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Ryzen 5 5600x stock overclocked reaching high temps

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Negative curve optimizer steps are not improving temperature really. All curve optimizer does in the end is raising clocks on the same voltage.

Here is how it works below in pic
You are lowering the V/F curve from red curve to blue curve. So lowering voltage for any given frequency.
You would think that you are going from point 1 to point 2. Because the voltage is dropping... current (Amperes) is dropping so does power consumption.
Yet because the CPU is set to deliver max performance at any given moment it goes from point 1 to point 3. And this applies to any point on that curve.
So it raises clocks because it can, so current(A) goes up again and power is staying around the same.

Voltage/Frequency curve (V/F)
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So it pushes the limits of stability. Doing additional CPU undervolting or adding frequency (+25MHz steps) can throw it easily out of those limits.
 
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yea, CO needs lot of testing with different loads (and frequencies) which is not hard with corecycler but time consuming as it doesn't run on all the cores at same time (I had error after 24h+ testing)
I think if you just slap some decent air cooler on your 5600x you'll be happy, you can tinker with PBO, CO after that if you feel like it, but you should also try to tune your RAM (could be even more benefical than PBO etc)
Mmmm , my RAM is already on its max (3200mhz on D.O.C.P mode configured) Shouldn't be like that ?

Negative curve optimizer steps are not improving temperature really. All curve optimizer does in the end is raising clocks on the same voltage.

Here is how it works below in pic
You are lowering the V/F curve from red curve to blue curve. So lowering voltage for any given frequency.
You would think that you are going from point 1 to point 2. Because the voltage is dropping... current (Amperes) is dropping so does power consumption.
Yet because the CPU is set to deliver max performance at any given moment it goes from point 1 to point 3. And this applies to any point on that curve.
So it raises clocks because it can, so current(A) goes up again and power is staying around the same.

Voltage/Frequency curve (V/F)
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So it pushes the limits of stability. Doing additional CPU undervolting or adding frequency (+25MHz steps) can throw it easily out of those limits.
That seems explaining a lot , but it's out of my capabilities as a PC tech :( :D I hope providing better cooling system will allow me to use my CPU on default(maximized settings) without any thermal issues until then I will keep using it with disabled PBO and CBS. I noticed another problem - my case fans was connected via daisy chain which in the end got sata cable powered connection and the case itself has 2 reset switch cables- one for the LED and one working for a power sw. 2 days was working fine (the reset button which works as a LED change colour button) and I could change between colours of my fans. 1 day later I decided to remove one out of the 6fans on my pc fans in order to concetrate the airflow in one direction because it was distracting the proper way of the air. And it kept working fine for 1 day+ , now the RGB is lightning in only 1 colour mode and reset switch doesn't work at all..It's working now but only in green colour(I want it in white). There is no software for ARGB controlling at all installed on my pc and never used. Only used that switch button.Fans are working fine , but the RGB is not , can this mean something happened with my fans and any suggestions I can fix this ? BTW I tied all the cables carefully with pig tails in order to do some ''cable management'' and this case fans was a big mess.I could change them with my old pc case fans which are 3pin and have option to daisy chain again but they don't connect its power to SATA but instead to a 3pin connector on the mobo.The problem is that this particular mobo have 2 ports for 3pin fans right in the middle of the mobo which doesn't allow me to do a ''clear build'' without cables hoverin in the middle of the case/build.
This PC case is cursed..It was too good to be truth I knew it ! Never buy kolink observatory case again ...
 
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Mmmm , my RAM is already on its max (3200mhz on D.O.C.P mode configured) Shouldn't be like that ?
that is fine, I was just saying if you want to tune it for some more performance (which I assumed since you running with PBO) you could try to go for some better clocks or timings, but that's already another topic:)
 
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Update : After disabling CBS and PBO I noticed little change to temperature.I am sure that I disabled both of them , but after re-check I found out that CBS was not disabled for some reason(I am more than sure I disabled it on the first try).Now I have maximum 60 degrees temp while heavy gaming but on the cost ot like 20% performance.(CPU is now up to 3.6-3.7GHz)It suits for me right now and maybe I will turn them on when I can afford a new AIO.I think about enabling PBO to try because I noticed that when it was the only disabled option it doesn't gave me such better thermals.
 
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Benchmark Scores 4.7GHZ on the CPU at 1.3 Volts, Step it up PBO!
If it's too high, (80+) try doing an undervolt
5600x already performs great without overclocking so its more of just a matter of how low you can get the voltage
 
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Update : After disabling CBS and PBO I noticed little change to temperature.I am sure that I disabled both of them , but after re-check I found out that CBS was not disabled for some reason(I am more than sure I disabled it on the first try).Now I have maximum 60 degrees temp while heavy gaming but on the cost ot like 20% performance.(CPU is now up to 3.6-3.7GHz)It suits for me right now and maybe I will turn them on when I can afford a new AIO.I think about enabling PBO to try because I noticed that when it was the only disabled option it doesn't gave me such better thermals.
Looks like you disabled boosting all together if it not going above 3.7GHz.
I would've approached it differently.
Leave PB (dynamic boost) enable and set max platform temperature to desired level. 70~75C is nice.

Its the last setting in this section
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You can have FmaxEnhancer and Precision Boost Overdrive disabled here.
 
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