AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT

[Colddecked]

Surprisingly good overclocking headroom for both 7700xt and 7800xt. Not like Nvidia, where you get 6-7% at best

There's no guarantee every 7800/7700 will overclock as good as these samples. Plus overclocking is outdated, GPUs (and CPUs ) nowadays are really good at setting their clocks appropriately according to their voltage/power limits.

 

[AnotherReader]

No.

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I am sensing that a clarification is in order. I meant the 7800XT in general, not the reference card in particular. The PowerColor Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound reviewed here is the best 7800XT considering it's priced the same as the reference model.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Thanks for the comprehensive and timely review @W1zzard. Given the price, this is the best RDNA3 option in many markets.

I think given the RT performance in games that have decent rt Witcher 3 NG/CP2077 and DLSS I'd still just get a 4070. For those who don't care about either no current gen card comes close.

 

[AnotherReader]

I think given the RT performance in games that have decent rt Witcher 3 NG/CP2077 and DLSS I'd still just get a 4070. For those who don't care about either no current card comes close.

That's a fair point. If you care about RT, Nvidia is the only option for cards faster than the 3060. As for myself, there's already a 7800XT selling at an almost negligible discount here ($670 or US $492), and that makes the decision an easy one for me. The 7900 XT isn't priced low enough here to be a consideration.

 

[Taisho]

Is 41W video playback power consumption a new normal that is not listen as a con?

 

[ARF]

Is 41W video playback power consumption a new normal that is not listen as a con?

I guess this is a bug in the clocks settings. Maybe the memory clock is at 100%.

 

[Frick]

No.

I would say that it is. The cheapest models:

7700xt - €520
7800xt - €580
6800xt - €580
6950xt - €650
RTX 4070 - €650
7900xt - €890
7900xtx - €1050

So yeah. If you're looking for a midrange GPU (say an upgrade from a 2060 or 2070 or something) and you don't already have a +850W PSU this is not bad at all.

 

[ARF]

I would say that it is. The cheapest models:

7700xt - €520
7800xt - €580
6800xt - €580
6950xt - €650
RTX 4070 - €650
7900xt - €890
7900xtx - €1050

So yeah. If you're looking for a midrange GPU (say an upgrade from a 2060 or 2070 or something) and you don't already have a +850W PSU this is not bad at all.

All RDNA 3 cards are equally terribly priced. I wouldn't rate them as better and worse.

 

[Parn]

Best value so far in the current generation. If it were named 7800 or 7700XT and its price lowered to $450, this would be the perfect 1st step towards pre-pandemic GPU market.

 

[Jism]

This is a fairly new design, MCD's and such. Those things require some iterations to start getting the most out of it.

It just suprises me that the whole 7x00 series has bin locked down in regards of bios edits or MPT. Your better off with the 6x00 series if you like OC'ing and like to have some (free) extra headroom.

 

[Frick]

All RDNA 3 cards are equally terribly priced. I wouldn't rate them as better and worse.

... sure. As is everything else (Nvidia GPU's, food, power, electronics in general maybe apart from flash storage and DRAM, rent). But if you're in the market for a GPU these are the options.

 

[Denver]

today is the 06.09.2023. a 6800XT costs 500 bucks. the MSRP is irrelevant.
this product replaces a 500 dollar GPU which is exactly the same and in some instances even faster. for almost 600 dollars...

The only reason this GPU is available for sale at this price is a super stock that is still available and the only way to sell it is by giving up the profit margin or selling at a loss, but eventually the stock will run out as they are no longer produced.

So the correct and fair comparison is always MSRP vs MSRP.

 

[ViperXTR]

its been months since the lack of RDNA2 gpus on my region and this will fill it with affordable RDNA3 ones, sad about being just an on par with 6800XT but the price is a nice middle finger to nvidia
If i held off a little maybe i would have gone to this route

 

[cvearl]

what's the point of selling a product that is identical (or even slower) with the product it replaces? for more money...
seems like the clowns at AMD working overtime again...
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Sadly people are confused and it is AMD's own fault. Based on pricing it is the replacement for the 6700XT not the 6800XT. The 6700XT was $480 in 2020. Today that is $560. 7800XT is $500 and 46% faster than the 6700XT. If you want to replace the 6800XT ($650 in 2020 and would be $789 today), that would be the 7900XT. For some stupid reason they dropped all their names one teir? Why? Who knows. But this is clear if you ignore the names. The 7900XT gen over gen is a better value than the 6800XT. It includes 4GB more VRAM, includes AV1 and is 45% faster with RT enabled and is the same price when you adjust for inflation. Same exact thing can be said for the 6700XT vs 7800XT. Someone at AMD needs a smack in the head for messing up the names like this.

 

[rv8000]

Best value so far in the current generation. If it were named 7800 or 7700XT and its price lowered to $450, this would be the perfect 1st step towards pre-pandemic GPU market.

All it comes down to in the end is price, people getting hung up on the name leads to horrible conclusions no matter what the GPU is.

 

[Chaitanya]

So once again between to two SKUs launching now, 7700Xt is worse value proposition and looks like its better to go for 7800Xt.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Sadly people are confused and it is AMD's own fault. Based on pricing it is the replacement for the 6700XT not the 6800XT. The 6700XT was $480 in 2020. Today that is $560. 7800XT is $500 and 46% faster than the 6700XT. If you want to replace the 6800XT ($650 in 2020 and would be $789 today), that would be the 7900XT. For some stupid reason they dropped all their names one teir? Why? Who knows. But this is clear if you ignore the names. The 7900XT gen over gen is a better value than the 6800XT. It includes 4GB more VRAM, includes AV1 and is 45% faster with RT enabled and is the same price when you adjust for inflation. Same exact thing can be said for the 6700XT vs 7800XT. Someone at AMD needs a smack in the head for messing up the names like this.

That's only now that the price torpedoed down on the 7900XT at launch it was by far the worse RDNA3 release so far... Eh, maybe the 7600 was worse but I already expected that one to be ba.

But yeah naming has been stupid in general this generation on both sides.

So once again between to two SKUs launching now, 7700Xt is worse value proposition and looks like its better to go for 7800Xt.

7900 series 2.0

 

[Vya Domus]

There's no guarantee every 7800/7700 will overclock as good as these samples.

Nah they're all going to do roughly the same, RDNA3 is mostly limited by power not voltage.

overclocking is outdated

No it's not, it's still an option, at least on AMD side. There is nothing outdated about it, I myself managed to squeeze some 10% out of my 7900XT.

 

[AnotherReader]

That's only now that the price torpedoed down on the 7900XT at launch it was by far the worse RDNA3 release so far... Eh, maybe the 7600 was worse but I already expected that one to be ba.

But yeah naming has been stupid in general this generation on both sides.



7900 series 2.0

The seemingly illogical price gap between the 7700 and the 7800 is a logical consequence of the high yields for the GCD. With a defect density of 0.09 per square cm, the yield would be 83% for a 210 mm^2 die and 88.3% with a defect density of 0.06. This doesn't account for any yield enhancing techniques such as redundancy in SRAM.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The seemingly illogical price gap between the 7700 and the 7800 is a logical consequence of the high yields for the GCD. With a defect density of 0.09 per square cm, the yield would be 83% for a 210 mm^2 die and 88.3% with a defect density of 0.06. This doesn't account for any yield enhancing techniques such as redundancy in SRAM.

I think it's more of a consequence of the 4060ti being so trash but that works also....

 

[Colddecked]

Nah they're all going to do roughly the same, RDNA3 is mostly limited by power not voltage.


No it's not, it's still an option, at least on AMD side. There is nothing outdated about it, I myself managed to squeeze some 10% out of my 7900XT.

Its outdated in the sense where before overclocking gave you WAY MORE than 10% performance. Also, while its good you got 10% out of the games you play, there's a good chance its not 100% stable and there is some game out there (or some game in the future) that will crash it.

I enjoy undervolting more than overclocking nowadays, but it comes with the same caveat its not 100% stable with all games. I guess I'm at a point in my life where I value stability over an extra 10% fps.

 

[Dimitriman]

In the matter of naming only, It is obvious that the 7900 GRE should have been the 7800XT, while the 16GB version should have been the 7700XT, and the 12GB should have been the 7600XT to compete with the 4060ti. But anything goes in the current market and AMD/Nvidia just don't give a sh$t.

 

[Why_Me]

Looks to be a great card for gaming at 1080P.

 

[Vya Domus]

Its outdated in the sense where before overclocking gave you WAY MORE than 10% performance. Also, while its good you got 10% out of the games you play, there's a good chance its not 100% stable and there is some game out there (or some game in the future) that will crash it.

10% is pretty good, even historically speaking, there never was "way more" than that.

I enjoy undervolting more than overclocking nowadays, but it comes with the same caveat its not 100% stable with all games. I guess I'm at a point in my life where I value stability over an extra 10% fps.

Undervolting or overclocking is basically the same thing with AMD cards, in case you didn't know.

 

[dir_d]

This looks to be the best card of the 7xxx series. Still alot of stagnation but its a start. It seems we will have to rely on gimmicks (DLSS,FSR) for few more years.