Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Zach_01 · Tuesday at 1:48 AM

freeagent said:
At 4K 60 I prefer my 5900X for most of my games. I don't need 16 cores at all, but I sure would like the slight clock bump, and the extra core count comes in handy for WCG.

Officially 5900X and 5950X have 100MHz (2%) speed difference. Besides the extra 4/8 cores/threads the 5950X has nothing realistic to offer for ST and games. Especially in 1440p/4K.
Mostly the FPS difference will be 1-3% and in a few best cases like 5-10%.

freeagent · Tuesday at 1:59 AM

Zach_01 said:
Officially 5900X and 5950X have 100MHz (2%) speed difference.

Right, doesn't 5050Mhz sound better than 4950MHz though?

And then you have PBO.. 5250MHz sounds better than 5150MHz :laugh:

The real elephant on my face is the fact that I can get a newer model for pretty much the same money.. but I would need another high end board, new high end ram.. have everything else though

Ruru · Tuesday at 8:21 AM

freeagent said:
Right, doesn't 5050Mhz sound better than 4950MHz though?

And then you have PBO.. 5250MHz sounds better than 5150MHz

The real elephant on my face is the fact that I can get a newer model for pretty much the same money.. but I would need another high end board, new high end ram.. have everything else though

How about 5900XT? Funny enough, 5950X is cheaper at least here in Finland. 320EUR including postage and VAT at cheapest.

Space Lynx · Tuesday at 12:13 PM

freeagent said:
Right, doesn't 5050Mhz sound better than 4950MHz though?

And then you have PBO.. 5250MHz sounds better than 5150MHz

The real elephant on my face is the fact that I can get a newer model for pretty much the same money.. but I would need another high end board, new high end ram.. have everything else though

I feel like as much money as you have to blow, and as bored as you are, at this point you should just sell the 5800x3d, 5900x, and mobo/ram as a combo, and get a 9800x3d rig.

freeagent · Tuesday at 1:56 PM

Nah, this is my new X58 rig, except this one will stay with me.

Edit:

I took that AM4 CPU out of my cart last night, right now I have a 9950X in it.

kapone32 · Tuesday at 2:15 PM

Zach_01 said:
Officially 5900X and 5950X have 100MHz (2%) speed difference. Besides the extra 4/8 cores/threads the 5950X has nothing realistic to offer for ST and games. Especially in 1440p/4K.
Mostly the FPS difference will be 1-3% and in a few best cases like 5-10%.

As an aside City Skylines 2 will use every single CPU core once the population is high enough. There you will see the difference.I would describe the 5900X as butter smooth and the 5950x as super snappy.

Ruru said:
How about 5900XT? Funny enough, 5950X is cheaper at least here in Finland. 320EUR including postage and VAT at cheapest.

That is a great price for a 5950X.

freeagent · Tuesday at 2:32 PM

I did put thought into the X3D angle.. but I have to be real with myself. I run at my TV's native res of 3840x2160, 60Hz. So I don't need to chase over 150. I know they game better, but its not like the X counter parts suck.. and save a few bucks in the process.. because you know X3D does not magically lower prices

But we shall see.. right now there are no X3D parts that interest me on Amazon, so there is that too.

Zach_01 · Tuesday at 4:13 PM

Ruru said:
How about 5900XT? Funny enough, 5950X is cheaper at least here in Finland. 320EUR including postage and VAT at cheapest.

EU, Greece

5800Χ........155€
5700X3D...220€
5900X........230€
5950Χ........325€
5900ΧΤ......380€

At least who ever has AM4 and upgrades from 2000/3000series the 5700X3D/5900X options are very compelling.

freeagent · Tuesday at 4:18 PM

The XT is more expensive here too. 100MHz less and pretty much the same temps.. I dunno.

Maybe if it ran cooler, used less power.. you know better cores than yeah maybe.. but nope.

Ruru · Tuesday at 4:45 PM

freeagent said:
The XT is more expensive here too. 100MHz less and pretty much the same temps.. I dunno.

Maybe if it ran cooler, used less power.. you know better cores than yeah maybe.. but nope.

Could be newer chips with better overclockability, but at least I wouldn't care a bit as I don't manually OC Ryzens.

freeagent · Tuesday at 4:46 PM

Ruru said:
Could be newer chips with better overclockability, but at least I wouldn't care a bit as I don't manually OC Ryzens.

I had a quick look at HWBOT and there was none that I saw in the 20 seconds that I looked, which is what got me started down this path to begin with lol..

Zach_01 · Wednesday at 12:02 AM

Ruru said:
Could be newer chips with better overclockability, but at least I wouldn't care a bit as I don't manually OC Ryzens.

You don’t really need to manual OC. That’s dead for me and for most users anyway.
At least In theory a better chip can sustain higher speed within the same power envelope. Better undervolt (-CO) and so…
Even so the level of higher pricing can’t be justified in my book. I don’t expect 1:1 ratio for perf/price metrics as the price climbs, but at some point it’s becoming absurd.

R-T-B · 2024-11-29T02:49:48+0000

So the latest CPU-Z is bluescreening on my Ryzen 9950X + 24H2. Apparently affects some 7xxx board/cpu combos as well. I'm sure it will be fixed, but until then downgrading to 2.10 works fine.

Capitan Harlock · 2024-11-29T03:19:08+0000

Been now 3 weeks since i got a Ryzen 7 3800X and a Asus X370 PRIME Pro and 16 gb DDR4 Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz .
Currently doing PBO and i will see in the future if do some Manual OC.
I did had some problems updating the Bios to the latest version until i installed Asus Ai suit because i discovered Asus themself got rid of the internet update option inside the bios :kookoo:

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freeagent · 2024-11-29T04:29:30+0000

Honestly, I thought PBO was kind of a waste with my 3600XT. I just ran a static clock and voltage.

I think it works better with Zen 3 and up. But that is JMO of course

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Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
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Software	Yes
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Case	NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

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Ruru

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freeagent

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kapone32

freeagent

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Zach_01

freeagent

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Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

freeagent

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Zach_01

R-T-B

Capitan Harlock

freeagent

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