Just upgraded to 7900X3D, can't tell the difference (not in games).

[Shadowjump]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

 

[jarablue]

If you got more than 10fps in games I'd be surprised. Whenever I upgraded my cpu I saw really limited gains in fps. But the internet fanbois will make you believe it's a life changing fps gain.

Hint: It's not.

I have a 7900X and am skipping 9 series altogether. I don't need to spend 490$ on a cpu for 8% gain. Which would net me like 6fps more. No thank you.

 

[igormp]

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

The tasks you mentioned were pretty lightweight, and your previous 5900x should be more than capable to handle those.

What exactly were you expecting to happen? For chrome to open tabs faster or something like that?

 

[Marcus L]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

Browsing the web and light tasks and you want there to be a night and day difference? cool.... what GPU do you have, did you benchmark/ record gaming performance before upgrading, I mean, how fast does a web browser open these days on a potato you bought a gaming orientated performing CPU and say you can't notice any difference from your 12c pretty good previous CPU, you do know that once you go past pcie3 you won't notice a difference with pcie4/5 nvme in loading Windows or basic tasks unless benchmarking? we are at a really good point with computer HW these days as you can go back 4 years and still have a very fast and competant system running an AM4 CPU and DDR4 RAM, if you are seeking gaming performance going from AM4-AM5 and X3D AM5 then you better have a high end GPU to be CPU limited in most games, that said you should notice an uptick in .1% and .01% lows as well as minimums

 

[ir_cow]

Just depends on what your doing really. Wiz has good benchmarks in the most recent Intel CPU review for comparison. Mine you in gaming it comes down to graphical settings and resolution scaled to the GPU you are using. For example a entry level $100 card will give you the exact same results.

 

[arbiter]

Unless you are running a high end gpu probably won't.

 

[SL2]

Did he edit the title somehow and no one noticed?

(almost) Everybody's talking about gaming performance lol.

Either way, that upgrade won't make any difference in those situations mentioned.

 

[phanbuey]

you need to test it in scenarios where your old rig was "struggling"... if nothing you did with your rig pushed the 5900x to the limit, then... well you're not going to really push the 7900x either.

So like, a game didn't run as fast, or had dips in fps -- or your GPU was sitting at 60% waiting for the cpu -- a compile took forever, or you wanted to run 9 vms and load up youtube on all of them and watch 9 different streams at the same time and it was dropping too many frames (jk). HD video exports... Whatever it is.

Point is if you were just surfing the web and doing basic stuff you're not going to see a difference from 5900x to 7900x.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I have more than a few questions. 1. Is this satire? 2. How many tabs of educational material did you have open to make a 5900X struggle? 3. Were you genuinely expecting faster "web browsing" going from a fast 12-core processor to a fast 12-core processor? Amongst others

 

[ir_cow]

@Dr. Dro yep a ARM CPU can do light Web browsing. Though recently I tried with a P4. That was slow... I think mostly because all the built-in accelerators we take for granted now didn't exist until it became needed.

 

[kapone32]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

Try Gaming and that is where you will see the difference. Where it is though is if you are at 4K or 1440P. All reviews like to test at Ultra but at 4K high native you are asking the PC to provide 2x the data at 1440P per second. That is where you will see and feel the difference. With Games like City Skylines 2 you get improved performance as well.

 

[jarablue]

It's not going to be anything major at all. To me it's not even worth the money.

Wait 3 or 4 years maybe even 5. CPUs today are plenty fast and you do not absolutely have to upgrade every release cycle. It's a total waste of money. Unless you want benchmark penis points. Gaming you will be totally fine with what you had before.

I was thinking of going with a 9800X3D but I already have a 7900X. Why on earth would I spend 500$ for an 8% IF THAT gain across the board? Pointless.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

Of course, those things are light even if you upgrade from far lesser spec you won't notice any difference. PCIe Gen 3 to 4 NVME you can only notice the difference in benchmark number I bet even SATA SSD would run fine on light program.

 

[Ruru]

Would be interesting to know what GPU and monitor you have. I have a 5800X monitor and a 4K120 monitor, with my current RTX 3080 I wouldn't probably notice any difference.

Of course, those things are light even if you upgrade from far lesser spec you won't notice any difference. PCIe Gen 3 to 4 NVME you can only notice the difference in benchmark number I bet even SATA SSD would run fine on light program.

Hell, I have one SSD even in PCIe 2.0 x4 and rocks just fine as a game SSD. And I have a SATA one as my OS SSD.

 

[AusWolf]

I don't understand. Did you expect your web browser to run faster? You can browse the web on your phone, so why would you need a high-end desktop CPU to do that?

 

[Ruru]

I don't understand. Did you expect your web browser to run faster? You can browse the web on your phone, so why would you need a high-end desktop CPU to do that?

I guess that cat pics posted/min should be a benchmark.

No, really, when OP didn't even post his/her full specs, this everything is just speculation.

 

[Onasi]

My brother in Christ, most people would not consider an update from Zen 3 to Zen 4 to be worth the money and definitely wouldn’t see any gains in light desktop tasks. In fact, on a decent SSD and a clean OS you are unlikely to see any difference in such tasks on ANY CPU from the last… half a decade or so? More? You have probably gained a nice bit of performance in games, but even there it would depend on your resolution and GPU - a 4060 on 4K will probably show the exact same FPS. Uh, maybe some CPU bound MMOs would run better in such a scenario? Not sure.

tl:dr

 

[AusWolf]

I guess that cat pics posted/min should be a benchmark.

No, really, when OP didn't even post his/her full specs, this everything is just speculation.

CPU power has long passed the requirements of simple tasks on a PC. This isn't speculation, this is fact.

Heck, I could probably browse the web on a Sandy Bridge i5, and wouldn't notice much difference between that and my 7800X3D.

 

[Dr. Dro]

CPU power has long passed the requirements of simple tasks on a PC. This isn't speculation, this is fact.

Heck, I could probably browse the web on a Sandy Bridge i5, and wouldn't notice much difference between that and my 7800X3D.

Yeah, this is true. I reckon it's probably why Microsoft declaring pre-2017 machines unsupported on Windows 11 stings so much, despite the fact that those are already 7 years old themselves. On one side, it's reasonable from many standpoints, but also unreasonable in ones that I suppose people care about the most - their devices work, and do the job, why replace them?

 

[Toothless]

I actually went from a 5950x to 7800x3d with the (realistic) thought that it was a pure gaming upgrade and power draw drop. If you think your day to day stuff is going to run better then you're extremely mistaken.

Enjoy the gaming performance and be happy your browsing or whatever else performance is good in general.

 

[Ruru]

CPU power has long passed the requirements of simple tasks on a PC. This isn't speculation, this is fact.

Heck, I could probably browse the web on a Sandy Bridge i5, and wouldn't notice much difference between that and my 7800X3D.

I had a 2500K @ 5.2GHz as my media rig's CPU sometime ago, that was fine, but in reality, 4c/4t isn't just anymore a today's thing.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I went from a 5950X to 7950X3D and the 7000 series chip murders it at everything while using less power.... 10w less but still.

For general desktop use they are identical with any difference being placebo.

You need to have a 4090/4080 to notice in gaming at 1440 and a 4090 at 4k, but in any MT task it's super obvious.

 

[Launcestonian]

Yeah, this is true. I reckon it's probably why Microsoft declaring pre-2017 machines unsupported on Windows 11 stings so much, despite the fact that those are already 7 years old themselves. On one side, it's reasonable from many standpoints, but also unreasonable in ones that I suppose people care about the most - their devices work, and do the job, why replace them?

Their devices may still work, but the net today is vastly different from the net of a decade ago. Think more hardware, software & firmware threats for starters - this in itself is a logical reason for upgrading. With win 11 latest version enabling bitlocker by default, your CPU better have the power to enable it fairly quickly or you'll be throwing a brick at it for being too slow is one quick example. I experimented decrypting a drive with it using my 7600X with PBO maxed out & it did it in about 4 -5 mins for a 1TB drive. Imagine doing it for a 1TB drive with a decade old CPU like Sandy Bridge or even an FX series chip?

CPU power has long passed the requirements of simple tasks on a PC. This isn't speculation, this is fact.

Heck, I could probably browse the web on a Sandy Bridge i5, and wouldn't notice much difference between that and my 7800X3D.

If you enjoy regular pauses & hesitations in loading pages today with a decade old chip, be my guest. I noticed a substantial upshift in overall responsiveness with loading web pages & all the code that runs on them nowadays between an OC FX-8350 (2012)& a Ryzen 5 7600X (2022) - it was like night & day the change. Sure the FX series were crap performers for many things but that's all I had to compare with & this was only 2 yrs ago in one of my rigs.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Their devices may still work, but the net today is vastly different from the net of a decade ago. Think more hardware, software & firmware threats for starters - this in itself is a logical reason for upgrading. With win 11 latest version enabling bitlocker by default, your CPU better have the power to enable it fairly quickly or you'll be throwing a brick at it for being too slow is one quick example. I experimented decrypting a drive with it using my 7600X with PBO maxed out & it did it in about 4 -5 mins for a 1TB drive. Imagine doing it for a 1TB drive with a decade old CPU like Sandy Bridge or even an FX series chip?

If you enjoy regular pauses & hesitations in loading pages today with a decade old chip, be my guest. I noticed a substantial upshift in overall responsiveness with loading web pages & all the code that runs on them nowadays between an OC FX-8350 (2012)& a Ryzen 5 7600X (2022) - it was like night & day the change. Sure the FX series were crap performers for many things but that's all I had to compare with & this was only 2 yrs ago in one of my rigs.

It's not that I don't agree - but you're gonna have a very hard time convincing a lot of people to whom your post sounds hilariously technical and a lot of "nerd gibberish". They'll just chide and berate you for it

 

[harm9963]

My 5950X is still doing fine , at 4K gaming not missing a beat !