The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

[Thimblewad]

The only problem I have with my 6800 XT since the day I got it is not being able to use 16xAF. 8x works fine, but putting it to 16x just disables it completely. Does anyone have the same issue? A friend has the same issue on a 6700 XT, so I believe it's totally a driver bug. And god damn it I really want my nice looking textures, AMD please fix

 

[GamerGuy]

Still working on my 2nd rig, but as Dr Frankenstein had so maniacally proclaimed, "It's alive!"

Not really concerned about cable management as the case has no side widow.....everything's hidden from sight!

 

[AusWolf]

6750XT is easily 230W, at least in the case of Sapphire Nitro+.

By 200 W, I mean GPU chip only power consumption on the reference model. The whole card is rated at 250 W as far as I know, although there is no way to measure that in software.

I've just tested the new driver with Superposition. There is a 1% increase in the final score, although I saw something interesting while monitoring the card. Namely, clock speeds seem to be more stable than they were, but the GPU voltage fluctuates a bit more. I guess 23.2.1 prioritizes clock speed over voltage stability, while it was the other way around with 22.11.2. I'm not sure how a driver can affect such things, but it apparently can.

Another thing I've noticed is that the only thing that annoyed me is gone. When I was watching a Youtube video with the old driver, and did something that involved the GPU, for example, moved the mouse over the video, put it to full screen, or switched tabs with the video playing, the video paused for a fraction of a second. Now it doesn't.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Easily 230W in the case of Nitro+ for GPU power alone.

 

[AusWolf]

Easily 230W in the case of Nitro+ for GPU power alone.

That's the Nitro+. Like I said, mine is an AMD reference card. The ROG Strix 5700 XT I used to have easily ate more power at the GPU than my 6750 XT does.

 

[Kodehawa]

I've seen a FPS increase to back up the increased power consumption, that's for sure. About 10 in RDR2 and about 5~8 on BL3. Don't have 3DMark Advanced Edition to run anything but Time Spy to compare.

EDIT: Metro Exodus using RT lightning has a way higher FPS. What is going on here lmao, did AMD optimize RT?

This is using the FSR mod with FSR quality, though. Without FSR its 60~67fps. But this part was at <70fps before this update (about 45 w/o FSR). They really made RT considerably faster lol. RT high, RT lightning on.
(The frametime spike is because of the picture)

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

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This is using the FSR mod with FSR quality, though. Without FSR its 60~67fps. But this part was at <70fps before this update (about 45 w/o FSR). They really made RT considerably faster lol. RT high, RT lightning on.
(The frametime spike is because of the picture)

Should Nvidia get scared?!

 

[Kodehawa]

Should Nvidia get scared?!

I don't know. Can a 6700XT beat a 3060ti on RT now? Or a 6800 a 3070? Would be pretty funny, but I have no means to make comparisons.

What is with the stupid increase though? I've seen people on reddit and other places get about 30~40% more RT performance in some scenarios. What kind of witchcraft is this?

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Yeah, hard limit (well, max PPT) is 170W on mines, MPT. 160W without MPT.
Didn't even reach the latter before on most games.

IIRC, that means you need "jailbreak" VBIOS, just like Navi1! I used the wrong tool versions (grossly out of date) and bricked my RX 5600 XT in December, 2021, because I tried to reapply it without the proper mod procedure. In early-'21, I had it working golden in GTA V.

 

[Kodehawa]

IIRC, that means you need "jailbreak" VBIOS, just like Navi1!

Nah. I can increase PPT to oblivion if I want. I made it draw 200W with Time Spy.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Nah. I can increase PPT to oblivion if I want. I made it draw 200W with Time Spy.

Heard that without a VBIOS mod, trying to override the limits, results in GPU core going to 300 MHz or lower!

 

[Kodehawa]

Heard that without a VBIOS mod, trying to override the limits, results in GPU core going to 300 MHz or lower!

Nah, not PPT.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Nah, not PPT.

That's for overriding the max frequencies, where that issue is known to occur.

 

[Kodehawa]

That's for overriding the max frequencies, where that issue is known to occur.

Yeah I cannot test that. I can't max out the slider as I crash before the slider would max out (2750 out of 2800). You could look around or let's see if someone else has the answer for frequencies.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Yeah I cannot test that. I can't max out the slider as I crash before the slider would max out (2750 out of 2800). You could look around or let's see if someone else has the answer for frequencies.

On my RX 5600XT, I couldn't even select where it becomes unstable, because it would only let me select "1820", (or 1860) which in reality is only 1.76 GHz! And I don't crash until at least around 2.06 GHz or around 1.97 GHz. The limits are a lot different than your case. My issue was that they locked the card, which seems unlike AMD!

 

[Kodehawa]

My issue was that they locked the card, which seems unlike AMD!

RDNA3 is a lot more locked down than RDNA2 or 1. I guess they're going the lockdown route too.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

RDNA3 is a lot more locked down than RDNA2 or 1. I guess they're going the lockdown route too.

Is it more locked down than Nvidia now? Did all their cards turn into "the A320 of cards"?! Does AMD think they are the "2012-2016 Intel"?!

The meme of Intel from 2012-2016: "Lock lock lock lock lock lock"

 

[Kodehawa]

Is it more locked down than Nvidia now? Did all their cards turn into "the A320 of cards"?! Does AMD think they are the "2012-2016 Intel"?!

The meme of Intel from 2012-2016: "Lock lock lock lock lock lock"

No RDNA 3 Update for More Power Tool, Says Developer

Locking down the power tables

www.tomshardware.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617634181043073025

 

[Lew Zealand]

On my RX 5600XT, I couldn't even select where it becomes unstable, because it would only let me select "1820", (or 1860) which in reality is only 1.76 GHz! And I don't crash until at least around 2.06 GHz or around 1.97 GHz. The limits are a lot different than your case. My issue was that they locked the card, which seems unlike AMD!

The 5600 XT was a carefully tailored card to a price point. One to take care of the 1660 Super/Ti and later to challenge the 2060, but not eat into the 5700's market share. Letting us freely overclock it would have decimated the 5700's sales as it has the identical core structure. An overclockable 5600 XT would been especially competitive in non-memory bandwidth-restricted games.

From a business perspective I appreciate what they had to do at $280 versus $350 for the 5700. Though from the Pulse 5600 XT owner's perspective of course it's annoying.

I looked into jailbreaking it but I didn't want to potentially fail during the GPU shortage, though more recently I don't depend on it so that's tempting now…

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Now, who has more video OC'ing restrictions? Nvidia or AMD?

 

[AusWolf]

Now, who has more video OC'ing restrictions? Nvidia or AMD?

I think the AMD overclocking menu has got more complicated if anything in the new driver (on RDNA 2). I don't understand what the "locking" is all about. It doesn't seem locked to me, quite the opposite in fact.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Well, looks like if I stay with team Radeon, it will be nothing less than a Sapphire Nitro+, pretty much! I suspect some card builders have more restrictive VBIOSes!

 

[AusWolf]

Well, looks like if I stay with team Radeon, it will be nothing less than a Sapphire Nitro+, pretty much! I suspect some card builders have more restrictive VBIOSes!

I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. What's all the fuss about? Isn't this what RDNA 3 owners see?

 

[3x0]

I think the AMD overclocking menu has got more complicated if anything in the new driver (on RDNA 2).

What's new in the new driver, all seems the same to me?

The "lock down" is referring to RDNA 3 and MorePowerTool only, as in MPT won't work with RDNA 3. The OC options in the drivers are the same between RDNA 2 and 3

 

[AusWolf]

What's new in the new driver, all seems the same to me?

Sorry, my bad... I've got an extra option to auto-overclock my CPU and a link to download Ryzen Master which I didn't see before.

As for GPU OC options, nothing has changed.

The "lock down" is referring to RDNA 3 and MorePowerTool only, as in MPT won't work with RDNA 3. The OC options in the drivers are the same between RDNA 2 and 3

So RDNA 3 owners will now have to OC through the driver instead of downloading an extra program that does the same? Poor souls!