AMD Puts Radeon Vega and Polaris GPUs on a Slower Driver Update Track

[Dr. Dro]

What do you mean?

Their endless poor decisions and trend to simply give up on hardware that's 5 years old at best with tons of outstanding issues, of course.

 

[AusWolf]

trend to simply give up on hardware that's 5 years old at best

Who gave up on it? It will still get driver updates. I don't see it as giving up.

 

[remekra]

Their endless poor decisions and trend to simply give up on hardware that's 5 years old at best with tons of outstanding issues, of course.

Still better than giving up on one generation old hardware and not releasing a feature for it

 

[Evildead666]

No, it's just the driver. I get the same with my non Pro 5600H sometimes. There was also a broken hdmi audio driver causing bsod's, absolutely hilarious.



The big deal is these unprofessional jokers who keep getting a pass, that's why they'll never improve.

My My My, My fingers are itching

We should get you on a direct line to AMD, your insight is going to save their company from certain failure !

Thread title

"AMD Puts Radeon Vega and Polaris GPUs on a Slower Driver Update Track "​

and somehow people read "AMD is stopping all driver support for Vega and Polaris GPU's!!!!! Panic Now !!!"

Maybe we can organize a collective trip to an Opticians ?

 

[mechtech]

Must be nice, not going all "this one will finally make wayland work!" every month...

Update cycle on my old RX480 was probably even longer.............. maybe I'm just lucky??

Was thinking of updating over the Christmas holidays........maybe.........if I have time

 

[Aquinus]

Fine. I just played some games on my Vega 64 in Linux with the 6.2 kernel and everything seems to run flawlessly. It holds its own pretty well for a 6 year old GPU on a 12 year old platform (3930k, X79.)

 

[RayneYoruka]

Fine. I just played some games on my Vega 64 in Linux with the 6.2 kernel and everything seems to run flawlessly. It holds its own pretty well for a 6 year old GPU on a 12 year old platform (3930k, X79.)

In linux it will run far better compared to windows xD

Linux + AMD =

 

[Aquinus]

In linux it will run far better compared to windows xD

Linux + AMD =

It hasn't always been that way. I had a R9 390 that was flat out painful to use. Awesome GPU when it worked for the time, but driver support was pretty sad. I feel like with Vega AMD finally started taking their Linux support seriously.

Hell, being able to write to /proc to overclock your GPU is awesome.

 

[RayneYoruka]

It hasn't always been that way. I had a R9 390 that was flat out painful to use. Awesome GPU when it worked for the time, but driver support was pretty sad. I feel like with Vega AMD finally started taking their Linux support seriously.

Hell, being able to write to /proc to overclock your GPU is awesome.

Yep, before it was pretty messy and I can confirm as in the past decade I've been daily driving linux (except this past 4 years) where I started using a bit more of both win and lin, it was indeed with vega that they took it seriously which it was about time!

There is pretty cool tricks that you could do without needing extra tools!

 

[Dr. Dro]

Who gave up on it? It will still get driver updates. I don't see it as giving up.

I'm not so forgiving. It's yet another negative to buying Radeon in my eyes.

My My My, My fingers are itching

We should get you on a direct line to AMD, your insight is going to save their company from certain failure !

Thread title

"AMD Puts Radeon Vega and Polaris GPUs on a Slower Driver Update Track "​

and somehow people read "AMD is stopping all driver support for Vega and Polaris GPU's!!!!! Panic Now !!!"

Maybe we can organize a collective trip to an Opticians ?

Hold AMD to a high standard. Not mediocrity. Someone who purchased a GTX 980 in 2014 was able to install each and every driver released since, received new features and bug fixes as well.

Still better than giving up on one generation old hardware and not releasing a feature for it

Two wrongs don't make a right. If AMD didn't blunder everything they'd feel compelled.

 

[AusWolf]

I'm not so forgiving. It's yet another negative to buying Radeon in my eyes.

Hold AMD to a high standard. Not mediocrity. Someone who purchased a GTX 980 in 2014 was able to install each and every driver released since, received new features and bug fixes as well.

Two wrongs don't make a right. If AMD didn't blunder everything they'd feel compelled.

If you can explain why you need literally every single new driver to be installed, maybe I'll see your point. But for now, I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.

 

[remekra]

I'm not so forgiving. It's yet another negative to buying Radeon in my eyes.



Hold AMD to a high standard. Not mediocrity. Someone who purchased a GTX 980 in 2014 was able to install each and every driver released since, received new features and bug fixes as well.



Two wrongs don't make a right. If AMD didn't blunder everything they'd feel compelled.

It's not about two wrongs making a right.
Rather than releasing pointless drivers for old cards, it's much better to bring features to them that are not locked to newest gen of cards. How can someone ignore the fact that Vega or Polaris user can still use FSR2 and 3, while with nvidia DLSS2 is locked to RTX cards, and DLSS3 to 40 series and praise that GTX980 gets new features with those drivers?
If I was a 980 owner or 1080 I would rather have DLSS version that can run on my card rather than "Game ready" drivers every month that do not do anything.

 

[Dwarden]

I am never buying any other video cards other than Vega ones because of AMD Fluid motion being removed in the newer AMD cards. AMD Fluid motion Is like slice bread, its amazing. Its impossible for me to watch TV Shows, Movies (Blu-ray/4K/Motion2/True Theater) videos in general without having AMD Fluid motion enable. I have a 5000/6000 card, but i probably get rid of them somehow eventually.

I bought a Vega 56 early this year and my next card I am buying soon as an upgrade is a Radeon Pro VII. As for Drivers, I'm using May 2022 preview since i bought the Vega 56 early this year and i have no problems with any games or anything.

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[RadeonProVega]

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Fluid Motion is back and working on RX6000 and RX7000 (RDNA2 and 3) gpus

note: 5xxx was lacking the asic chip to do FM, also even before it worked only in OpenCL

I'll test it on my 6600 tomorrow, thanks.

 

[Tom#234]

I'm glad I moved to novideo in January.. I couldn't continue with the driver usues, bsods and all the other problems with my Vega 64. Almost impossible to play, VR, run even just basic encoding like OBS in any capacity and so much more.

Please everyone refrain from saying that there was "something wrong" with my build like everyone told me in r/AMD.

I can't recommend their gpus until they mature more driver wiese or unless people is on a budget, aside from that if you're running linux you're god with an AMD gpu.

Sounds like a hardware failure.

 

[Shihab]

Someone who purchased a GTX 980 in 2014 was able to install each and every driver released since, received new features and bug fixes as well.

Few of those new features are enabled for 980 owners. For example, the freesync support was only enabled for the GTX10xx series. And how about those nifty DX12 Ultimate features Remedy had everyone moaning about?

The fellow who purchased a GTX 980 would be wasting 400 (500?)MB of their internet quota every couple of month on a software that has benefits exclusive to newer cards.

 

[RayneYoruka]

Sounds like a hardware failure.

It worked fine in linux

Furmark will stay running without issues....

 

[Dr. Dro]

Few of those new features are enabled for 980 owners. For example, the freesync support was only enabled for the GTX10xx series. And how about those nifty DX12 Ultimate features Remedy had everyone moaning about?

The fellow who purchased a GTX 980 would be wasting 400 (500?)MB of their internet quota every couple of month on a software that has benefits exclusive to newer cards.

There are probably hardware limitations involved since monitors with an actual G-Sync chip work just fine with VRR, but Maxwell 2 (GM20x) is 12_1 hardware which basically places its DirectX feature level on par with Vega's and RDNA 1.

Which is kind of hilarious after the whole grandstanding about Maxwell and Pascal having no async compute or whatever (which isn't even true), and contemporary GCN 2/3 hardware being a distant memory and long since unsupported and abandoned by AMD. Poor Volta.

Also if anyone is living on a metered residential internet plan, especially one with a quota so strict that 400 MB of data count as precious because their ISP's battered infrastructure and/or boundless greed gets in the way, they should be evaluating how to adopt Starlink as soon as possible IMHO

 

[AusWolf]

Also if anyone is living on a metered residential internet plan, especially one with a quota so strict that 400 MB of data count as precious because their ISP's battered infrastructure and/or boundless greed gets in the way, they should be evaluating how to adopt Starlink as soon as possible IMHO

If I lived on a metered connection, then GPU driver updates would be the least of my problems.

 

[RayneYoruka]

If I lived on a metered connection, then GPU driver updates would be the least of my problems.

It seems that most of the metered connections are... in the US lol

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

It hasn't always been that way. I had a R9 390 that was flat out painful to use. Awesome GPU when it worked for the time, but driver support was pretty sad. I feel like with Vega AMD finally started taking their Linux support seriously.

Hell, being able to write to /proc to overclock your GPU is awesome.

That's because in 2017 AMD FINALLY pulled their head from their arse and admitted their drivers were absolute shat. Part of fixing that entailed them open sourcing the linux drivers. Once the open source community got AMD's source code it took them about 6 months to fix AMD's silliness.

 

[RayneYoruka]

That's because in 2017 AMD FINALLY pulled their head from their arse and admitted their drivers were absolute shat. Part of fixing that entailed them open sourcing the linux drivers. Once the open source community got AMD's source code it took them about 6 months to fix AMD's silliness.

Facts ^

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

It's not about two wrongs making a right.
Rather than releasing pointless drivers for old cards, it's much better to bring features to them that are not locked to newest gen of cards. How can someone ignore the fact that Vega or Polaris user can still use FSR2 and 3, while with nvidia DLSS2 is locked to RTX cards, and DLSS3 to 40 series and praise that GTX980 gets new features with those drivers?
If I was a 980 owner or 1080 I would rather have DLSS version that can run on my card rather than "Game ready" drivers every month that do not do anything.

If you were a 980 or 1080 owner who didnt understand the game specific fixes included in game ready drivers, I'd say you probably deserve to have an AMD card with only 5 years of support. The artificial segmentation of DLSS is a separate issue.

If you can explain why you need literally every single new driver to be installed, maybe I'll see your point. But for now, I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.

New driver shave new fixes for new software. Hell, we saw this LAST YEAR. Remember rDNA3? Remember how AMD put rDNA2 on the backburner for 3 months? In those three months, rDNA2 users like myself did not receive new drivers, and within that time the 6900xt went from trading blows with a 3090 to trading blows with a 3080. The forums here were absolutely LIVID that AMD would do this.

 

[AusWolf]

New driver shave new fixes for new software. Hell, we saw this LAST YEAR. Remember rDNA3? Remember how AMD put rDNA2 on the backburner for 3 months? In those three months, rDNA2 users like myself did not receive new drivers, and within that time the 6900xt went from trading blows with a 3090 to trading blows with a 3080. The forums here were absolutely LIVID that AMD would do this.

I was on a 6750 XT at that time and had no issue waiting for a couple of months for a new driver. Like I said, I don't upgrade every single time when a new version is out, anyway. It's not necessary.

 

[Shihab]

Maxwell 2 (GM20x) is 12_1 hardware which basically places its DirectX feature level on par with Vega's and RDNA 1.

Which is kind of hilarious after the whole grandstanding about Maxwell and Pascal having no async compute or whatever (which isn't even true), and contemporary GCN 2/3 hardware being a distant memory and long since unsupported and abandoned by AMD. Poor Volta

We're not comparing hardware here though, are we? Out topic is softawre.

As far as hardware is concerned, GCN1, 2, and 3 did receive some d3d feature-enabling patch-love (for whatever that was worth). No different than Maxwell.