All-New MSI X870(E) Motherboards - Built to Dominate Next-Gen AI Computing

[TheLostSwede]

MSI unveils the X870E and X870 motherboards, designed to harness the full power of AMD's Ryzen 9000 Series desktop processors. The lineup includes four models: MEG X870E GODLIKE, MPG X870E CARBON WIFI, MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI, and PRO X870-P WIFI. These motherboards deliver exceptional value and performance with cutting-edge features and exclusive MSI innovations. Offering top components, innovative features, and easy DIY options, MSI's X870E and X870 motherboards make building and using your PC seamless.

Introducing MSI's Ultra Connect feature in the X870E and X870 motherboards, offering next-gen networking, storage, and expansion. With built-in 5G LAN and Wi-Fi 7, users can enjoy lightning-fast speeds, reaching up to 5.8 Gbps. As well as TriLink Connectivity, Expansion is made to future-proof with PCIe Gen 5.0 for next-gen graphics cards and SSDs. The USB4 ports, which are Thunderbolt compatible, enable fast data transfers and support a wide range of next-gen devices, including display output through USB-C.




MSI continues prioritizing ease of use with EZ DIY features that simplify building and upgrading. These include our brand-new EZ PCIe Release for quick and easy graphics card replacement. With these feature upgrades, the PCIe slot itself has also been strengthen with its second generation of MSI's Steel Armor II that will hold and support much heavier graphics card with ease. The second generation of the tool-less EZ M.2 Shield Frozr II, EZ Magnetic M.2 Shield Frozr II, and EZ M.2 Clip II ensures an effortless installation process with optimized experience. The EZ Conn-Design and EZ Antenna make cable management and setup even smoother. Last but not least, The Debug LED display is included for instant diagnostics to enhance troubleshooting further.

Additionally, MSI's recent introduction of the ATX 3.1 Ready, 8-pin Supplemental PCIe Power Connector, featured in all MSI X870E and X870 motherboards, provides extra power for AI computing and GPU-heavy tasks. Supporting up to 2.5x power excursions, it ensures stable, efficient performance under heavy loads, offering unmatched reliability for demanding environments. For more regarding this, please visit the link here.

With these new X870E and X870 motherboards, MSI offers unmatched performance, future-ready features, and a seamless PC-building experience, perfect for AMD Ryzen 9000 desktop processors.

MEG X870E GODLIKE - Dominating Performance for Enthusiasts
MSI introduces the MEG X870E GODLIKE, a motherboard that not only pushes but redefines boundaries, delivering an exceptional balance of performance and design. The third iteration of the Dynamic Dashboard features a 3.99-inch LCD screen for real-time hardware monitoring, troubleshooting, BIOS updates, and personalized display options, enhancing the overall user experience. For improved functionality, the EZ Link design simplifies cable management by consolidating front panel, fan, and RGB headers into the EZ Bridge and EZ Control Hub, resulting in a cleaner and more organized build.



Introducing the exclusive M.2 XPANDER-Z SLIDER GEN5 add-on card, this expansion makes storage upgrades effortless with two Gen 5 x4 M.2 storage slots for quick M.2 SSD replacement. The one-slot-thick card also includes a double-ball bearing fan for effective heat dissipation.

Regarding connectivity, the MEG X870E GODLIKE is equipped with Marvell 10G LAN, Realtek 5G LAN, Wi-Fi 7, and USB4, ensuring it's ready for next-gen devices and peripherals. The rear I/O panel includes 2x USB 40G with support for DisplayPort output, 13x USB 10G (5x Type-C & 8x Type-A), Smart Button for a shortcut function, and a front USB Type-C header supporting 60 W power delivery for fast charging. Like other MSI 800-series motherboards, the MEG X870E GODLIKE is ideal for users seeking performance and uncompromising efficiency.

MPG X870E CARBON WIFI - Unlock the Future of Premium Gaming
The MPG X870E CARBON WIFI embodies MSI's MPG branding, delivering a premium gaming experience without sacrificing value. Its sleek black design with subtle RGB lighting fits perfectly into any gaming PC build.

Equipped with an 18-phase Duet Rail Power System and 110 A Smart Power Stages, this motherboard can easily handle the most powerful AMD Ryzen desktop processors, both present and future. The Extended Heatsink with a Heat-Pipe ensures efficient cooling and maintains optimal thermal performance.



Connectivity is top-notch, with 5G and 2.5G LAN, Wi-Fi 7, and USB4 support for next-gen devices and peripherals. The rear I/O panel offers 2x USB 40G with DisplayPort output, 11x USB 10G (2x Type-C & 9x Type-A) and a Smart Button for a shortcut function. Additionally, it includes a front USB Type-C header with 27 W power delivery for fast charging, a feature that sets the MPG X870E CARBON WIFI apart. Like other MSI 800-series boards, it also includes EZ DIY features, making PC building and upgrades effortless.

MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI - Subtle Design, Unmatched Performance
Staying true to its MSI Arsenal Gaming roots, the MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI is known for offering great value, and the 800-series model continues that tradition by combining reliability, innovative features, and affordability.

With a sleek black design, it fits seamlessly into any build. Powered by a 14-phase Duet Rail Power System, 80 A Smart Power Stages, and an Extended Heatsink, it ensures optimal performance for AMD Ryzen desktop processors during long gaming sessions.



The MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI follows MSI's EZ DIY philosophy, simplifying the installation of graphics cards, M.2 SSDs, heatsinks, and Wi-Fi antennae. It supports Wi-Fi 7 for fast wireless speeds and 5G LAN for ultra-fast wired networking. The rear I/O includes 2x USB 40G with DisplayPort output, 2x USB 10G (Type-A), 3x USB 5G (Type-A), 4x USB 2.0 ports, and a front USB Type-C header offering 27 W power delivery for charging devices.

PRO X870-P WIFI - Blending Business Elegance with High Performance
The MSI PRO X870-P WIFI is built to suit various needs, whether for work, business, or daily use. It offers AMD's powerful X870 chipset on a budget. Unlike its 800-series counterparts, it stands out with a silver design and a 14-phase Duet Rail Power System, ensuring reliable performance with any Ryzen desktop processors.

Adhering to MSI's EZ DIY philosophy, the board simplifies the build process by quickly installing M.2 SSDs, easy removal and installation of graphics cards using MSI's enlarged EZ PCIe Clip II, and tool-less M.2 heatsinks. It also supports Wi-Fi 7, 5G LAN, and USB4, making it future-proof for fast and stable networking. The rear I/O offers ample connectivity with 1x USB 40G (Type-C), 1x USB 20G (Type-C), 2x USB 10G (Type-A), 2x USB 5G (Type-A), and 4x USB 2.0 ports.



Experience the future of high-performance computing with MSI powered by AMD Ryzen 9000 Series desktop processors.

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[Chaitanya]

With crippled PCIe expansion compared to X670 series and price increase for minimal upgrade, hopefully these also get cold reception like 9000 series of CPUs from consumers.

 

[Imsochobo]

With crippled PCIe expansion compared to X670 series and price increase for minimal upgrade, hopefully these also get cold reception like 9000 series of CPUs from consumers.

it's only good if you don't care about the in case expansion and care about usb4\tb4.
itx users will welcome it, for nearly everybody else it's shit.

I think if I remember right x670 platform had 44 pci-e lanes and z690 platform had 48.
Z890 is the same as z690 However, the cpu has 4 additional cpu lanes bringing the total platform to 52 (I think) + you also have built-in TB4\usb4 controller giving you the two tb4\usb4 ports for free without consuming anything.

Amd consumes 4 cpu lanes for usb4\tb4 so total platform pci-e lanes is now:
40 vs 52, and amd boards are also expensive with no benefits

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

1: Look at pics of Godlike board
2: Wonder why the 8-pins at the top of the RAM aren't right-angled like every other socket on the entire board.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Amd consumes 4 cpu lanes for usb4\tb4 so total platform pci-e lanes is now:
40 vs 52, and amd boards are also expensive with no benefits

Intel is still 48 on Z890.

Intel's Upcoming 800-series Chipsets Leak in Detail

What appears to be the full details of all of Intel's upcoming 800-series chipsets have leaked and although we've already seen what the Z890 chipset will offer, no details of the other SKUs have leaked to date. Maybe the biggest news is that there won't be an H870 chipset this time around...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Chaitanya]

it's only good if you don't care about the in case expansion and care about usb4\tb4.
itx users will welcome it, for nearly everybody else it's shit.

I think if I remember right x670 platform had 44 pci-e lanes and z690 platform had 48.
Z890 is the same as z690 However, the cpu has 4 additional cpu lanes bringing the total platform to 52 (I think) + you also have built-in TB4\usb4 controller giving you the two tb4\usb4 ports for free without consuming anything.

Amd consumes 4 cpu lanes for usb4\tb4 so total platform pci-e lanes is now:
40 vs 52, and amd boards are also expensive with no benefits

X670e carbon has 2 x16 slots which are split into x8x8 or x8x4x4 and even included addin card for 2x M.2 SSDs but this new board seems to have dropped support.

Would like to add MSI mentions support for CUDIMM depends on CPUs used while Gigabyte hasnt mentioned support for it in their spec sheet. So its odd one manufacturer is boasting about support for yet unreleased memory while competition doesnt.

 

[gerard.bow]

For me, worse than its predecessors.
Nobody needs an extra power connection,
But the 5.1 analog connection is now also being removed from the Carbon.
No thanks. If anyone thinks you can get digital optical out ... you can if you like 2.0. MSI does not pay a license to Dolby or DTS, which is why only stereo comes out of the digital connection.
If you want surround sound, you have to go to Asus.
These new great motherboards are so new and great that the MSI bios is typically the same as the X670 counterparts. Goodlike and Carbon are also identical. They just bungled the points that weren't needed.
If you want to use the extra plug-in card from the Googlike on the Carbon, the points are there, USB4 on the X670X ... no problem, not installed but the menus are there etc
The price for these Blender boards is a joke.
There is no reason to pay >1/3 more for X870 compared to X670. If you want USB4, get a 10€ PCIe plug-in card and that's it, that's exactly why you have “so many” slots.
The only ray of hope with this stupid company is that you can now apparently change the battery again without having to completely dismantle your system and remove the motherboard because you have to loosen the covers at the front and screws at the back to get to the battery.
I wonder if the extra TPM connection has been installed so well that it can only be used without a GPU and without an SSD shield because it is directed under the GPU towards the side panel.

 

[spooh]

So MSI is going to Dominate Next-Gen AI Computing by providing a power connector?
Do I miss something?

 

[azrael]

Seems like Gigabyte now supports ECC memory on the new boards, while MSI still only supports non-ECC memory. Well, at least there are now three manufacturers to choose from.

 

[katzi]

Get ready for a HURRICANE of "Ai" marketing bullsh*t with these new boards, and then All of Intel's new tat soon as well.

 

[chrcoluk]

X870-P looks to have the best expansion from eye balling, but who knows what sharing shenanigans are going on.

MSI done a better than Asrock on adding extra usb type c ports, Asrock released a board where they removed type a entirely which was silly.

 

[phints]

When it comes to new Ryzen 9000 chipset motherboards I would just like to know 2 things -

1. Boot times: are they improved from Ryzen 7000. These were very high (30-60 seconds boots were noted in reviews which is absurd for a modern PC).
2. Idle power consumption: is this reduced, this was notably about 15-20W higher than Intel last gen. This was a big setback since the rest of the CPU used much less power.

 

[Baba]

So MSI is going to Dominate Next-Gen AI Computing by providing a power connector?
Do I miss something?

That's where the AI is located. duh!

They literally added USB 4 which was forced on them and maybe Wifi7 in some instances and are adding AI to names? WTF is going on? I mean I have 0 reasons to upgrade from my X370 still. How is this even possible after so many generations of chipsets? Socket longetivity because of stagnation. Nothing else.

When it comes to new Ryzen 9000 chipset motherboards I would just like to know 2 things -

1. Boot times: are they improved from Ryzen 7000. These were very high (30-60 seconds boots were noted in reviews which is absurd for a modern PC).
2. Idle power consumption: is this reduced, this was notably about 15-20W higher than Intel last gen. This was a big setback since the rest of the CPU used much less power.

I thought this was only first boot when the mobo had to learn the memory. Please tell me it's just the first boot.

 

[rv8000]

When it comes to new Ryzen 9000 chipset motherboards I would just like to know 2 things -

1. Boot times: are they improved from Ryzen 7000. These were very high (30-60 seconds boots were noted in reviews which is absurd for a modern PC).
2. Idle power consumption: is this reduced, this was notably about 15-20W higher than Intel last gen. This was a big setback since the rest of the CPU used much less power.

Idle power consumption isn’t related to the board or chipset, the I/O die is responsible for the increased idle power consumption vs. intel. This won’t change until they revamp the I/O die or go to a more efficient process/node for it.

 

[Metroid]

Sadly no one with camm2.

 

[Nikson]

When it comes to new Ryzen 9000 chipset motherboards I would just like to know 2 things -

1. Boot times: are they improved from Ryzen 7000. These were very high (30-60 seconds boots were noted in reviews which is absurd for a modern PC).
2. Idle power consumption: is this reduced, this was notably about 15-20W higher than Intel last gen. This was a big setback since the rest of the CPU used much less power.

Idle power is same....Intel continues to be better at this

 

[rv8000]

Sadly no one with camm2.

This is a good thing

 

[csendesmark]

With crippled PCIe expansion compared to X670 series and price increase for minimal upgrade, hopefully these also get cold reception like 9000 series of CPUs from consumers.

Checked all the boards they released, only the MEG X870E GODLIKE is decent
I feel like the X870 is just an X670 with some botox, basically no new features...

X870-P looks to have the best expansion from eye balling, but who knows what sharing shenanigans are going on.

Hell naaa
Checked all the boards, this one is stinks!
According to is site only gives - Link
4x PCI-E x16 slot
PCI_E1 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x16 (From CPU)
PCI_E2 Gen PCIe 3.0 supports up to x1 (From Chipset)
PCI_E3 Gen PCIe 3.0 supports up to x1 (From Chipset)
PCI_E4 Gen PCIe 4.0 supports up to x4 (From Chipset)
Calling these 1× and 4× slots as 16× SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
That is a friggin scam!!!

No manual available, but I would not recommend this board if you eyeing the expansion slots

 

[Minus Infinity]

How will they dominate AI computing. Zen 5 has no NPU, RDNA sucks for AI, so I assume they mean you will use Nvidia gpu at least.

 

[Ruru]

AI this and AI that... I guess "gaming" branding doesn't sell that well anymore?

 

[jaszy]

For me, worse than its predecessors.
Nobody needs an extra power connection,
But the 5.1 analog connection is now also being removed from the Carbon.
No thanks. If anyone thinks you can get digital optical out ... you can if you like 2.0. MSI does not pay a license to Dolby or DTS, which is why only stereo comes out of the digital connection.
If you want surround sound, you have to go to Asus.
These new great motherboards are so new and great that the MSI bios is typically the same as the X670 counterparts. Goodlike and Carbon are also identical. They just bungled the points that weren't needed.
If you want to use the extra plug-in card from the Googlike on the Carbon, the points are there, USB4 on the X670X ... no problem, not installed but the menus are there etc
The price for these Blender boards is a joke.
There is no reason to pay >1/3 more for X870 compared to X670. If you want USB4, get a 10€ PCIe plug-in card and that's it, that's exactly why you have “so many” slots.
The only ray of hope with this stupid company is that you can now apparently change the battery again without having to completely dismantle your system and remove the motherboard because you have to loosen the covers at the front and screws at the back to get to the battery.
I wonder if the extra TPM connection has been installed so well that it can only be used without a GPU and without an SSD shield because it is directed under the GPU towards the side panel.

I didn't realize the year was 2005 and people are still using 5.1 analog.

Jokes aside, this must be a very niche community. The only system Logitech sells dates back to 2011.

 

[Ruru]

I didn't realize the year was 2005 and people are still using 5.1 analog.

Jokes aside, this must be a very niche community. The only system Logitech sells dates back to 2011.

Including myself, I can count the people I know who've had 5.1 setup in the last 20 years with one hand's fingers. Indeed a hella niche userbase.

 

[Imsochobo]

Intel is still 48 on Z890.

Intel's Upcoming 800-series Chipsets Leak in Detail

What appears to be the full details of all of Intel's upcoming 800-series chipsets have leaked and although we've already seen what the Z890 chipset will offer, no details of the other SKUs have leaked to date. Maybe the biggest news is that there won't be an H870 chipset this time around...

www.techpowerup.com

seems to be some disagreement on intel adding 4 additional cpu lanes or not, some report 4 additional, some not.
we'll see

 

[TheLostSwede]

seems to be some disagreement on intel adding 4 additional cpu lanes or not, some report 4 additional, some not.
we'll see

That leak included the four extra CPU lanes.
They dropped all eight PCIe 3.0 lanes at the same time.

 

[csendesmark]

How will they dominate AI computing. Zen 5 has no NPU, RDNA sucks for AI, so I assume they mean you will use Nvidia gpu at least.

It is only for the BUZZ words...

That leak included the four extra CPU lanes.
They dropped all eight PCIe 3.0 lanes at the same time.

Do we need v3.0 lanes tho?
If you have some leftover stuff, you can use them in v4.0 lanes, so all good