Moving on from 8700k

[rv8000]

Most of what i look for is future proof Graphic PCIe 5.0, which i have already on this motherboard, and m.2. Gen5. Don't use anything more than USB3, and have a CAT5 connection to the internet, so no need for WIFI 6E or 7. Those are the two main things i look for in motherboards Graphic/M.2 drives at Gen5.

Memory overclocking would be nice, but all you need is either 6000Mhz for 7000 series or what is it 6400Mhz for 9000 series AMD. Unless you are talking about tightening up the timings to Cas20's. Also memory is really cheap right now too.

You’d probably be fine with an x670/b650 board then.

In terms of memory overclocking I more meant better 2:1 clocking for higher frequencies 8000+. Huge unknown atm until people have their hands on a zen5 part and or in combination with 800 series boards.

Personally I’d wait for the newer boards, but I’m in no rush to buy anything.

 

[Shou Miko]

If I didn't lock myself into micro-atx I would go with the ASRock B650 Steel Legend it's overkill yes but good price when you get 1xpci 5.0 x16, 1xnvme gen5 with 14 x 80amps power stages for the cpu which is like wow at the price - Just ask Steve from Hardware unboxed.

Not other boards really come close to beat it I know the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk has 14 x 80amps power stages too but no gen 5 pci-e or gen5 nvme and it's more expensive.

Link: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...fi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-steel-legend-wifi

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[natr0n]

Why not play in 1080 ?

 

[Toothless]

Why not play in 1080 ?

They already said they're not going backwards.

 

[natr0n]

They already said they're not going backwards.

Changing resolutions is not going backwards. Adjust something simple for a demanding game. Or blow money away.

I forget everyone here is rich.

 

[Toothless]

Changing resolutions is not going backwards. Adjust something simple for a demanding game. Or blow money away.

I forget everyone here is rich.

Last I checked lowering resolution puts more strain on the CPU which OP is trying to upgrade due to it being the bottleneck anyway. That entire logic is backwards.

 

[natr0n]

Last I checked lowering resolution puts more strain on the CPU which OP is trying to upgrade due to it being the bottleneck anyway. That entire logic is backwards.

anything I type I'm wrong... so much for suggestions on a forum. Also, your logic is from 20 years ago.

 

[Shou Miko]

anything I type I'm wrong... so much for suggestions on a forum. Also, your logic is from 20 years ago.

I know this feeling lately, before I started my vacation this was the feeling I had no matter what I typed

 

[Darkholm]

Best suggestion I can see, we're not too far away from launch. I will say this though, coming from a 7900x3d owner, I would keep my eye on the 7800x3d.

Thanks All of us are suffering from very contagious disease - upgradeatitis and the best antidote for it is self-control and peace of mind I remember that I have waited 1st gen Ryzen for 1+ year on i7 2600K and when 2nd March 2017 came, I waited 6 weeks more to get R5 1600 and MBO+RAM combo which actually worked (more polished BIOS, cheaper 6c/12t CPU).

So let's wait new boards and ironing out all teething problems that could occur with Zen5

 

[Dr. Dro]

8700K to 9700X will be a massive upgrade. Current motherboards will work, the new chipset from AMD will still take some time. A good match for it is the ROG Strix B650E-E, very good and feature complete motherboard. I'd pick those two up plus 32 GB of DDR5-6000 CL30 or so, cheers

 

[Darkholm]

8700K to 9700X will be a massive upgrade. Current motherboards will work, the new chipset from AMD will still take some time. A good match for it is the ROG Strix B650E-E, very good and feature complete motherboard. I'd pick those two up plus 32 GB of DDR5-6000 CL30 or so, cheers

B650E-E I had opportunity to test it for a month. I am not quite sure that I would give 250-300 EUR for the board which every BIOS update is hit or miss. Great board on paper, but in reality, not quite bang for a buck.
If B650 is way to go - I would go for 100+ EUR cheaper solution, also Asus.

But yes, I agree that jump from 8700K to 9700X will be colossal, no matter which motherboard

 

[dirtyferret]

I forget everyone here is rich.

I don't mean to brag but I can afford three bags of groceries each week

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I totally forgot about FC6, yes I'm having issues with that title as well!

This is the experience of actually gaming instead of running a 25 second benchmark, or using canned ones. You discover that ray tracing, max crowds and traffic, intense fights, all eat CPU performance. In some titles like the Spiderman games, the CPU having to do the decompression Kraken handles on the PS5 adds load too. Those are games with everything cranked up that will make that old i7 falter at times too.

I would not throw a single penny into a dead platform given your situation, AM5 is the only good investment. Everything else is already fully tapped out for performance.

 

[Toothless]

anything I type I'm wrong... so much for suggestions on a forum. Also, your logic is from 20 years ago.

Higher resolution, more load on GPU, driver overheads??

Also if that's your mentality then no one can help you.

 

[Dr. Dro]

B650E-E I had opportunity to test it for a month. I am not quite sure that I would give 250-300 EUR for the board which every BIOS update is hit or miss. Great board on paper, but in reality, not quite bang for a buck.
If B650 is way to go - I would go for 100+ EUR cheaper solution, also Asus.

But yes, I agree that jump from 8700K to 9700X will be colossal, no matter which motherboard

Early in AMD platforms is always hit or miss. Guaranteed it'll be one of the more solid boards around when things settle down. Shame they still insist on not adding q-code reader on Strix-F boards though.

 

[DrCR]

If I didn't lock myself into micro-atx I would go with the ASRock B650 Steel Legend it's overkill yes but good price when you get 1xpci 5.0 x16, 1xnvme gen5 with 14 x 80amps power stages for the cpu which is like wow at the price - Just ask Steve from Hardware unboxed.

Not other boards really come close to beat it I know the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk has 14 x 80amps power stages too but no gen 5 pci-e or gen5 nvme and it's more expensive.

Link: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...fi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-steel-legend-wifi

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I’m a fan of ASRock’s Steel Legend line as well. Worth the bit extra imho.

 

[JIWIL]

I was in a similar situation when Zen4 came out; on an 8600k+2080ti. I run 1440p and generally framecap at 60/72/85/100 depending. I picked up a 7600x + MSI B650 MAG + 32GB DDR5-6000/36 and kept using the 2080ti for a few more months.

The numbers probably wouldn't have told me much given the framecaps, but the experience was night and day. Particularly in Creation Engine games and other stuff that loves mem speeds and single thread performance. Honestly went with the 7600x just as a stopgap until the Zen4 3DVcache chips arrived, but I'm not feeling the urge to upgrade yet.

Paid the early adopter tax on mobo/ram but would do it again in a heartbeat. Initially I had some regrets about idle power use and boot times, but those seem pretty trivial now as I read about current gen intel woes.

 

[dgianstefani]

For gaming 7800X3D is literally faster.

Get that, or wait for 9800X3D or Arrow Lake.

 

[eidairaman1]

Really?
In gaming?

8700k is a 6core/12thread CPU like many today but 12MB of cache and 2666MT/s memory support ain’t going nowhere with todays games.
No wonder games stutter and/or frame rate goes deep.

Typical troll ofc

I’m a fan of ASRock’s Steel Legend line as well. Worth the bit extra imho.

It replaced Asus TUF for me when i Built the AM4 5800 rig, still Going Strong and still in it's infancy of 2.75 years

 

[freeagent]

The correct answer here is:

Anything.

My 5900X boosting to 5150MHz is like a 6GHz 8700K

 

[eidairaman1]

Go with a Middle Range chipset but on a motherboard that doesn't compromise on component and build quality, get a mid range to low end cpu for now then upgrade to the latest CPU. AMD is the way.

The correct answer here is:

Anything.

My 5900X boosting to 5150MHz is like a 6GHz 8700K

Yeah ddr4, is good but now there is 2nd gen ddr5 cpus coming out, latest tech should deliver.

(Psst No complaints from the ex GF of the 5800 (NOT X, before 5700X was a SKU) rig since being built Christmas 2021)

Otherwise pull out all of the stops and Build a Threadripper or Epyc DDR5 Rig!

 

[trparky]

If you do decide to go with AMD 7000-series, don't be afraid of B650 boards. Sure, they might not have all the whiz-bang features of the higher-rated chipsets but that doesn't mean that the B650 boards don't deliver.

 

[eidairaman1]

If you do decide to go with AMD 7000-series, don't be afraid of B650 boards. Sure, they might not have all the whiz-bang features of the higher-rated chipsets but that doesn't mean that the B650 boards don't deliver.

Nothing wrong doing it, the B550 Rig I built above is killin it with the mid range chipset.

 

[trparky]

Nothing wrong doing it, the B550 Rig I built above is killin it with the mid range chipset.

Me too. I have a Gigabyte board with the B650 chipset and its performance has been nothing short of phenomenal.

 

[eidairaman1]

Me too. I have a Gigabyte board with the B650 chipset and its performance has been nothing short of phenomenal.

AsRock Steel Legend, it is the new 'The Ultimate Force' for me since Asus dropped the ball with AM4~

I'm glad it is working for you, because Gigabyte for me turned me away from them since AM3...