Because it really, really wasn’t the best mouse ever by the time the Legendary re-issue rolled around. Too heavy and a shape that forces the hand placement too much even for an ergo, which makes it really usable only with a palm grip, even claw is arguable. Fingertip on it was plain silly. The whole shebang was a prime example of “you think you do, but you don’t” - the shape was outdated, too big, too bulky, shit cable, the works. Just so that we’re clear - this was in the G Pro Wireless era already. The G305 was released. The Vipers would release in the same time period. I am not surprised it failed.
I don't know about the best mouse ever made but the most comfortable one for "my hand" is my current Razer Basilisk V3. For a long time the Logi G502 took that win until the V3 unleashed its palm-perfection.
like a lot of other´s said
it´s the one that fit´s your hand and grip the best
loved mx518 now using thermaltake something(TT black ..)a for big hands you have to search
I had the Logitech G7 with the swappable batteries and it was a pretty sweet mouse at the time. Eventually the batteries died too fast so I bought a replacement set, but it barely improved it. Super comfortable mouse though. I never wanted to buy a battery powered mouse after that.
After that, I bought a G9x and it was my favorite mouse ever.
It was the first mouse I ever had that I wore the skates off and attempted to replace them. The replacements were pretty good, but it was never quite the same feel.
I was in the EVGA associates program and when they launched their newest set of mice they had a super cheap deal on a mouse and keyboard and the mouse (X17) was pretty good ergonomically and I ended up selling the G9x (people were paying crazy money for these used...no idea why) and I still kind of regret it. The X17 I ended up going away from and went back to Logitech to minimize software suites required and I have a G502 X now. It's not bad, but I still kind of miss that weird, but comfortable G9x. Never had a more comfortable gaming mouse that just focused on the essentials. The DPI shift had up and down where all the newer mice I've seen have just one button that cycles all the way through 5 settings instead of being able to go either way and maybe a "sniping button" (which is actually pretty handy sometimes...oddly enough I use it more often in games like 7 days or Ark where I'm trying to carefully place blocks when building lol).
I had a couple of G9X mice, but I wore out the first left-click in warranty and then sold on the second one because mouse3 (wheel click) was super stiff and had an insane actuation force. I thought it was just a one-off in my first mouse but when the new replacement came it's mouse3 was even stiffer than the first one.
No complaints about the build quality though, it was a robust, well-made mouse that was over-engineered in a good (and heavy) way. The failure was the Omron microswitch that has been the Achilles heel of many a good mouse, and presumably that's why some manufacturers are moving to optical switches now....
Dunno if it's the best ever but the OG G502 was the first mouse that I didn't kill in a year or so and stood the test of time. In fact, it still lives even though that one is relegated to a non-gaming pc.
Best mouse warranty ever goes to Steelseries - they replaced my Sensei 3 times and 4th time around they upgraded me to another model that came out but i forgot the name. After the warranty period too.
I don't know about the best mouse ever made but the most comfortable one for "my hand" is my current Razer Basilisk V3. For a long time the Logi G502 took that win until the V3 unleashed its palm-perfection.
I actually moved from G502 to Basilisk V3 but miss the little side buttons beside the left button. It's a better mouse otherwise though for my hands but I don't know how the newer G502's will fare against this one and I might go back if it matches up well (weight, tracking etc)
I actually moved from G502 to Basilisk V3 but miss the little side buttons beside the left button. It's a better mouse otherwise though for my hands but I don't know how the newer G502's will fare against this one and I might go back if it matches up well (weight, tracking etc)
me too! Where it was useful, I made use of those left buttons with game commands/macros. I also liked the led DPI indicator. My only issue being, over time i had two G502s and both after some time had issues with the right-click button which at some point intermittently played up. I get real competitive at gaming and when the gun scope fails to pull up or drops unexpectedly it drives me nuts. Temporary fix being: light banging around on my mouse pad and blowing into the front crevices which oddly enough works, until it plays up again (..and repeat). lol i was too lazy to follow those online YT tutorials to take it apart and give it a proper clean so thought i'd give the V3 a shot - so far, picked up in March 2023, its running flawlessly and feels more finely tailored for my hand (...and feels more premium too). My only complaint being the sensitivity clutch is a little out of reach and sometimes jolts your aim when trying to reach it... i don't bother with it unless i'm camping/sniping (or similar).
Modern times, G700s was good (the connector needs work) until I went to a G900, and then on to a G502X PLUS
Wasn't sure if I'd enjoy using a non ambidextrous mouse after the G900 but my hand isn't cramping like it used to gaming and I ranked up further with it than my G900 so I'm going to say my current mouse is probably the best mouse I've ever used and it would seem (since I don't use the side buttons for anything) that it's the perfect size for my hand (they could ditch everything but the left, right and wheel and I wouldn't notice)
I like the basic Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical v.1.1 for common PC tasks. The Corsair Vengeance and the Tt eSport Saphira for gaming. The M.A.D. Catz r.a.t. 5 is a nice mouse but it proved a little too awkward for my hand.
My first though was old microsoft intellimouse. Those things are a tank. I have one i bought still around i use to on my laptop and even when i fix for pc's.
It is supposedly the MS Comfort 1000, it came from a cheap Mouse+KB combo I got when I was just getting deeply into gaming. (The keyboard was really nice too, the function keys were large enough and had minimal travel so it made it a perfect Guitar Hero controller!) This mouse was probably the most comfortable mouse I could have ever used, plus it survived all the abuse I threw at it haha. I don't know how many mice survive 5+ years without one of the microswitches failing, but this mouse could. After "upgrading" through several gaming mice, all of them had the side-effect of inducing palm/wrist fatigue even if their shapes were fairly tame or were based off the Razer Deathadder. I never had the uncomfortable feelings after long use while using my old mouse, maybe I just got so used to it that everything else never clicked with my claw gripping hands . But, the side buttons were unfortunately something I couldn't live without in some games and the Comfort 1000 had... no side buttons.
I think there's just something about a simple mouse with a standard shape, no extra buttons or sensitivity adjustments. That reminds me some cheap optical Logitech mice back in the day, around early 2000's, those were pretty good too.
Now I'm casually switching through between the G203/G305 and G302/303 SE, the G303 SE being the main one that stole my hands! I'd prefer to use the older G302 more often but, the one I have is cursed, literally, every time I solder on a new microswitch, within weeks to a month it manages to introduce ghost clicking or other issues. Anyway, I'm so glad Logitech brought back the G302/303 shape through G303 SE model, 'cuz for a while I was bummed when they discontinued making the original models because those had a peculiar shape, almost like one of a kind mice that fit my grip the best so far. So much so I'm tempted to get a secondary G303 SE as a spare. Because you never know when good 'ol Logi decides to discontinue another good mouse.
There was a mouse that blew my mind, when in the early 90s I visited a carpenter's office, I was surprised to see computers (plural!) and most of all the mice they used, which had crosshairs! I couldn't understand how they worked and I still don't, because I know for a fact that it is impossible to draw lines even with an optical mouse, and those were ball mice.
It was part of the mouse, a transparent thingy with a printed crosshair, flat against the desk. Unfortunately when I was there they were using them for normal mouse work, so I don't know if the crosshair had any use.
A brush and some alcohol swabs every week or two can go a long way to keeping your mice and keyboards presentable, even if not 100% clean. Using a mouse on a mouse pad instead of directly on a table also helps reduce the amount of gunk that accumulates on the mouse feet.
The scroll wheel broke on my old G400, still remember that I played BF4 a day before RMA'ing it and it was pure luck that what weapon it gave me when changing the gun.
For me, in both of shape and durability for months without any scroll wheel problems or double clicking that a lot of mice these days, it's the microsoft pro intellimouse easily. The shape is perfect for my hands and I ended up claw gripping my mouse during games since mine are big hands er palms I should say. I liked it so much that I bought two of them!
I'd be hard pressed to consider any mouse to be "the best ever made", but there are a couple that would be strong contenders for among the best.
The first problem is obviously that shape is very subjective. People have different hands, different grips, might even change grip from time to time. (I notice that I'm more fingertip in FPS, but on office stuff and in more relaxed games I tend to palm more)
Then comes functionality. Are you fine with 3 buttons? Do you need 5? Perhaps even more? What about a tilt wheel? Again, highly dependent on individual demand.
Do we look at them how they are now, or how they were back when they were released?
But for my contenders for the best: (In no particular order)
MS WMO 1.1a/Intellimouse Explorer.
The WMO won tournaments. The first "real" gaming mouse in a time when gaming mice weren't a thing. The shape was so ideal that to this day other manufacturers copy it. (Just look at Steelseries and Zowie, who also made and still make great mice)
And the Intellimouse added side buttons and a more ergonomic shape.
Razer Viper.
A 70g mouse in 2005, with ambi shape and a good sensor. No wonder it was popular.
Logitech MX518.
One of the first proper gaming mice. I remember some people buying multiple to have a backup.
Razer Deathadder
It created the typical Razer shape that we have to this day. (Personally, I can't work with it, but there are people who swear by it)
Logitech GPro Wireless.
The first fully accepted wireless gaming mouse. Yes, there were others before. But this showed that wireless can be as good as wired.
Dunno if it's the best ever but the OG G502 was the first mouse that I didn't kill in a year or so and stood the test of time. In fact, it still lives even though that one is relegated to a non-gaming pc.
I still have mine here, running strong for years. Had to clean the contacts on the switches a year ago, but it's again running flawless. From what I've heard the later models tend to start doubleclicking relatively quickly.
Yes, it's a heavy mouse, but that can be changed. I got mine just a hunch under 90g, which is pretty much fine for my large hand.
Logitech MX310 for me. Of all the mice logitech has "re-released" over the years, it pains me so much they never did a update for the 310. All i occasionally miss on it is wheel tilt.
I grew up using a Microsoft InPort mouse - so claw grip as a youngin lest you really want carpel tunnel at age 15.
Fun thing - the encoders on these pre-date optical, so the disks aren't slots with an IR LED - they're more like carbon film stripes (like under gamepad buttons) and metal fingers that conduct when a stripe goes by. The end result is when you "flick" one of these, it gives off the sweetest faint "ringing" sound that's embedded into my childhood. And then when you tell people about it later they look at you like you're crazy. They might not be wrong, but it's not for this reason =D
So the first MX310 I encountered was by fluke at my first "real" workplace (circa 2004?), where by chance someone ordered an extra and sent it my way. I was a fan that the shape was very friendly to claw grip and easy to pick up - since I also am old school in growing up with a)low mouse sensitivity and b)no acceleration so quick flicks of the mouse "to look exactly 180 behind you and then immediately back mid jump" were gold standard in FPS games. Huge bonus that picking it off the surface and repositioning it didn't freak out also. Things I took for granted at the time, only later to discover you couldn't assume future mice would improve on this.
And the 310 was the first optical I had that didn't freak out and "roll over" (when you move the mouse fast, it starts "going backward" = fail) on quick flicks.
I still have that mouse, actually using it as i type this lol.
PTFE feet from OG "Mouse Skates" and replacement mouse wheel stolen from some other logitech mouse, which is why it's not centered correctly. Sadly these are old enough now the rubber is turning into sticky mush. The massive white "staining" on the black surfaces is from before we knew silicone spray while great for a while, reacts with some plastics. Or maybe it was just the propellant used with the spray I used. But nobody cares about that stuff now. Sadly it seems to have also wiped all the labels of text - oops.
Way later when I wanted to get a few more of these, well... apparently no longer offered in US region. Also it seems these became very popular with StarCraft and RTS players - to the point where used ones started getting to ludicrous prices on ebay for awhile. I lucked upon a bulk pack of six at the time (still were being made but only Asian market? thus my guess of competitive RTS maybe?) for like $90 so I got that and have been happy but the whole thing was just bizarre. The RTS thing is just a guess by me, I dunno why these suddenly were so stupid expensive for awhile? They're back to normal prices these days thankfully.
My white whale (literally) is there is a white version of the MX310, I'm guessing themed for the iMac or something. Hardly ever see them and when I did it was stupid price. Again I don't know why?
I ended up settling with the Logitech Prodigy G203 as a modern substitute. But I have to take them apart and bend the main left and right button plastics up to a disturbing degree else they're just waaaay too click happy for me, since again I'm old and actually like to rest my fingers on the buttons in claw grip style. Out of the box if you breath on it you'll register a click, and especially if again you use low sensitivity and pick it up - gripping it will click.
Anyway I apologize for my extensive rambling. Hope it was at least entertaining.
A4Tech Oscar X7 (X-710BK). Cheap (student at the time), light, comfy, that orange button was a 3x click, supported macros, the switches were fixable with WD40 and the wheel sensor with lithium grease (they did tend to stop responding after 3 years, from time to time) and it lasted a good decade before falling on the floor once and completely got obliterated. Probably would still work if that would not had been the case.
Then, for other than gaming, this absolute king:
Virtually indestructible (tested multiple times on several hard floors), long range, comfortable to use, "infinite" scroll, really good sensibility and 18~19 months on a 2450mAh AA battery, and back in 2011 already a banger with the Unify USB dongle (no more paperweights if the dongle got lost or broke).
