Patriot Releases 32GB Xporter XT Boost USB Drive

malware · Oct 27, 2007

Patriot Memory recently announced a 32GB version to their Xporter XT Boost line (PEF32GUSB). The USB drive has read speeds of up to 150x, which makes it one of the fastest USB Flash Drives in the market. It is also certified for Windows Vista and is ReadyBoost compliant. The 32GB Xporter XT Boost is designed with a rubber water resistant housing making it reliable for users to transport. Just in case anything happens, it is backed by a lifetime warranty.

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Casheti · Oct 27, 2007

Makes you wonder how long before the standard hard drive is obsolete.

mab1376 · Oct 27, 2007

how much do you think that thing will cost?

panchoman · Oct 27, 2007

my system is running on 39 gigs of hard drive space... and this is a 32gig flash drive. wouldn't this be basically a portable ssd drive. would be a great idea to install an os on it and take the os anywhere.

AsphyxiA · Oct 27, 2007

mab1376 said:
how much do you think that thing will cost?

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.a...37796&Type=PE&Category=Elec&Gad=0&dcaid=17864
follow the link 87.18 @ buy.com

AsphyxiA · Oct 27, 2007

oh my bad, thats for the 2gb version it looks to be

Disparia · Oct 27, 2007

Yeah, the 16GB is going for $134 over at Newegg.

breakfromyou · Oct 27, 2007

AsphyxiA said:
oh my bad, thats for the 2gb version it looks to be

That's also an SD card...not a USB flash drive.

Wow, sometimes I really wonder about you all.

tony929292 · Oct 28, 2007

i wounder which is faster 32g raptor or this

panchoman · Oct 28, 2007

the drive, because its flash, it doesn't use the spinning spindle and stuff you know. the new ssd's or whatever drives are coming out using flash memory to store data, similair to this drive. so its basically a tiny portable flash hard drive.

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

panchoman said:
the drive, because its flash, it doesn't use the spinning spindle and stuff you know. the new ssd's or whatever drives are coming out using flash memory to store data, similair to this drive. so its basically a tiny portable flash hard drive.

Different types of flash memory tho.
Just because you have a large USB drive doesnt mean its faster than your hard drive.

Last time I checked, USB had like a theoretical maximum transfer speed of like 100mb/sec, not exactly ideal...

twicksisted · Oct 28, 2007

i was thinking of this a while back... with cpu's and memory the way they are today a lot of the time all you weaiting for is the HDD to deliver the info...

I have looked at those solutions where u can use ram as an HDD's (forgotten the name) ... but that still gets whipped by a decent raid 0 setup...

well one things for certain... they cant engineer a spinning HDD any better than it already is... so the only next logical step is solid state and perhaps a new type of bus thats fast enough to support it and deliver it where it needs to be without slowing down other components

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

twicksisted said:
well one things for certain... they cant engineer a spinning HDD any better than it already is... so the only next logical step is solid state and perhaps a new type of bus thats fast enough to support it and deliver it where it needs to be without slowing down other components

Of course they can.
They are improving drives as we speak by implementing technologies along the lines of perpendicular recording etc, all involved in getting more data density on hard drive platters. Though of course, one day solid state will become the norm, at the moment it isnt a very lucrative technology. It is currently alot more expensive per gigabyte, and the speeds dont thrash our existing drives.

The current advantages of SSD is low latency, quiet and cool nature of the drives (low power drain).

Disadvanges - Slower streaming of data, electromagnetic vulnerability, succeptibility to corruption from sudden power loss, lots more expensive per gig and data recoverability (once its deleted/corrupted/lost its gone forever).

Thats the current situation as to why they arnt mainstream. Though the future looks bright

twicksisted · Oct 28, 2007

ex_reven said:
implementing technologies along the lines of perpendicular recording etc

you mean like a raid 0 setup inside one drive?

so it takes up 1 space but doubles the speed internally... mmmm thats a thought..

still a drive can only spin so fast.. and it does slow a pc down...

Disparia · Oct 28, 2007

twicksisted said:
I have looked at those solutions where u can use ram as an HDD's (forgotten the name) ... but that still gets whipped by a decent raid 0 setup...

That would have to be one heck of a RAID-0 array

http://jack.abyssmal.com/photo/RRamdisk_IOMeter-001.png

twicksisted · Oct 28, 2007

lol ok well im not sure what solid state drive you had a bench for in that test but i was looking at the gigabyte ram disk a couple of months back... a box with DDR2 in that has a battery (think it was iRam or something)..

havent really kept up to date with that side of tech lately hehe

so many side to watch hehe!
(been focussing on GFX and CPU's in my spare time mainly)

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

Jizzler said:
That would have to be one heck of a RAID-0 array

http://jack.abyssmal.com/photo/RRamdisk_IOMeter-001.png

Hard drives 'write' data differently to how SSD's do.
Read this http://www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf

twicksisted · Oct 28, 2007

ok well that looks like a read for tomorrow... hehe
got through the first two paragraphs and it lost my tired concentration span

(of which even awake and refreshed is that of a small single celled organism)

for now im down 8 beers, half awake and busting for the loo... hope i make it down the stairs!

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

twicksisted said:
ok well that looks like a read for tomorrow... hehe
got through the first two paragraphs and it lost my tired concentration span
(of which even awake and refreshed is that of a small single celled organism)

for now im down 8 beers, half awake and busting for the loo... hope i make it down the stairs!

Ill summarise. Basically it goes on to talk about how SSD's write data to blocks that are often 1-4MB in size. In writing/replacing data, the SSD cant modify the data. It must first ERASE and then REWRITE the data to the SSD. That at least was my understanding of the article.
It sort of makes sense though. That would prove why SSD is faster at reading than HDDs, though it is slower than writing data. SO I guess its sort of a balancing act between the two.

Maybe thats why I heard somewhere that they were planning on making hybrid drives, a mix of SSD and regular Hard drives...

twicksisted · Oct 28, 2007

hmmm...

well what i was wondering is why... (since they already make drive with multiple platters/disks) they dont make a half sized drive... where lets say out of 4 platters you get 2/2 acting as raid 0

that would double the speed as in raid.... and youd have it on the drive itself meaning that it dosent get affected by the controller maximum speed.

Disparia · Oct 28, 2007

ex_reven said:
Hard drives 'write' data differently to how SSD's do.
Read this http://www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf

And? It's an article about flash-based SSDs.

WarEagleAU · Oct 28, 2007

That is one of the snazziest looking thumb drives Ive seen. Rugged, sturdy, batter backup and lifetime warranty. All I need now is a price.

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

twicksisted said:
hmmm...

well what i was wondering is why... (since they already make drive with multiple platters/disks) they dont make a half sized drive... where lets say out of 4 platters you get 2/2 acting as raid 0

that would double the speed as in raid.... and youd have it on the drive itself meaning that it dosent get affected by the controller maximum speed.

The drive would be slower if you reduced the size of the drive.
The circumference of the disk would be smaller. And therefore the outside edge of the disk would be moving slower.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=34311&page=2
Read from post 27 onwards.

Jizzler said:
And? It's an article about flash-based SSDs.

Whats your point? Its still limited to the bandwidth of the USB port anyway.

Disparia · Oct 28, 2007

ex_reven said:
Whats your point? Its still limited to the bandwidth of the USB port anyway.

We were talking about RAM-based SSDs so the article really didn't apply

ex_reven · Oct 28, 2007

Jizzler said:
We were talking about RAM-based SSDs so the article really didn't apply

I only mentioned RAM SSD because panchoman accidently mistook the USB drive for the same thing. Then twistedsisted mentioned how a decent RAID beat SSDs and you disagreed and showed a benchmark so I posted the article about the write problems experienced with SSDs that show that your benchmark an innaccurate way of comparing SSD to HDD especially since a ram based SSD requires a hard drive to operate anyway, so I dont think its entirely suitable to the discussion.

The reason I posted info on flash based SSD is because we are talking about a USB device, not one located on the PCI bus.

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