AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D to be Exclusive Micro Center Product in the US

[Tek-Check]

Needed to be $199 at most. This reject 5800X3D costing more than the 5800X is a joke.

The same was said last year when 5800X3D was released as "heavily overpriced". And yet, it sold out like hot cakes from day one and it's still one of the best selling gaming CPUs.

5600X3D is so limited offer that it will sell out fast, stand-alone or bundled. No brainer.

Just found the 5800X3D for 240$. It is getting very tempting.

Why do you have a communist flag on your profile? Does it stand for anything?

This CPU is needed in emergent markets

Dude, there might be less than a few thousands of these. Don't make a storm in a cup of tea. Silly.

 

[rv8000]

Considering a 7600 is within 1% at 1440p and 1080 of the 5800X3D, not really worth buying unless you’re sticking with AM4.

Gotta clear out those failed 5800X3Ds though

 

[A&P211]

If America isn't wealthy then we are in deeeeep my friend

But there's very valid reasons to release Chinese-only SKUs due to market conditions, a Micro Center specific, extremely desirable budget SKU makes little sense when anyone with access to an MC can get insane deals on the really good stuff already. I have a friend from TX that got a Ryzen 7900X, a Strix B650E-E and a 32 GB DDR5-6000 RAM kit for $699. You can't buy that CPU alone for that much in most of the world due to import duties.

It really depends on your defination of wealthy, but overall The US is not really wealthy. It only looks wealthy.

 

[Divide Overflow]

How long before the forums are flooded with messages attempting to hack their 5600x3d into a 5800x3d?

 

[Footman]

What's the point, with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D only $50 more and Intel's Core i5-13400F at $220, I can't really see a spot for this cpu.

 

[TechLurker]

Either way, not sure I would want a CPU born out of the reject bin.

That's basically any Ryzen SKU that isn't a #950X though. #800X chips have single CCDs that weren't efficient enough for #950X, while #700X are binned chips that failed to meet the minimum limits for #800X. Then #600X and #900X chips both use CCDs that not only failed to qualify for the top binning, but also had one or two defective cores (if they weren't deliberately fused off), with the better quality 6-core CCDs going to #900X.

The whole thing about Ryzen was that it maximized use of the reject bin. Ryzen focused on bins for performance, while EPYC focused on bins for efficiency (TR used to pull from the Ryzen stock, but now pulls from the EPYC stock with their Prosumer focus and complete shift away from part-time gaming). Both recycled their rejects down the line, and even the worst of them with 2 functional cores and no SMT were utilized in Athlon budget CPUs.

 

[Tek-Check]

What's the point, with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D only $50 more and Intel's Core i5-13400F at $220, I can't really see a spot for this cpu.

You will need to use a basic tool of human mind - imagination, to see a spot for this CPU in its tiny limited release to local buyers.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Where?

In Japan.

 

[Minus Infinity]

And what about other markets? What will the allocation be say in Australia or EU or South America?

 

[Aretak]

And what about other markets? What will the allocation be say in Australia or EU or South America?

Zero. Gamers Nexus already covered this in their video. AMD are only doing one run of these, because that's all the defective dies they have available to make them. Their yields are good enough that they simply don't have a large inventory of failed silicon on hand, and they clearly don't want to go back to the Phenom II days when they were using perfectly good dies that could have gone into higher tier products in low-end SKUs just to meet demand (which resulted in people being able to unlock perfectly functional extra cores in the BIOS).

That's why Micro Center have got an exclusive on it - it's a limited edition product that will come and go within a very short time period. The alternative was just throwing the dies in the trash, so I'm not sure what all the complaining is about. People apparently just don't like anybody else getting something if they can't have it too, and would rather nobody got anything.

 

[LabRat 891]

I ain't upgrading away from AM4 anytime soon, and have already enjoyed several upgrades since I built my system.
R5 3600->R5 5600, RX580X->6500XT->16GB Vega+6500XT, RAID0 Gen3 NVME->quad non-RAID Gen4 NVMe. Heck, I don't think there's an AM5 board with the expandability X570 offered! -at least not at a similar price-point.
If I (still) lived near-ish a MicroCenter, I'd be grabbing one of these and a 'spare' X570 board. I certainly had hoped this wasn't a limited/exclusive 'run'. Especially, since AMD had (more/less) promised more X3D on AM4 than just the 5800X3D...

These 5600X3Ds will probably end up a Curio/Relic for enthusiast-collectors.
Me, I'll probably just end up w/ a 5800X3D on their final price drop before being retired from retail-channel sales (guessing, Holidays 2023?)

 

[80-watt Hamster]

They way these are priced, it looks like Microcenter would probably prefer people buy it in one of their bundles, rather than as a standalone product.

Got it in one.

 

[A Computer Guy]

I ain't upgrading away from AM4 anytime soon, and have already enjoyed several upgrades since I built my system.
R5 3600->R5 5600, RX580X->6500XT->16GB Vega+6500XT, RAID0 Gen3 NVME->quad non-RAID Gen4 NVMe. Heck, I don't think there's an AM5 board with the expandability X570 offered! -at least not at a similar price-point.
If I (still) lived near-ish a MicroCenter, I'd be grabbing one of these and a 'spare' X570 board. I certainly had hoped this wasn't a limited/exclusive 'run'. Especially, since AMD had (more/less) promised more X3D on AM4 than just the 5800X3D...

These 5600X3Ds will probably end up a Curio/Relic for enthusiast-collectors.
Me, I'll probably just end up w/ a 5800X3D on their final price drop before being retired from retail-channel sales (guessing, Holidays 2023?)

5800x3d is already dipping below $300 on Amazon. I'm tempted to snap one up since I have another AM4 board on the shelf. It seems if AMD cpu pricing trends continue once supply reaches a certain point on the next gen you won't be able to get as good a deal on the last gen. For example many 3000 parts (new) are fairly highly priced now compared to the 5000 parts available now, and the same thing happened with the 2000 parts after the release of 5000 series. In other words there wasn't a very linar price reduction going backwards through the zen models. Get the deals when they are hot. I think 5800x3d won't ever dip as low as $250 ever so just under $300 will be as good as it gets. Here grab it while it's hot https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5800X3D-16-Thread-Processor-Technology/dp/B09VCJ2SHD/ref=sr_1_2

I was wondering if anyone knows off hand if the X3D parts benefit emulation such as PS2 or PS3 emulation?

 

[solarmystic]

I was wondering if anyone knows off hand if the X3D parts benefit emulation such as PS2 or PS3 emulation?

I can't speak for PS2 emulation, but with regards to PS3 (rpcs3) emulation, 3D VCache does not benefit it one bit, at least on Zen 3, when comparing the 5800X3D vs the 5800X. The 5800X wins out due to increased clock speeds which rpcs3 does benefit from.

With Zen 4 however, it does improve performance over non X3D parts noticeably in certain games depending on the bottleneck. The 7950X3D/7800X3D are among the fastest CPUs you can buy for that emulator right now, beating their 13th gen Intel counterparts in those games. The true undefeated champs are the 12900K/12700K with AVX 512 though.

Link to the rpcs3 CPU tier list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...fwTSKWvJH7X63kExsVxHnT2Mc/edit#gid=1013362381

 

[eidairaman1]

If they sell well, AMD may release to the global market, there is ebay as well. I got a 5800 oem off ebay and had it tested immediately, its been perfect since 21.

What's the point, with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D only $50 more and Intel's Core i5-13400F at $220, I can't really see a spot for this cpu.

Intel doesn't just throw cpus away, why would AMD!?

 

[trparky]

Either way, not sure I would want a CPU born out of the reject bin.

Considering that AMD has suggested that there's only a three to six month supply of these chips (depending upon demand), what happens if you need a new chip under warranty and there's none left?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Considering that AMD has suggested that there's only a three to six month supply of these chips (depending upon demand), what happens if you need a new chip under warranty and there's none left?

They will likely have a reserve of these CPUs for RMA purposes. If/when that reserve expires, it's likely they will offer you a slight upgrade in its stead, or a refund.

 

[AusWolf]

Does it mean it's USA only? Or does it mean that Microcenter will be the only retailer in the USA while worldwide distribution will be handled by others?

 

[LabRat 891]

Does it mean it's USA only? Or does it mean that Microcenter will be the only retailer in the USA while worldwide distribution will be handled by others?

At least from GamersNexus' video, it's directly stated that it is *both* US-only and MicroCenter-only.
According to MicroCenter's product page for the 5600X3D, it will become availible for sale on the 7th.

Available on Jul 07,2023

Kinda lame, but this absolutely would prevent any 'scale' cannibalization of other product/platform sales.

Part of me can't help but be cynical, myself:
I don't believe AMD.
I think 5600X3D, 5900X3D, and 5950X3D were all planned and viable SKUs, but production ended up 'behind' and too close to AM5's release.
IMO, AMD 'truncated' the AM4 X3D lineup @ the 5800X3D to keep the attention on AM5.

In years to come, we'll (hopefully) find out the truth.

 

[R-T-B]

Well considering it will be faster than the 5800x in most games that makes sense

No, it wouldn't be?

EDIT: ignore this, misread "5800x" as "5800x3d" like a dummy.

 

[Denver]

On a beautiful sunny day someone at AMD thought "Oh God... What am I going to do with this dozen of defective 5800x3d? Well, I'll send it to my friends at MicroCenter!"

Assuming it's just a defective 5800x3D, stock must be very limited, hence the exclusivity.

 

[LabRat 891]

On a beautiful sunny day someone at AMD thought "Oh God... What am I going to do with this dozen of defective 5800x3d? Well, I'll send it to my friends at MicroCenter!"

Assuming it's just a defective 5800x3D, stock must be very limited, hence the exclusivity.

Again, me being cynical, but:
It easily could be AMD mitigating and managing the release to not distract from new-platform sales, while also 'gauging demand' and liquidating defective 5800X3Ds.

I have no hope for more AM4 releases (beyond embed/industrial), but AMD may factor-in the 'response' to this release as part of their strategy in AM5.
IMO: Being able to 'stir-up sales, on-demand' towards the end of a platform's life, would be 'a neat profitable trick to have in one's back pocket'.

 

[AusWolf]

At least from GamersNexus' video, it's directly stated that it is *both* US-only and MicroCenter-only.
According to MicroCenter's product page for the 5600X3D, it will become availible for sale on the 7th.



Kinda lame, but this absolutely would prevent any 'scale' cannibalization of other product/platform sales.

Shame. I think this CPU is a lot more suited to less developed areas where people don't already have a 5800X3D.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Part of me can't help but be cynical, myself:
I don't believe AMD.
I think 5600X3D, 5900X3D, and 5950X3D were all planned and viable SKUs, but production ended up 'behind' and too close to AM5's release.
IMO, AMD 'truncated' the AM4 X3D lineup @ the 5800X3D to keep the attention on AM5.

In years to come, we'll (hopefully) find out the truth.

Planned, viable, completed AND intentionally unreleased, with GN's recent AMD lab tour finally exposing the truth on these hunches that we've always had. A 5950X3D with the full 192 MB L3 was planned, designed, completed and never shipped, obviously due to concerns about it being predatory to their own EPYC business. It was demoed in GN's video:

They simply opted not to sell them (lame excuse citing no gaming performance uplift over 5800X3D - yeah then, why release anything above the 5800X), and the same goes for the Zen 3 Threadripper 5990X "Chagall", replacement for the 3990X with 64 cores and all that. Their unwillingness to release the latter condemned the entire viability of the TRX40 platform which went belly up remarkably fast and now the company and everyone else pretend that it doesn't exist, with the cope that "the target market doesn't care and Zen 2 is enough for them" immediately slapped as the flex tape fix.

 

[Assimilator]

No, it wouldn't be?

Why not? The V-cache is proven to produce massive performance uplift in most games.