end all

100W power

3 cm x 3 cm area

1/20th mm thickness

20 W/m.K thermal conductivity

results in a 0.28 °C drop

So even a thermal conductivity of 2 W/m.K would have just 2.8 °C drop

Bear in mind that the temperature differential is often quite large between the IHS and the baseplate.

lexluthermiester · Jan 19, 2023

Shrek said:
I'm not sure thermal conductivity is the be all and end all

100W power

3 cm x 3 cm area

1/20th mm thickness

20 W/m.K thermal conductivity

results in a 0.28 °C drop

So even a thermal conductivity of 2 W/m.K would have just 2.8 °C drop

There are soooooo many variables that go into thermal conductivity that talking about the numbers is nearly pointless. The proof is in the pudding, as they say, and real world testing is what counts.

Super Firm Tofu · Jan 19, 2023

freeagent said:
I am using SYY-157 on my 5600X, this application is about 6 months old now I guess.. still works good though..

View attachment 279763

Yup. That's now my go-to.

Running it on Zen3, Zen4, and Alder Lake. Smooooth Sailing.

Goes on like decadent silver buttercream frosting.

Mmmmm. Frosting.

freeagent · Jan 19, 2023

Super Firm Tofu said:
Yup. That's now my go-to.

Running it on Zen3, Zen4, and Alder Lake. Smooooth Sailing.

Goes on like decadent silver buttercream frosting.

Mmmmm. Frosting.

Yeah it’s good stuff, I tried to tell everyone I could.. pretty sure they got sick of it

Shrek · Jan 19, 2023

Which leads me to a question
Home - Fischerelektronik, Product: WLPF 20
is silicone-free

Why the dislike of silicone?

VeqIR · Jan 19, 2023

Probably the separation of oil from constituent heat-transferring particles?

ThrashZone · Jan 19, 2023

freeagent said:
Yeah it’s good stuff, I tried to tell everyone I could.. pretty sure they got sick of it

Hi,
Yeah I forgot I had that stuff already on my old laptop and put mx-6 on it the other day before I installed win-10 22h2 updates
Lets just say mx-6 isn't all that good there :/

Pictus · Jan 20, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I forgot I had that stuff already on my old laptop and put mx-6 on it the other day before I installed win-10 22h2 updates
Lets just say mx-6 isn't all that good there :/

Honeywell PTM7950 or some other PCM is what you should have used...

lexluthermiester · Jan 21, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I forgot I had that stuff already on my old laptop and put mx-6 on it the other day before I installed win-10 22h2 updates
Lets just say mx-6 isn't all that good there :/

Really? No problems here. I've already serviced several laptops with MX6..

jayjr1105 · Jan 26, 2023

GD-2 order came pretty quick... Not bad for $5 total, you even get a couple finger condoms

Pictus · Jan 26, 2023

jayjr1105 said:
GD-2 order came pretty quick... Not bad for $5 total, you even get a couple finger condoms

They usually send condoms when the paste is dense.
Good sign as I like dense pastes. :cool:

VeqIR · Jan 26, 2023

jayjr1105 said:
GD-2 order came pretty quick... Not bad for $5 total, you even get a couple finger condoms
View attachment 280956

Do report back on the performance and consistency/pump-out!

maxfly · Jan 27, 2023

I just used tf7 for the first time but I have no point of reference as its a new build (13700k). Temps seem fine so far, idling around 35-37c with a pa120 and quiet curve. Haven't had anytime to do more than install w11 and the usual apps but am hoping to put it through it's paces this weekend. Then it's on to wcing, ugh.

KLiKzg · Jan 27, 2023

Pictus said:
They usually send condoms when the paste is dense.
Good sign as I like dense pastes.

No, those are ESD fingertips, to protect the MBO circuits while installing.

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