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My RAM and VRAM keep piling up, and I don't know why. While I'm using my PC during the day, playing games or consuming content (mostly playing games), the RAM and VRAM keep piling up little by little, even when i close the game and just have two or three applications open, and my RAM usage is 12 - 14GB out of 16GB, also of the VRAM, 8 - 10GB out of 12GB, just being on the desktop or in chrome, not even playing games.
I've already tried to clear the cache from the AMD software and it doesn't do anything, the only solution is to restart the PC, this didn't happen before, it could be the GPU drivers (Adrenalin 24.7.1). I realized this when I opened Wallpaper Engine, and it told me that the video memory was insufficient, and I didn't have anything open. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
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Make sure tabs open in Chrome aren't mining stuff in the background.
 

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How do i know that? That can happen in a legal page like youtube or twich?
 

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Just wondering that is it actually RAM usage or allocation.
 

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I think it's RAM usage, I use AMD Adrenalin metrics and HWinfo shows RAM usage.
 

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That's the thing, I don't, the PC is turned on all day, I shut it down in the night when I'm going to sleep. But is weird, because sometimes this thing of the ram accumulating happens, sometimes happens sometimes don't.
 
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Any software you installed that we should know? Sounds like something is happening in the background
 
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Dont use Chrome. it eat up ram even when not open runs as service. its trash software.
 
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Screenshot task manager sort by memory usage, post here.

Example...



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Probably some crypto minor trojan from a website
 
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My RAM and VRAM keep piling up, and I don't know why. While I'm using my PC during the day, playing games or consuming content (mostly playing games), the RAM and VRAM keep piling up little by little, even when i close the game and just have two or three applications open, and my RAM usage is 12 - 14GB out of 16GB, also of the VRAM, 8 - 10GB out of 12GB, just being on the desktop or in chrome, not even playing games.
I've already tried to clear the cache from the AMD software and it doesn't do anything, the only solution is to restart the PC, this didn't happen before, it could be the GPU drivers (Adrenalin 24.7.1). I realized this when I opened Wallpaper Engine, and it told me that the video memory was insufficient, and I didn't have anything open. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
My PC specifications:
-Ryzen 5 5600.
-Radeon RX 6700 XT.
-16gb RAM Corsair Vengance RS 3600MHZ
-Gigabyte M550M DS3H rev 1.2
-SSD 480Gb Western Digital Green WD NVME SN350 2400Mb/s
Are you leaving your system on all the time? That can do it. You should be shutting your system down completely(no sleep or hibernation) when you walk away from it for more than an hour or so.
 
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Are you leaving your system on all the time? That can do it. You should be shutting your system down completely(no sleep or hibernation) when you walk away from it for more than an hour or so.
Leaving a system on all the time generally isn't an issue there is always an offender. OP must have a misbehaving website, program, driver etc...
 
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Sounds like you might want a fresh install of windows. Also I'm not going to say firefox doesn't also use a lot of ram.... but.... I would personally use that over chrome.
 
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I have my daily-driver on for long periods and can still run large amounts of stuff with no problem. I only reboot then shut down for periodical cache-flushing to the SSD, so nothing is corrupted.

OTOH, the OLED of course, is regularly turned off.

With LCD, I can have still images all day and night long.
 

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Any software you installed that we should know? Sounds like something is happening in the background
No, i checked, and there is nothing that consume much of the ram.
Screenshot task manager sort by memory usage, post here.
Here. about an hour ago i used TronScript, maybe that helps, but i did have to reboot. In the right corner are the AMD Metrics. You can see there is not much programs open that consumes much RAM. (CefSharp.browser.Subprocces is from Razer Central)

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Probably some crypto minor trojan from a website
In another forum someone told me the same, he recommend me to reinstall windows, make a killdisk for the SSD and flash a new bios for the board (idk if is the Mobo or the GPU bios). How i can know if it is some crypto trojan? I recently ran TronScript, maybe that wiped out the trojan.



PD: I didn't reply the other replies, but i read them, thank you for your help. :love:
 
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This sounds like a memory leak at first glance. Since it is happening in VRAM, it suggests it may specifically be a leak in VRAM and spilling into system memory (this can occur because up to half of your system memory can be used as VRAM). If it was a memory leak occurring in system memory, the inverse couldn't happen as memory can't spill into VRAM as far as I'm aware?

Shutting down doesn't restart the kernel, but restarting does, so if this "sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't", then the fact that you shut down sometimes might be part of it.

Within task manager, show two pictures; both in the "performance" tab focused with one focused on "memory" and the other focused on "GPU". This might give a better idea of what is going on.

The processes list doesn't always show the full picture, especially if it's a leak in something related to the system (drivers) as opposed to an application in the user space. Your process list doesn't show any single thing as unusually high.
 
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Leaving a system on all the time generally isn't an issue there is always an offender. OP must have a misbehaving website, program, driver etc...
And it's fairly common thing. It's unlikely to ever go away because of the lack of attention paid to programmatic tidiness and precision.

I see this kind of thing all the time and when I ask how often people shut down their systems when they walk away, most say they never do. Yet when I tell them to shut the system down completely overnight or whenever they're not using it, TADA!, their problems magically go away. Even phones/tablets need to be shut down and fresh restarted once a week.

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Try this for a few weeks. Shut down your system every night before going to sleep and chime back in with how your system is doing. I'd bet real money you'll see an improvement.
 
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And it's fairly common thing. It's unlikely to ever go away because of the lack of attention paid to programmatic tidiness and precision.

I see this kind of thing all the time and when I ask how often people shut down their systems when they walk away, most say they never do. Yet when I tell them to shut the system down completely overnight or whenever they're not using it, TADA!, their problems magically go away. Even phones/tablets need to be shut down and fresh restarted once a week.

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Try this for a few weeks. Shut down your system every night before going to sleep and chime back in with how your system is doing. I'd bet real money you'll see an improvement.
Post #7 he said he does shut it down at night when he goes to bed.

That's the thing, I don't, the PC is turned on all day, I shut it down in the night when I'm going to sleep. But is weird, because sometimes this thing of the ram accumulating happens, sometimes happens sometimes don't.
 
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The next time you have the problem, before you shutdown or reboot your PC, go to the details tab of task manager and add the columns "Dedicated GPU memory" and "Shared GPU memory".

Sort by those columns and see if you can identify a program taking up an unusual amount of GPU memory.

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No, i checked, and there is nothing that consume much of the ram.

Here. about an hour ago i used TronScript, maybe that helps, but i did have to reboot. In the right corner are the AMD Metrics. You can see there is not much programs open that consumes much RAM. (CefSharp.browser.Subprocces is from Razer Central)

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In another forum someone told me the same, he recommend me to reinstall windows, make a killdisk for the SSD and flash a new bios for the board (idk if is the Mobo or the GPU bios). How i can know if it is some crypto trojan? I recently ran TronScript, maybe that wiped out the trojan.



PD: I didn't reply the other replies, but i read them, thank you for your help. :love:
Don't BIOS flash its generally not a solution unless that bios has a known issue.

Clean install the OS from a formatted drive. Minimize the amount of third party apps you use (there's a few GB's there... Icue, Synapse, etc. You mention some others... They also cost you CPU performance). Use Firefox. If you can run the system on your CPU (integrated GPU), do that - don't install your GPU yet. This way you can quickly spot if the problem originates from VRAM.

I'm quite sure if you follow those steps you will not be seeing the same behaviour anymore. Then you can swap to Chrome. If the issue appears, you've got your culprit. If it doesn't, by all means use Chrome. Then if the issue still doesn't appear, add your GPU to the system.

You DO NOT EVER NEED a third party app for any Windows business or for keeping your PC 'in good shape'. Just use the built in Windows security. Its just as effective and you're not more secure with anything else in terms of virus scanners or real time protection or whatever. Its all bullshit. I'm not sure what you mean by make a killdisk for the SSD, but just format the drive instead. Its a basic Windows functionality and it wipes the drive. Best way to make a hard reset there is.
 
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You definitely have something weird going on.
I like to run automation/compute stuff in the background but even I keep it under control.
When my system is somewhat busy I'll have some stupid level of activity going on with CPU+MEM.
R5 3600, 64GB, RX 580 and a stream going while staging another game:

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Also I never shut this down until some superfluous Microsoft update hijacks the whole computer for restart every 2nd Tuesday.
You're on a much newer loadout with double the fast local storage and have significantly better performance all around.
This is what semi-busy looks like for me:

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If your system has a bunch of background stuff going on, it's going to look like that but I don't see that going on here.
You have tons of support apps, Corsair iCUE, Razer, SnagIt, OneDrive, Steam, Discord, Chrome...This is basic use but bloated.
I don't rely on tons of support apps and quit leaving messaging apps open other than Steam as I don't like being accessible.
Try installing to a new disk, trace the resource usage as you reinstall each app and that should tell you everything.
 
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My RAM and VRAM keep piling up, and I don't know why. While I'm using my PC during the day, playing games or consuming content (mostly playing games), the RAM and VRAM keep piling up little by little, even when i close the game and just have two or three applications open, and my RAM usage is 12 - 14GB out of 16GB, also of the VRAM, 8 - 10GB out of 12GB, just being on the desktop or in chrome, not even playing games.
I've already tried to clear the cache from the AMD software and it doesn't do anything, the only solution is to restart the PC, this didn't happen before, it could be the GPU drivers (Adrenalin 24.7.1). I realized this when I opened Wallpaper Engine, and it told me that the video memory was insufficient, and I didn't have anything open. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
My PC specifications:
-Ryzen 5 5600.
-Radeon RX 6700 XT.
-16gb RAM Corsair Vengance RS 3600MHZ
-Gigabyte M550M DS3H rev 1.2
-SSD 480Gb Western Digital Green WD NVME SN350 2400Mb/s
If you are using AMD metrics on Adrenalin software, try to disable (gray out) all of them and also disable overlay and use your PC for 1-2days.
I never really liked that feature in adrenalin drivers. But not sure if this causing you issue as I never used it extensively and long term.

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No, i checked, and there is nothing that consume much of the ram.

Here. about an hour ago i used TronScript, maybe that helps, but i did have to reboot. In the right corner are the AMD Metrics. You can see there is not much programs open that consumes much RAM. (CefSharp.browser.Subprocces is from Razer Central)

View attachment 358555

In another forum someone told me the same, he recommend me to reinstall windows, make a killdisk for the SSD and flash a new bios for the board (idk if is the Mobo or the GPU bios). How i can know if it is some crypto trojan? I recently ran TronScript, maybe that wiped out the trojan.



PD: I didn't reply the other replies, but i read them, thank you for your help. :love:
I see iCue, I see Razer Synapse, that's bloat to me.
 
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