Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB

[P4-630]

If you only use it for the OS, you shouldn't be buying a 2TB SSD.

 

[Thundra74]

just buyed during Prime Day but absolutly not worth comparing with kc3000/fury R, Skhynix p41 platinum or sn850x .
Its almost the same or worst with ingiustified premium price

 

[Makaveli]

You aren't aware that you can create multiple STEAM libraries that basically act like one? Going Raid 0 for your use case is just not smart, esp. if you're not interested in higher speeds that net no practical benefit anyways. Plus you end up with higher latency and a very increased chance of complete data loss.

How can I split my Steam Library across multiple portable harddrives?

I am currently downloading my Steam Library to a 4TB Portable Harddrive which when i want to play a game, i copy off from onto my gaming PC, whichever it may be (in the event i do a new build). At...

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Spoiler: it will shred all other drives.

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The fastest consumer SSD you can buy is here.

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There is no need to change my setup it's working for me.

the increase in latency is not noticeable in use and is only something you will see in a benchmark. And also not worried about data loss this Array has been up for almost 5 years now created it in 2019 and no issues. As I also mentioned in my previous post I have a Intel G2 160GB x2 Raid 0 in my old i7 970 build that is still running that is now 10+ years old. I'm not concerned about data lost in a SSD Raid setup that is just used to store games.

 

[R0H1T]

If you only use it for the OS, you shouldn't be buying a 2TB SSD.

Why not?

 

[Makaveli]

Why not?

agree with you also if the difference in price is small it makes more sense to go with the larger drive 2TB will also perform better than the 1TB.

 

[P4-630]

Why not?

IMO better use a 2TB SSD for game storage or photo/video collection.

I use a 980 Pro 1TB for the OS, but besides that have also few games and benchmarks installed, still have 454GB free space left.

 

[R0H1T]

I would probably be buying some of the higher end 4TB drives if they weren't stupidly more expensive ($/TB) than some of the best 2TB drives out there.

IMO better use a 2TB SSD for game storage or photo/video collection.

I use a 980 Pro 1TB for the OS, but besides that have also few games and benchmarks installed, still have 454GB free space left.

One of the issues is M.2 slots, you can still get 6 SATA ports in a lot of mobos but M.2 is basically limited to two for the vast majority of boards out there.

It's even worse for laptops because of the 2TB drive limitation.

 

[P4-630]

One of the issues is M.2 slots, you can still get 6 SATA ports in a lot of mobos but M.2 is basically limited to two for the vast majority of boards out there.

My board has 5 M.2 slots and for one of them I'll lose a SATA port, having 5 SATA ports left of the 6.

Currently using 3 SATA SSD's and 2 M.2s.

 

[R0H1T]

Five is overkill even for the latest gen, did you buy the board just for M.2 slots

 

[P4-630]

did you buy the board just for M.2 slots

No, but that's what you get when buying a premium board, it's nice to have and I will use the slots when needed.

 

[Tomorrow]

agree with you also if the difference in price is small it makes more sense to go with the larger drive 2TB will also perform better than the 1TB.

In case on 990 Pro - not really. Unlike most others the 1TB version achieves most of the performance.

I would probably be buying some of the higher end 4TB drives if they weren't stupidly more expensive ($/TB) than some of the best 2TB drives out there.

Not really. 4TB starts at 200 for Gen3 models. For 230 you can get a top speed Gen4 model and the prices keep falling.

One of the issues is M.2 slots, you can still get 6 SATA ports in a lot of mobos but M.2 is basically limited to two for the vast majority of boards out there.

Those keep increasing. My four year old X570 board has three Gen4 slots. Newer boards already have 4, 5 or even 6.

 

[R0H1T]

You can't access some of those slots easily if you have a big a$$ 4 slot RTX 4090 or 3.5 slot 7900 XTX

The SSD's right below/near the GPU also run hotter in my experience.

 

[Gameslove]

HotSpot 101 C, this is for PCI-E 4.0 drives, best value and choice PCI-E 3.0.

 

[Makaveli]

In case on 990 Pro - not really. Unlike most others the 1TB version achieves most of the performance.

Not really. 4TB starts at 200 for Gen3 models. For 230 you can get a top speed Gen4 model and the prices keep falling.

Those keep increasing. My four year old X570 board has three Gen4 slots. Newer boards already have 4, 5 or even 6.

I would be choosing the 2tb drive also because of the TBW.

The 1TB drive is rated at 600 and the 2TB drive 1200.

However the price on the 2TB for samsung is not worth it you are playing double the cost.

 

[Tomorrow]

HotSpot 101 C, this is for PCI-E 4.0 drives, best value and choice PCI-E 3.0.

The prices have come down so much that it's not really the case anymore. Sure you can save up to 30 bucks on 4TB model (much less on lower capacity ones) but it's not really worth it going with Gen3 anymore.

 

[b1k3rdude]

2TB version no. But 1TB 990 Pro is worth it as it's the fastest 1TB PCIe 4.0 model out there i believe. Phison, Innogrit, WD and Solidigm controllers wont achieve their full performance until 2TB and my XPG Gammix S70 Blade 4TB based on Innogrit controller still loses to 1TB 990 Pro in some benchmarks.

As for sensors then yes Samsung has sensors for both NAND and Controller. You can easily detect which one is which by putting a load on the drive. The controller is usually marked as #2 and is always hotter than #1. Especially during load.

Hwinfo64 is not the best with drive sensors unfortunately. I have 3 Gen4 drives in my system and the only way to determine which on is which i have to place a load on one drive and see which temps go up and then rename that on is Hwinfo64.

CDM settings are different than in the review. Settings: Default (instead of NVMe SSD). Profile: Default. VBS: Dsabled. Drive not empty.
X570 Primary M.2 slot.

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Whats your system specs..? as its not listed on your profile.

 

[zlobby]

Well, I for one woyld like to know if it supports SED/OPAL, and what cyphers are aupported in hardware.

 

[Tomorrow]

Whats your system specs..? as its not listed on your profile.

5800X3D
X570 Aorus Master
4x8GB DDR4-3733
RTX 2080 Ti
Seasonic Prime Titanium 1000W
990 Pro 1TB
PM9A1 2TB
Gammix S70 4TB
Win11 Pro. VBS etc disabled.

Well, I for one woyld like to know if it supports SED/OPAL, and what cyphers are aupported in hardware.

From Samsung's own specs:
AES 256-bit Encryption (Class 0)
TCG/Opal IEEE1667 (Encrypted drive)

 

[bug]

Doesn't matter with an SSD.
If it fails it fails.

Back in the days when I was running the OS on a spinner, I always had my games on separate spinners because back then it did matter.

A boot drive will see a lot of activity, an indexers, an AV and God knows what background services will keep reading and writing that drive. If you put your games on a different drive, that will be almost in read-only mode most of the time.
Then again, in 2023 if you only use one drive and when the boot drives fails and takes the game with it, all that having the games on a second drive would save you is a library re-download.

 

[P4-630]

all that having the games on a second drive would save you is a library re-download.

Ok then, I have 1Gbit down , takes some time but it's not a huge issue.

I do have most games on other SSD's though.

 

[Makaveli]

Indeed. I have OS on 1TB. Data on 2TB and games on 4TB. It's not about failure. It's about convenience.
If you have to reinstall the OS then data and games stay in place. And it's easier to upgrade one of those separately.

100% agreed.

I keep the OS / Data / Games on all separate drives.

Have to reinstall windows no problem, after reinstall is completed just point your launcher to the games drive its scan's and reconnected everything.

 

[b1k3rdude]

5800X3D
X570 Aorus Master
4x8GB DDR4-3733

So close enough to my config -

5900x
X570 MEG ACE
4x8GB DDR4-3733

That makes the low 4kQD1 writes speeds I saw frustrating *(my screenshots were taken on a fresh build of Win10 22h2)

 

[kapone32]

Hi TPU have you guys reviewed the Seagate 530? My speeds seem faster than some of the 990 scores I am seeing.

 

[AsRock]

Doesn't matter with an SSD.
If it fails it fails.

Back in the days when I was running the OS on a spinner, I always had my games on separate spinners because back then it did matter.

It kinda does matter, the difference from loosing a bunch of games and your OS is going to be that extra pain in the ass.

You can't access some of those slots easily if you have a big a$$ 4 slot RTX 4090 or 3.5 slot 7900 XTX

The SSD's right below/near the GPU also run hotter in my experience.

And in my experience the one above the GPU runs hotter, guess which ones above ^^

 

[Tomorrow]

So close enough to my config -

5900x
X570 MEG ACE
4x8GB DDR4-3733

That makes the low 4kQD1 writes speeds I saw frustrating *(my screenshots were taken on a fresh build of Win10 22h2)

I just looked at your screenshots. Based on the drive letter can i assume you had all three models installed in M.2 slots 1, 2 and 3?

Because that could explain the results. If Sabrent was installed in the first slot then naturally it's the quickest because that is attached to the CPU. 2nd and 3rd slot are connected trough the chipset and tho the chipset is 4.0 capable the physical distance of the slot and the fact that there is an extra step going trough the chipset means that you can never achieve max speeds on 2nd and 3rd slot.

To truly get proper comparison you have to test out all three drives on the first M.2 slot.
Here are some screenshots i took from Win10 and Win11 before i upgraded to Win11. The first two show 990 Pro installed in M.2_C meaning 3rd slot. My Win10 was old and buggy so the numbers are not that great. The third one is what i posted earlier when i moved the drive to the first slot.

But it is true that Win11 does actually increase SSD scores so that plays a part too.