Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

[lexluthermiester]

I am currently runing 4.1 at 1.25 volts. Probably a bit conservative but 4.2 hit the current limit and I got tired of playing with it yesterday. At my current settings when i am playing games it gets up to like 82C, in some cases a couple of cores hit 90 which I don't want. I have the power capped actually at 120 watts cause I don't care if it throttles because it won't throttle when playing games which is what I want more performance from. Might turn it up to 145 though. Also my orignal goal was 4.5 ghz is there any way for me to hit that?

When I tried to run 4.2 yesterday it would instantly crash when opening pretty much any program

Ok, maybe I've been lucky then... Still, 4.1ghz at 1.25v is not bad.

 

[386]

I just tried 4.2 at 1.25. I increased the PP0 current limit from 170 to 190. It ran for 5 minutes (I tried out MInecraft just to make it do stuff) and then blue screened. A couple of times when it has bluescreened the fan goes to like 100%. Is that just a software bug or is the CPU actually heating up?

 

[unclewebb]

bluescreened

That is not a software bug. That is a not enough voltage bug.

is the CPU actually heating up?

What temperatures are reported?

 

[386]

Its weird people say its easy getting the chip to 4.5 but I can't even get it to 4.2

That is not a software bug. That is a not enough voltage bug.


What temperatures are reported?

Well when in games the cores that are utilized get to like 82-85. Also I am running 1.25 volts, I don't feel comforatble pushing it more to be honest. Only thing is I have it set at adaptive maybe I should change it to static
My question is not why its bluescreening but why is the fan kicking up when it bluescreens

 

[lexluthermiester]

Its weird people say its easy getting the chip to 4.5 but I can't even get it to 4.2

Silicon lottery sometimes sucks. To be fair 4.1ghz is not shabby.

 

[frankr2994]

My question is not why its bluescreening but why is the fan kicking up when it bluescreens

I always assumed it was a failsafe. When it errors out it no longer knows what's going on so it goes into protection mode.

 

[386]

Alright guys i got 4.3 at 1.31 volts stable. Now I am moving on to cache overclocking, and immediately I cannot get the uncore ratio to go beyond stock. Do lots of OEM systems simply forbid uncore OC?

 

[frankr2994]

Alright guys i got 4.3 at 1.31 volts stable. Now I am moving on to cache overclocking, and immediately I cannot get the uncore ratio to go beyond stock. Do lots of OEM systems simply forbid uncore OC?

Stock with mine is 30. I can do 35 and then stupid unstable at 36. My benchmark scores are better when it's left at 30 . So I can't find a good reason to push it other than it starts to make a lot more heat.

 

[386]

Stock with mine is 30. I can do 35 and then stupid unstable at 36. My benchmark scores are better when it's left at 30 . So I can't find a good reason to push it other than it starts to make a lot more heat.

I got it to work. Tried 33 and 34. It just makes the thing way way too hot and it is just unsafe. I did it because people say it can increase minimum FPS in games, but it seems like until I get a beefier cooler I won't be doing it. What about RAM OC though, is there anyway to do that in Windows?

 

[brandon99]

So, from what I've read through here and through my testing with the t3600 it appears that the t3600 will not overclock any CPUs? I attempted the Xeon e5 1650v1, an unlocked chip, with no success on both xtu and throttlestop.

Yet it seems the similar t3610 does overclock?

PS: for anyone that ends up with one of those Dell's with a handle on the side panel, if you want to install a bigger gpu the handle breaks off pretty easy if you whack it with a hammer.

 

[frankr2994]

So, from what I've read through here and through my testing with the t3600 it appears that the t3600 will not overclock any CPUs? I attempted the Xeon e5 1650v1, an unlocked chip, with no success on both xtu and throttlestop.

PS: for anyone that ends up with one of those Dell's with a handle on the side panel, if you want to install a bigger gpu the handle breaks off pretty easy if you whack it with a hammer.

Shouldn't be true. Don't have that system in front of me but helped someone recently. TS couldn't do it for some reason but he was able to overclock it with an older version of xtu

 

[brandon99]

Shouldn't be true. Don't have that system in front of me but helped someone recently. TS couldn't do it for some reason but he was able to overclock it with an older version of xtu

Any idea which version? I'm gonna try to factory reset the PC and get throttlestop and the newer version of xtu off it and use 5.2.0.1.4 since someone had success with that on a t3610 but I'm not too hopeful.

Do you remember if c states in the bios or anything needed changed? Or just a sleep hack?

 

[frankr2994]

So, from what I've read through here and through my testing with the t3600 it appears that the t3600 will not overclock any CPUs? I attempted the Xeon e5 1650v1, an unlocked chip, with no success on both xtu and throttlestop.

Yet it seems the similar t3610 does overclock?

PS: for anyone that ends up with one of those Dell's with a handle on the side panel, if you want to install a bigger gpu the handle breaks off pretty easy if you whack it with a hammer.

Any idea which version? I'm gonna try to factory reset the PC and get throttlestop and the newer version of xtu off it and use 5.2.0.1.4 since someone had success with that on a t3610 but I'm not too hopeful.

Do you remember if c states in the bios or anything needed changed? Or just a sleep hack?

I'll look it up. I don't believe the sleep hack was needed

Damn. T3610 not a 3600. But it was version 7.4.1.3 that he used

 

[brandon99]

I'll look it up. I don't believe the sleep hack was needed

Damn. T3610 not a 3600. But it was version 7.4.1.3 that he used

Dang, see another t3610 success story. I'll try that same version though and give it a shot but yeah so far I haven't seen any successful posts with the t3600, but it seems like those are rarer?

 

[frankr2994]

Dang, see another t3610 success story. I'll try that same version though and give it a shot but yeah so far I haven't seen any successful posts with the t3600, but it seems like those are rarer?

Hey if you upgrade to another used Dell my 5810 overclocks very nice lol.

 

[brandon99]

Hey if you upgrade to another used Dell my 5810 overclocks very nice lol.

Haha good to know. My main rig for a while has been x99 based, have a x99 EVGA mico board and a xeon e5 1660v3 at 4.6ghz lol.

Bought this t3600 to flip and fool around with, just didn't realize until I got it I picked seemingly the one that doesn't have much overclocking fun to do. Also been having issues with the SAS controller being unsupported in Windows 10 driver wise, so it's so far been limited to only the 2 SATA ports.

 

[frankr2994]

Hey still testing but I think I just made the first successful bios mod geared towards overclocking a dell precision. I managed to turn overclock lock off on a dell t7810 for someone. Going to try to remove all the wattage and current limitations. And here at some point I'm going to flash my 5810 with said mods to see If I can rip this 1680v3 a little higher. Everything is still going to revolve around using TS though. Its just TS won't have any restrictions

Except I think I just fried my motherboard pulling a dump off the bios chip...


ok I didn't. lol. I tried to pull a new bios dump from my board. Only reading it no mods. And it totally bricked the pc. acted similar to not having it plugged into the wall. I can't explain why but I ended up flashing the bios chip with an older file I had and now Its working again.

 

[frankr2994]

@unclewebb does TS have support for dual CPU configs? T7810 modded bios. I have oc, msr, and bios locks disabled. Able to clock 1 CPU to max all core turbo easy. Can not find a way to apply to both CPUs. 2nd CPU continues to run at stock clocks with multiplier settings unchanged according to hwmonitor.

 

[unclewebb]

does TS have support for dual CPU configs?

Not that I know of. Without access to a dual CPU computer, I never bothered to add dual CPU support to ThrottleStop.

I sent you a link to download a beta version. Maybe the beta version can access both CPUs.

Edit - I seem to remember someone running two separate versions of ThrottleStop, one version for each CPU. You might have to rename ThrottleStop.exe to something slightly different like ThrottleStop1.exe and ThrottleStop2.exe. Create two separate versions and two separate folders.

 

[frankr2994]

Not that I know of. Without access to a dual CPU computer, I never bothered to add dual CPU support to ThrottleStop.

I sent you a link to download a beta version. Maybe the beta version can access both CPUs.

Edit - I seem to remember someone running two separate versions of ThrottleStop, one version for each CPU. You might have to rename ThrottleStop.exe to something slightly different like ThrottleStop1.exe and ThrottleStop2.exe. Create two separate versions and two separate folders.

will give both shots a try and report back. thanks!

 

[Retrorockit]

I don't think there has been a multiplier unlocked 2CPU prcessor since the Skulltrai QX9775 LGA771 l stuff. There was an unlocked BIOS LGA1366 multi-CPU Motherboard. board. EVGA SR-2 But other than that not much 2 CPU overclocking. Some tweaks with SetFSB. But that was Dell T7500 at OCN.
There was the tapemod to switch LGA771 CPus to LGA775. Electrically it should work the other way also. Spoof an unlocked LGA775 to run on LGA771. Istarted to try it but somebody was buting up all the Dell T7400 workssations at the time

 

[frankr2994]

I don't think there has been a multiplier unlocked 2CPU prcessor since the Skulltrai QX9775 LGA771 l stuff. There was an unlocked BIOS LGA1366 multi-CPU Motherboard. board. EVGA SR-2 But other than that not much 2 CPU overclocking. Some tweaks with SetFSB. But that was Dell T7500 at OCN.

this is not an unlocked cpu lmao. This started as wanting to do a micro code mod. however lifting the locks out of the bios and I think its the MSR lock that really does it. it lets the clock go up. past 3.2ghz which is the turbo speed. so basically becoming an unlocked cpu. no haswell microcode mod has been applied yet. trying to see if we even need to do it.

 

[unclewebb]

I totally missed out on Haswell EP overclocking with an early microcode. I think it is still on my bucket list. I might go look at the local buy and sell again.

Post some ThrottleStop screenshots if you get this figured out.

 

[Retrorockit]

I thought you were trying a TS overclock on 2 CPUs.

 

[frankr2994]

I thought you were trying a TS overclock on 2 CPUs.

Thats correct....but its not an unlocked cpu. don't ask me how lol. I didn't expect this to be working

so running the program in 2 instances works.