Microsoft Will Force Windows 10 22H2 Upgrades Next Month

[T0@st]

Microsoft is determined to get the entirety of its Windows 10 userbase onto the final version - 22H2 - by early summer. Older iterations including 21H2 (issued in November of 2021), will not receive official support beyond the date: June 13 2023. The announcement crept out quietly last week, via the company's Learn Documentation center: "Home, Pro, Pro Education, and Pro for Workstations editions of Windows 10, version 21H2 will reach end of servicing. The upcoming June 2023 security update, to be released on June 13, 2023, will be the last update available for these versions. After this date, devices running these version will no longer receive monthly security and preview updates containing protections from the latest security threats."

The reminder does not give specific details about rollout timings, but news outlets reckon that OS-focused enforcements will begin in early June: "To help keep you protected and productive, Windows Update will automatically initiate a feature update for Windows 10 consumer devices and non-managed business devices that are at, or within several months of, reaching end of servicing. This keeps your device supported and receiving monthly updates that are critical to security and ecosystem health. For these devices, you will be able to choose a convenient time for your device to restart and complete the update." Microsoft provides further advice and recommends that users update (manually) to version 2H22 at the earliest opportunity, or take the larger step of transferring to Windows 11. Last month TPU reported on a similar official advisory blog entry, where the author/product manager (in effect) proposed "that current Windows 10 users move to 11 as soon as possible, in order to enjoy a continued stream of feature updates."



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[Mr. Perfect]

I can't remember any noticeable difference between 21H2 and 22H2 other than the number. When 10 first came out, new builds made huge changes, but the last couple have basically been update rollups.

 

[chrcoluk]

Read a zdnet article somewhere, the way it was written it felt like was input from Microsoft, it was suggesting the reason for 11 existing, was a mixture of the following.

1 - 10 Was a stagnant OS for a decade, and the OS needed to move on.
2 - Old hardware is the cause of many of the security issues so as such, the only way to solve them was to ditch support for that hardware.
3 - Releasing a new OS would allow Microsoft to rollout new technology.

Amusing as 10 unlike previous versions of windows had major feature updates, install the original windows 10 and compare it to the latest version, massive changes, enough that would normally warrant a new version of windows. The article was written like feature updates are a new thing in 11.

The hardware changes mentioned I felt were a misnomer, I understand for developers supporting old hardware means more work load, but be real about it, just openly state you no longer want to support the hardware, dont pretend that hardware pre dated TPM 2.0 is the major cause of security problems. The biggest issues are the security model in windows. Examples being, routinely executables are ran from temp locations, from user data folders, and we still in 2023 have the default accounts as administrators. The model of using things like svchost and rundll32 is a haven for malware authors as well.

I still think its a combination of working with hardware vendors to increase their sales via obsoleting hardware past a certain age, and a way to push their latest copycat Mac OS UI on to people.

The good news is LTSC will keep 10 around for a little longer supported, and there is a explorer patcher out there now that can bring back much of the W10 UI in 11. But of course 11 wont live as long as 10 did, so who knows what further disaster will happen to the UI in 12.

I can't remember any noticeable difference between 21H2 and 22H2 other than the number. When 10 first came out, new builds made huge changes, but the last couple have basically been update rollups.

Yep, windows was basically reinstalled as the changes were so massive, thats why the setup screen was displayed and was so slow, but I noticed when I updated a VM from 21H1 to 21H2 it was merely a short patching process.

 

[AusWolf]

What if I install an older version after this date? Will I be able to update to 22H2 via Windows Update?

 

[mechtech]

"microsoft will force windows 10 22h2 upgrades next month"

 

[AusWolf]

"microsoft will force windows 10 22h2 upgrades next month"

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I am praying for sure. When a Windows 11 update is forced, it'll be the time for me to learn more about gaming on Linux.

 

[L'Eliminateur]

I am praying for sure. When a Windows 11 update is forced, it'll be the time for me to learn more about gaming on Linux.

i'm going to keep using windows 10 way past it's MS-sanctioned "expiration" date, i don't give a flying assf about their "security updates", I AM the security my PC needs.

i'll stop using it when either steam/games/firefox stop supporting win10, and we know that will be much further than the 2025 end of support for regular win10 due to LTSC commitments.

so screw MS and their winshit11 slow trash

 

[Paganstomp]

MS-DOS and Direct X 9 gaming forever!

 

[Vayra86]

I can't remember any noticeable difference between 21H2 and 22H2 other than the number. When 10 first came out, new builds made huge changes, but the last couple have basically been update rollups.

I'm loving the state of that, and of 10 in general. Nothing needs changing.

 

[Mr. Perfect]

I'm loving the state of that, and of 10 in general. Nothing needs changing.

Yep! 10 is quite steady these days. Best part is 22H2 is the last version for 10, so we can just ride this build off into the sunset.

 

[ymdhis]

I'm not switching to Win11 until they put back everything they took out. They rewrote the taskbar from scratch and it can't do half the shit the old one could. The Start Menu is even stupider; did they not learn from Win8 that if they fuck with that, it will be met with huge opposition?

 

[GunShot]

Yeah, for my family personal usage and privacy, this is the final nail in the coffin for me from M$.

M$ markets (stupidly) heavy that its Window's ecosystem is about SECURITY/PRIVACY ***FIRST*** but... uhm... for weeks now (maybe even for months, I'm super surprised that "Tech" [really] Power Up has refused to cover this very serious exposure) it was recently confirmed that Windows has broken ALL VPNs securities and Windows is also forcing internet timeouts (IP leakage), super slow speeds (compromised tunnels), etc. (intentionally??? - MS has the no.1 amount of billions of dollars of government's software, etc. contracts in the world) and once MS were exposed for their behavior, MS only rebuttal to this very serious situation is - "We know about it"... WTF?!?!

 

[THU31]

I am praying for sure. When a Windows 11 update is forced, it'll be the time for me to learn more about gaming on Linux.

I doubt that can happen as long as you have TPM or Secure Boot disabled.

When I buy a new SSD in a while, I'll try Win 11 and dual boot for a while. That's what I always do with a new system after waiting for a few years since release. Most problems are usually resolved by then.

Although I hope Win 12 actually comes out before Win 10's end of life. That should be a good system, looking back at the entire history of Windows.

 

[64K]

hmmm.....it's so out of character for MS to force anything.

/s

 

[Vayra86]

I'm not switching to Win11 until they put back everything they took out. They rewrote the taskbar from scratch and it can't do half the shit the old one could. The Start Menu is even stupider; did they not learn from Win8 that if they fuck with that, it will be met with huge opposition?

I think this one is tailored for the boomers and Gen Z instead. My parents appear to like 11.

Milennials and the rest in between are screwed, like with most things these days

 

[chrcoluk]

MS-DOS and Direct X 9 gaming forever!

Dont trash DX9, most games I play still use it and SGSSAA works on it, far better than TAA.

 

[lemonadesoda]

Thinking of rolling back to W2K3 for Workstation. One location for Settings. Snappy. I am the Master. No autoupdates. Just missing DX11/12.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I am praying for sure. When a Windows 11 update is forced, it'll be the time for me to learn more about gaming on Linux.

It’s not really too bad with Steam and Proton.

 

[95Viper]

Stick to the topic.
Thank You.

 

[LabRat 891]

Does this mean there will be a 22H2 LTSC update too?
Since, this is to be 'the final' W10 build?

Last reinstall, I went with 'normal' Windows 10 Pro instead of LTSC to get 22H2.

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎11/‎11/‎2022
OS build 19045.2728
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0

Didn't realize I 'did the repeating digits' thing, again:
22H2, installed 11 / 11 / 22

 

[mechtech]

I'm not switching to Win11 until they put back everything they took out. They rewrote the taskbar from scratch and it can't do half the shit the old one could. The Start Menu is even stupider; did they not learn from Win8 that if they fuck with that, it will be met with huge opposition?

Could always use classic shell or start 11.......................3rd party software..................fixing windows since version 8

 

[LabRat 891]

Could always use classic shell or start 11.......................3rd party software..................fixing windows since version 8

I actually got in trouble at work for putting Classic Shell on customers' New PCs.
No, I didn't just automatically put it on, it only was installed if the customer explicitly was complaining about Win8+'s new interface.
Many a time, Classic Shell was what 'sold' a bundled PC and services. So, Whatever...

I was both surprised and amused to find out that Classic Shell was made by the same company as my favorite 4X strategy game; Sins of a Solar Empire, by Stardock Software.

 

[95Viper]

Last warning...
Stick to the topic.
Thank You.

 

[A&P211]

I never liked win 11, I still prefer 7.

 

[TechLurker]

Still running a 95, 98, 2000, XP, and Win7 across several old computers. The Win7 being a personal fave of mine due to having the Signature Edition OS version (basically Win7 Ultimate with a few extras, including an exclusive Signature Edition Theme), and being the first PC I built from scratch. A Win10 serves as my forced-upgrade mainstay (couldn't get Win7 working on Ryzen 3000 series), and will probably remain that way until Win12 (assuming it follows the MS cadence of Horrible OS, Great OS, Horrible OS, Great OS, with Win11 being a Horrible OS).