Orico O7000 2 TB

[W1zzard]

The Orico O7000 uses the very popular Maxiotech MAP1602 controller, paired with QLC NAND, to build a highly affordable soild-state drive. The real-life testing in our review confirms: this is the fastest QLC based SSD, even beating most other TLC SSDs on the market.

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[chrcoluk]

I feel they need to get this below £100/100 euros.

 

[bug]

You love copy/pasting this:

PCI-Express 4.0 x4 is used as the host interface to the rest of the system, which doubles the theoretical bandwidth compared to PCIe 3.0 x4.

but honestly, who even has PCIe 3.0 running in their system in 2024?
PCIe 4.0 is perfectly fine (there is no point in paying the PCIe 5.0 tax), but that formula feels like you're bending over backwards over the wrong argument.

Also, throttling while reading, there's something you don't see every day (yes, I get the heatsink is included, kudos for that).

 

[edlee]

Good review, but on specs page you list a PCIe Gen 5.0 interface, but this shows elsewhere as 4.0

 

[chrcoluk]

I expect quite a lot still have gen 3 lanes/slots, my system is a modern chipset and all my x1 slots are gen 3 and I have a gen 3x4 used by my Intel DC P4600 and a spare M.2 which is also gen 3. I think nothing wrong with that comment been put in there, its only one line.

 

[TheLostSwede]

but honestly, who even has PCIe 3.0 running in their system in 2024?

Huh? Most chipsets still have PCIe 3.0 lanes. My 10 Gbps network card is in a PCIe 3.0 x2 slot, as it doesn't need more bandwidth.
For SSDs, I guess not too many, unless they have an older computer or some weird setup where one M.2 is PCIe 3.0.

 

[kilis]

Thanks for the review.

So looks like QLC not avoidable for future of m2 ssd s.
İf i decided to use it for large capacity archiving purposes only (almost no erase-write cycles), should i still worry about long term reliability ?

 

[W1zzard]

Good review, but on specs page you list a PCIe Gen 5.0 interface, but this shows elsewhere as 4.0

Typo fixed

 

[THANATOS]

Write speed starts out at a solid 4.5 GB/s. These speeds are sustained until 464 GB have been written, which means the drive will fill 90% of its capacity in SLC mode first. Once the SLC cache is full, write speeds fall off a cliff and reach only 160 MB/s, which is very slow—comparable to s HDD. Filling the whole capacity completes at 167 MB/s on average, which is the worst result in our test group, even slower than most SATA drives.

The average write speed doesn't look correct to me.
If this SSD writes with ~4500MB/s until 464GB(~22.5% of the disk) and the rest of the disk with ~160MB/s then the average can't be only 167MB/s.
I got ~1115MB/s for arithmetic mean and ~333MB/s for geometric mean with the speeds above.

Can you please doublecheck or correct me, If I am wrong. Thank you.

edit: Ouch, It's going even under 70MB/s.

 

[Broken Processor]

Just had a quick look on Amazon and for 256.00 I have a choice of either 4tb WD SN850X or 4tb Samsung 990 pro that's about 30 quid more than the 4tb variant of this and the 2tb SN850X is 135.00 & 990 pro is 145.00 so not that great value IMO.

 

[W1zzard]

The average write speed doesn't look correct to me.
If this SSD writes with ~4500MB/s until 464GB(~22.5% of the disk) and the rest of the disk with ~160MB/s then the average can't be only 167MB/s.
I got ~1115MB/s for arithmetic mean and ~333MB/s for geometric mean with the speeds above.

Can you please doublecheck or correct me, If I am wrong. Thank you.

http://imgur.com/PIsWIRN

 

[ymdhis]

You love copy/pasting this:

but honestly, who even has PCIe 3.0 running in their system in 2024?

Anyone on B450/x470 or on a B550 with a 5600G. I have PCIE 4.0 NVME drives (Samsung 990 Pro) that max at 3000MB/s and 1500MB/s because the cpu only has PCIE 3.0 and one of the slots is even only x2. Up side is that they never throttle, even on full drive write, unless it's because of thermals. And I can upgrade motherboards later to get the full speed.

They are still faster than this QLC turd of a drive, mind you.

 

[jonup]

@W1zzard I see that the conclusion states that the drive is not available in the states but I picked one up for $99+tax the other day. https://a.co/d/4rG5Rpq It's $115 now.

I feel they need to get this below £100/100 euros.

 

[Marcus L]

I have a b550 board and only the 1st M2 slot is pcie 4.0, the 2nd is 3.0 and likely the 3 other pcie slots aside from the 1st pcie 4.0 x 16 slot, this is not common?

Also how often do people regularly exceed the SLC cache? I have 2 1TB drives, one is pcie 4 and the other is pcie 3, I think there has been one time I have exceeded it when I swapped the pcie 4 drive to the C: drive and had to copy all of the contents of it to the other, generally I am not transferring 400GB+ of data between nvme drives and would be more worried about the longevity of the drive if I was doing, OR knowing that I am going to be doing that on a regular basis buy a better performing drive with dram cache and spend a little bit more, not one of the cheapest per TB drives on the market

 

[Chrispy_]

QLC for the same money as TLC is an automatic fail and a huge insult.

"Here, pay the same money for shitty NAND that has a quarter the endurance and absolutely falls on its arse if you ever exhaust the cache"

QLC is cheaper than TLC. So where are our lower prices, huh? I'm sick of getting ripped off by SSD vendors. I know the controllers are more complex but if you can't make a drive considerably cheaper than a TLC drive then please don't bother. A QLC drive at the same price as a TLC drive is utterly pointless - it's all the downsides of QLC with absolutely nothing positive to make a case for itself whatsoever - worse in every single way for no justifiable reason....

 

[Marcus L]

QLC for the same money as TLC is an automatic fail and a huge insult.

"Here, pay the same money for shitty NAND that has a quarter the endurance and absolutely falls on its arse if you ever exhaust the cache"

QLC is cheaper than TLC. So where are our lower prices, huh? I'm sick of getting ripped off by SSD vendors. I know the controllers are more complex but if you can't make a drive considerably cheaper than a TLC drive then please don't bother. A QLC drive at the same price as a TLC drive is utterly pointless - it's all the downsides of QLC with absolutely nothing positive to make a case for itself whatsoever - worse in every single way for no justifiable reason....

is it not cheaper at $56 per TB? TBH I don't keep track of the differences between them so genuine question?

 

[bug]

QLC for the same money as TLC is an automatic fail and a huge insult.

"Here, pay the same money for shitty NAND that has a quarter the endurance and absolutely falls on its arse if you ever exhaust the cache"

QLC is cheaper than TLC. So where are our lower prices, huh? I'm sick of getting ripped off by SSD vendors. I know the controllers are more complex but if you can't make a drive considerably cheaper than a TLC drive then please don't bother. A QLC drive at the same price as a TLC drive is utterly pointless - it's all the downsides of QLC with absolutely nothing positive to make a case for itself whatsoever - worse in every single way for no justifiable reason....

Tbh the cache is large enough that you'll have to try really hard to exhaust it.

is it not cheaper at $56 per TB? TBH I don't keep track of the differences between them so genuine question?

I got 4TB TLC last year for ~$220. And not the crappy YMTC kind.

Edit: Still available, go figure: 4TB TLC SSD

 

[Xuper]

What's problem with QLC?

 

[webdeveloper]

THAT SPEED DOWN cliff is insane! Copying the large number of files will make you cry (a lot) with this drive

 

[bug]

What's problem with QLC?

Low endurance, high write latency. When you divide the same voltage in more levels, less electrical charge has to escape before the data becomes garbled. You can get all that without a meaningful cost reduction over a TLC drive.

 

[Xuper]

Low endurance, high write latency. When you divide the same voltage in more levels, less electrical charge has to escape before the data becomes garbled. You can get all that without a meaningful cost reduction over a TLC drive.

oh damn. That's really bad. I guess I should avoid QLC SSD at all cost.

 

[bug]

oh damn. That's really bad. I guess I should avoid QLC SSD at all cost.

Not at all cost, it can be an option for a game drive or a media drive (many reads for each write, no cold storage). But again, it must come cheaper than a TLC alternative.

 

[mechtech]

Nice review as always.

Still disappointed in the lack of "affordable" 4TB and larger ssds.

 

[Marcus L]

Nice review as always.

Still disappointed in the lack of "affordable" 4TB and larger ssds.

http://Amazon.com

 

[mechtech]

http://Amazon.com

Amazon.ca

(then add 13% tax)

Last year I got this one for $330CAD - this or better would be my expectation for "affordable"

Amazon.ca