Is High Power 600W Bronze Eco good enough?

[Ege56813]

Hello. I want to make it clear that I don't know much about PSUs so I might ask a bit odd questions.

I run a E5 2690V3 with turbo unlock. Pulls 100W while gaming and 140W max on raw stress testing. For gpu, I run a RX 580 2048SP 8GB which has a TDP of 150W. For RAMs, I run 4X8 32GB 2133MHZ DDR4 RAMs that are running in Quad Channel.

For storage, I run 3x hard drives, 1x sata ssd and 2x m2 nvme SSD.

I'm thinking of getting a High Power 600W Eco Bronze PSU. Any good? The whole build was 200 usd, so please dont really exceed the 50usd 55usd range. thank you.

I also live in Turkey where prices gone skyrocket high. Economy is dogshit here. Thank you all.

 

[dirtyferret]

Is it good? No
Will it work because you pull around 250w gaming? Probably but I assume you are getting a new version not a used, it's an older platform.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Technically speaking, 600W will suffice, as seen here. Note you did not mention anything about cooling so I added 3 x 140mm case fans to the calculations and did not include any alternative CPU cooling solutions. So you may need to adjust up or down for cooling.

"High Power" brand PSUs are not known for having stellar performance. That said, I am not saying they have a bad reputation - just not a good one like the upper-tier Corsairs, SuperFlower or Seasonic.

You also did not say how this computer is used. While most tasks do NOT max out power demands for the CPU and GPU at the same time, some do. With that in mind, I personally would like a little more headroom and would try to go for at least 650W Gold from a reputable maker. Even just that little bit of extra headroom should allow the PSU to operated a little cooler (and perhaps quieter). This could be significant if your room is not climate controlled.

 

[Ruru]

AFAIK High Power is a mediocre brand at best.

Even if you have a budget setup, don't still cheap out of the PSU.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Even if you have a budget setup, don't still cheap out of the PSU.

Totally agree but note the OP said he lives in Turkey so his affordable choice may be greatly limited.

 

[dirtyferret]

AFAIK High Power is a mediocre brand at best.

High Power, AKA Sirtec, AKA Highpower has been around for a while building for people like OCZ and PCP&P (after OCZ purchased them). Even EVGA (shockingly) tapped them for a recent build.

OP said he lives in Turkey so his affordable choice may be greatly limited.

that's the thing, easy to say just get this in NA but you have people list what some PC parts cost in other parts of the world and its shocking compared to their wage/salary

 

[Ege56813]

Is it good? No
Will it work because you pull around 250w gaming? Probably but I assume you are getting a new version not a used, it's an older platform.

I use X99 platform.

Technically speaking, 600W will suffice, as seen here. Note you did not mention anything about cooling so I added 3 x 140mm case fans to the calculations and did not include any alternative CPU cooling solutions. So you may need to adjust up or down for cooling.

"High Power" brand PSUs are not known for having stellar performance. That said, I am not saying they have a bad reputation - just not a good one like the upper-tier Corsairs, SuperFlower or Seasonic.

You also did not say how this computer is used. While most tasks do NOT max out power demands for the CPU and GPU at the same time, some do. With that in mind, I personally would like a little more headroom and would try to go for at least 650W Gold from a reputable maker. Even just that little bit of extra headroom should allow the PSU to operated a little cooler (and perhaps quieter). This could be significant if your room is not climate controlled.

I mean at max max my cpu pulls 140w, and that is prime95 which is unrealistic amount of load. Gpu is 150w. lets say 100w for the mobo and the rams, thats 390w. 50w for the fans (3x cpu fan, 2x gpu fan, 2x case fan, 1x laptop vacuum cooler fan) that is 440w. The PSU is rated for 600w, so 160W headroom is not bad at all imo.

is it?

AFAIK High Power is a mediocre brand at best.

Even if you have a budget setup, don't still cheap out of the PSU.

Of course PSU would be the last component you'd want to cheap out. one small failure and goodbye to your whole system lol.

High Power, AKA Sirtec, AKA Highpower has been around for a while building for people like OCZ and PCP&P (after OCZ purchased them). Even EVGA (shockingly) tapped them for a recent build.


that's the thing, easy to say just get this in NA but you have people list what some PC parts cost in other parts of the world and its shocking compared to their wage/salary

when converted to usd, I make like 2 usd per hour. that explains it. And also know that there are shit ton of taxes here which inflate the cost of a psu.

 

[dirtyferret]

I use X99 platform.

I meant power supply platform, sorry for the confusion

when converted to usd, I make like 2 usd per hour. that explains it. And also know that there are shit ton of taxes here which inflate the cost of a psu.

I get it

 

[Bill_Bright]

I mean at max max my cpu pulls 140w, and that is prime95 which is unrealistic amount of load. Gpu is 150w. lets say 100w for the mobo and the rams, thats 390w. 50w for the fans (3x cpu fan, 2x gpu fan, 2x case fan, 1x laptop vacuum cooler fan) that is 440w. The PSU is rated for 600w, so 160W headroom is not bad at all imo.

I understand and agree - and I even said, and showed above with the calculator link, that 600W will suffice. I just said I personally would like a little more head room - especially considering that lackluster reputation from that brand.

But is should be noted that when determining power requirements, one must assume the CPU, GPU, RAM, all drives, all fans, the motherboard itself, and any other attached devices that draw power from that supply will, at some point in time, demand maximum power at the exact same time - regardless how unlikely that event might be.

If that High Power 600W is your only viable choice, it "should" work fine.

 

[Ege56813]

This? http://www.highpower-tech.com/eng/products_main.php?class=20200723162044&id=20200828103844
Group regulated, I would avoid it, but good psu's cost a lot since covid.

Yes that one exactly.

I understand and agree - and I even said, and showed above with the calculator link, that 600W will suffice. I just said I personally would like a little more head room - especially considering that lackluster reputation from that brand.

But is should be noted that when determining power requirements, one must assume the CPU, GPU, RAM, all drives, all fans, the motherboard itself, and any other attached devices that draw power from that supply will, at some point in time, demand maximum power at the exact same time - regardless how unlikely that event might be.

If that High Power 600W is your only viable choice, it "should" work fine.

I also can buy a MSI MAG 500W one. A500BN? idk. A600DN if i really really give a shit ton of money.

 

[Bill_Bright]

500W, even the best from the best maker is not enough. And the MSI A600DN is only 80 PLUS "standard" (sometimes called "White") so it is even less efficient than that High Power "Bronze". And while 80 PLUS is NOT an indication of PSU quality or reliability, being more efficient is still desirable. So if me, I would stick with the High Power.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Don't understand why you quoted me on that but okay - if it makes you feel better.

I still would not get a supply rated at or named as 500W.

 

[Chrispy_]

Group-regulated PSUs are awful by modern standards because most of them struggle to keep voltages within spec given today's almost exclusively 12V components.

Even so, the downside to poor voltage regulation is stress on the VRM components of your GPU and motherboard which *can* lead to much shorter lifespan of those products, so really it's a balancing act of how much you care about your motherboard and GPU vs how much you are willing to spend on a PSU.

Personally, I avoid cheap PSUs like the plague - they are the one and only component that is a false-economy to cut corners on because a bad PSU can damage everything else in your PC and be the cause of really annoying system instability that's very hard to nail down; you literally have to rule out EVERYTHING else, component by component, unless you have a good PSU you can swap it for to do A-B testing. Let's face it, nobody does that because if they had a better PSU to test with, they'd be using that in the first place!

 

[P4-630]

Totally agree but note the OP said he lives in Turkey so his affordable choice may be greatly limited.

Budget is the problem.

 

[Ege56813]

The High Power is only 552W or 540W? Not sure cuz they can't count, it's 12V 45A which is 540W, but they say 552W. Group regulated and 200-240V only, if OP has frequent brown outs, good luck.
The A600DN is some multi rail junk, but it's at least full voltage range and 576W.

I would get the A550BN if available or maybe A550BNL.

Whats a brown out? Electricity cutting off?

Group-regulated PSUs are awful by modern standards because most of them struggle to keep voltages within spec given today's almost exclusively 12V components.

Even so, the downside to poor voltage regulation is stress on the VRM components of your GPU and motherboard which *can* lead to much shorter lifespan of those products, so really it's a balancing act of how much you care about your motherboard and GPU vs how much you are willing to spend on a PSU.

Personally, I avoid cheap PSUs like the plague - they are the one and only component that is a false-economy to cut corners on because a bad PSU can damage everything else in your PC and be the cause of really annoying system instability that's very hard to nail down; you literally have to rule out EVERYTHING else, component by component, unless you have a good PSU you can swap it for to do A-B testing. Let's face it, nobody does that because if they had a better PSU to test with, they'd be using that in the first place!

I was using a xilence xp 550 passive pfc psu before w/o 80+ or whatever from 2006 but it died on me. I gotta buy a new psu.

500W, even the best from the best maker is not enough. And the MSI A600DN is only 80 PLUS "standard" (sometimes called "White") so it is even less efficient than that High Power "Bronze". And while 80 PLUS is NOT an indication of PSU quality or reliability, being more efficient is still desirable. So if me, I would stick with the High Power.

Time to get the High Power then.

 

[Shrek]

Whats a brown out?

Low voltage.

Group-regulated PSUs are awful by modern standards because most of them struggle to keep voltages within spec given today's almost exclusively 12V components.

Confused; I understood that group regulated supplies regulated the 12V but not the 5V/3.3V

 

[dirtyferret]

Low voltage.




Confused; I understood that group regulated supplies regulated the 12V but not the 5V/3.3V

group - 12v & 5v generated together, 3.3v separate if I recall correctly. independent - 12v rail is regulated separately and 5v/3.3v together

 

[Shrek]

I was using a xilence xp 550 passive pfc psu before w/o 80+ or whatever from 2006 but it died on me.

Is local repair an option?

 

[Toothless]

Hey what are your system specs? We kinda need to know all that since quite a few people here know a good amount about x99 platforms and can help.

 

[SalemTheKit]

I also live in Turkey where prices gone skyrocket high.

Can you give your budget in TRY by any chance? I'm looking through akakce right now and I'm finding a few but idk if they're in your budget or not.

 

[Hyderz]

Totally agree but note the OP said he lives in Turkey so his affordable choice may be greatly limited.

most of the things in turkey now is highly inflated.... good mention

 

[eidairaman1]

If anything look at a CWT based unit

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Even if you have a budget setup, don't still cheap out of the PSU.

QFT, because that also increases the chance of the PSU also having bad caps.

 

[AleXXX666]

I meant power supply platform, sorry for the confusion

LMFAO I actually thought SAME about chipset & cpu - X99 is old lol.

 

[Ege56813]

Is local repair an option?

that psu is so old even I wouldnt trust it..

Hey what are your system specs? We kinda need to know all that since quite a few people here know a good amount about x99 platforms and can help.

E5 2690v3 TBU 3.5 ghz all core 140w tdp
rx 580 2048sp 150w tdp
4x8 quad channel ram ddr4 2133mhz NON ECC
X99 QD4 2024 Mobo
2x nvme ssd
3x sata hdd
1x sata ssd

Can you give your budget in TRY by any chance? I'm looking through akakce right now and I'm finding a few but idk if they're in your budget or not.

Like 1000 to 1700 1800. Roughly translates to 50 usd or something.

Im thinking of getting the high power eco 600 bronze. or msi mag a600dn 80+

LMFAO I actually thought SAME about chipset & cpu - X99 is old lol.

...psus have platforms? I thought it was only ATX and MATX or whatever sorry

If anything look at a CWT based unit

whats a cwt based unit?

Low voltage.




Confused; I understood that group regulated supplies regulated the 12V but not the 5V/3.3V

Ah no, low voltages does not happen here. Maaaybe once a month. It stays around 230 250V.