My First PC Build – Intel vs AMD for Work and Gaming

[hmn888]

Hello everyone,
I’m planning to build my first PC and have put together two parts lists while waiting for good deals.
The PC will be primarily used for work with Adobe programs (especially After Effects) and some 3D work.
I also enjoy gaming, so I want to build a system that can handle both tasks efficiently.
I’m undecided between an AMD or Intel CPU. I’m leaning towards Intel since I’ve always used Intel processors.
However, I’ve heard a lot about issues with the latest 13th and 14th generation Intel CPUs. Are these issues resolved now?
Can I confidently build a stable system with Intel after applying BIOS updates and undervolting?
I haven’t found much solid information on this, and most discussions are either “Intel is bad” or “AMD is the better choice.”
I would love to hear from experienced people about their thoughts on this. Also, I’d appreciate any feedback on the rest of
the components in my build. Below are the two parts lists I’ve put together. My budget is around 2,000 Euros.

Intel System:​

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/rq26sp

• CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor
• CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Loop 2 Liquid CPU Cooler
• Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700
• Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
• Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB
• Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Fully Modular

AMD System:​

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/R4LdXR

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor
• CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Loop 2 Liquid CPU Cooler
• Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5
• Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
• Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB
• Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower
• Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Fully Modular

Which system would you recommend based on a balance of gaming and productivity?
Also, if you have any insights on the CPU choice or potential issues with either, I would love to hear them.
Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[dgianstefani]

Both of these are outdated.

If you can, wait for RTX 50xx release, if you can't, then this is a better option, or wait for 9800X3D to come down in price.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WXvsZc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor (€332.96 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€34.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€152.89 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€213.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€141.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€846.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (€160.90 @ Galaxus)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€187.98 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €2072.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-27 00:16 CET+0100

 

[anonuser57]

The thing with Intel is it needs a lot of power, especially with all cores active, and you absolutely must update your BIOS immediately when you get your motherboard or else the chip will self destruct. From a performance standpoint I think the Intel CPU edges out the 7900x, but you need to double check that with reviews and you also need to find reviews with your productivity applications. It is probably best to look at reviews for recent CPUs for the performance of the CPUs you are looking at rather than the reviews dedicated to them.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

For productivity, the 9700x only keeps up with 7900x if you run PBO to the max. That said, you can run the 7900x with PBO and CO and get in front again. The 9700x will be a little faster in games though (but depending on the game and resolution, they may perform exactly the same).

You'll notice that the 14700k wins in after-effects and trades blows elsewhere. Depending on how you clock things, you should be happy with any of these options, honestly. As for the Intel issues...it'll draw more power in workloads, but if you update the bios there shouldn't be any risks or issues with it. Not really a concern anymore.

 

[DaemonForce]

Uh the parts aren't what I call outdated but that list certainly is. To start, good luck picking up either of those chips.
If your thing is going to mainly focus on gaming, pick up an entry level X3D that offers the best possible performance and you're solid.
If you're doing basic streaming it's also good but overclock or load up on more cores.
If you're doing gaming and game development or some kind of rendering that is sometimes high compute workload, load up on non-X3D cores and high core clock.
The rest is cake.

 

[QuietBob]

The PC will be primarily used for work with Adobe programs (especially After Effects) and some 3D work.

If you mostly use After Effects with Multi-Frame Rendering, you will benefit from having 12 or more cores. 3D rendering on the CPU will also gain from increased core count.

With gaming as your other priority, I'd recommend a Ryzen 9 9900X or 9950X over the Core Ultra series. While the latest gen from Intel does admirably in many apps, the Ryzen tends to perform much better in games.

Here's a benchmark comparing the two architectures in After Effects:

 

[Why_Me]

https://geizhals.de/ <--- compare PC component prices on this site.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor (€403.99 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.93 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (€235.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€209.22 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€168.54 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE MAX OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€836.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (€104.12 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2132.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-27 10:06 CET+0100

 

[hmn888]

Thank you all for your feedback! To avoid replying individually, I’ll summarize my thoughts here. My number one priority is still working with Adobe programs, especially After Effects. 3D work is also part of my workflow. If I only needed the system for work or gaming, my decision and component selection would probably be much easier. However, I need a system that can handle both. Work accounts for more than 50%, so I need to make sure it fits into my 2K Euro budget.

I’d love to go with the very latest AMD chips, but they are far too expensive, especially compared to Intel processors, which offer the same or even better performance in benchmarks. I’ve seen very few reviews of Intel’s new Ultra series that focus on actual workloads. But looking at the general benchmarking charts, as far as I can tell, the results don’t seem outstanding compared to the 13th or 14th Gen Intel CPUs or even AMD’s latest chips.

What would you recommend for my 2K Euro budget? Do you have personal experience with Intel’s 13th or 14th Gen CPUs after BIOS updates and possibly undervolting? Or is it all just nonsense and too risky to rely on them?

https://geizhals.de/ <--- compare PC component prices on this site.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor (€403.99 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.93 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (€235.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€209.22 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€168.54 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE MAX OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€836.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (€104.12 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2132.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-27 10:06 CET+0100

Thank you for your help! Have you personally had any experience with the Ultra series? If so, was it more focused on gaming or productive work?

 

[Waldorf]

i would not consider anything that requires messing with bios (pbo/core offset/undervolting etc) for (expected) perf, unless you are familiar with it, or you will spend lots of time testing/setting up and stability testing, to gain a couple percent that wont matter much.
even with work, i doubt its more important to finish stuff 2 min early, vs a different brand/type cpu that might be cheaper, and with intel usually comes with much higher power use.

virtually all review recommendation i have seen are going amd, even the latest intel arent much different, at least from the few i looked at.

for cooler your better off with a 280 ir 240, more options with case/mounting etc, and cooling isnt better just because of a bigger rad, e.g. the Eisbär 240/280 cools better than almost all 360/420 units of other brands.

the Gb windforce stuff is usually coming with crappy heatsinks, MSI Gaming X/Z tend to be the fastest, as they run a little cooler and thus can boost longer/higher.

ill put something together when i get home and can Look up prices.

are you close to any local shops like arlt/km Elektronik etc?

 

[hmn888]

i would not consider anything that requires messing with bios (pbo/core offset/undervolting etc) for (expected) perf, unless you are familiar with it, or you will spend lots of time testing/setting up and stability testing, to gain a couple percent that wont matter much.
even with work, i doubt its more important to finish stuff 2 min early, vs a different brand/type cpu that might be cheaper, and with intel usually comes with much higher power use.

virtually all review recommendation i have seen are going amd, even the latest intel arent much different, at least from the few i looked at.

for cooler your better off with a 280 ir 240, more options with case/mounting etc, and cooling isnt better just because of a bigger rad, e.g. the Eisbär 240/280 cools better than almost all 360/420 units of other brands.

the Gb windforce stuff is usually coming with crappy heatsinks, MSI Gaming X/Z tend to be the fastest, as they run a little cooler and thus can boost longer/higher.

ill put something together when i get home and can Look up prices.

are you close to any local shops like arlt/km Elektronik etc?

Thank you so much for your willingness to help! If you have time to recommend suitable components, I would really appreciate it. I live in a small town in Germany, so ordering online is a better option for me. You usually find better prices online compared to the big electronics stores here anyway.

 

[Why_Me]

Thank you for your help! Have you personally had any experience with the Ultra series? If so, was it more focused on gaming or productive work?

I don't but after reading this link down below I'm assuming other board manufactures will follow Asrocks lead ... or you can switch that Gigabyte board in that build I posted to a Asrock. Ignore the replies on that thread.

ASRock PPM Driver Claims +13% Arrow Lake Gaming Performance, Might not be The Fix We are Waiting For

ASRock on Monday (25/11) announced that its Z890 chipset motherboards support the new Intel Platform Power Management (PPM) driver version 1007.20240913, which promises an up to 13.23% increase in performance with games and gaming benchmarks, hinting that this could be the much awaited "fix" to...

www.techpowerup.com

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#f=2&s=42&c=170&mt=ddr5&m=7

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *ASRock Z890 Pro-A WiFi ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (€214.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Total: €214.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-27 11:29 CET+0100

ASRock Z890 Pro-A WiFi

Supports Intel Core™ Ultra Processors (Series 2)(LGA1851); 16+1+1+1+1 Power Phase, Dr.MOS for VCore+GT; 4 x DDR5 DIMMs, Supports Dual Channel, up to 9066+ (OC); 1 PCIe 5.0 x16, 2 PCIe 4.0 x4, 1 PCIe 4.0 x1; Graphics Output Options: 1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 Thunderbolt™ 4 Type-C; Realtek ALC897...

www.asrock.com

 

[mouks]

If you go AMD, you'd better get the 7950x for AE and 3D, it will also be very good to play games. I edited your list and changed the SSD and AIO with models that have similar performance while being cheaper.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/G2mWDj

The motherboard you chose is quite limited, that's fine for this build but if you want to add storage later you will only have 1 free NVMe slot

 

[hmn888]

If you go AMD, you'd better get the 7950x for AE and 3D, it will also be very good to play games. I edited your list and changed the SSD and AIO with models that have similar performance while being cheaper.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/G2mWDj

The motherboard you chose is quite limited, that's fine for this build but if you want to add storage later you will only have 1 free NVMe slot

Thank you for your recommendation. It’s always helpful to consider other opinions and suggestions.

 

[azrael]

Just my two cents, but I would *never* go with either Intel 13k or 14k series. The risk is just too great. Also, I do not know if you can live with *potential* memory errors for work. If not, you may want to use ECC memory and that is by far easier to get on an AMD platform.

 

[Aken Bosch]

I've put together another list, quite different from the others:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDFxGJ

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor (€358.74 @ Galaxus) - if you can afford the jump to 7950X, even better
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.93 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B650-E WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€159.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) -3 NVME slots instead of 2
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€196.89 @ Alternate) - tuned for AMD specifically
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) - same perf as the 980PRO, better priced
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card (€891.20 @ Galaxus) - anyday instead of 4070Ti SUPER (my opinion)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€155.76 @ Galaxus) - 10 years warranty instead of 3 for MSI
Total: €2019.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

[Toothless]

Bios updates have fixed the 13/14th gen issues and a 14700k overall is a solid chip. Fun fact you don't need an AIO for it so you can save money there.

 

[Waldorf]

@hmn888
for brands it tends to be amd, apart from some low res/high fps gaming and some certain workloads, one reason why germany didnt see many sales for intel cpus in the last couple years (BYO).

stuff i would get (if this was my rig), the 9800X3D version would be better for gaming, but its only 8 cores (vs 9950 which is 16C/32T), so for work priority the 9950 would be better, unless you want to wait for 9950X3D.

9800X3D TPU review
9800X3D Guru review

amd build
two drives, 1 for OS/sw/games, 2nd drive for storage/backup/shadow files etc.

 

[hmn888]

Just my two cents, but I would *never* go with either Intel 13k or 14k series. The risk is just too great. Also, I do not know if you can live with *potential* memory errors for work. If not, you may want to use ECC memory and that is by far easier to get on an AMD platform.

Do you have personal experience with this, or do you own one of the 13th or 14th generation CPUs? If so, how are the temperatures and core clocks for you?

I've put together another list, quite different from the others:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDFxGJ

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor (€358.74 @ Galaxus) - if you can afford the jump to 7950X, even better
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.93 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B650-E WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€159.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) -3 NVME slots instead of 2
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€196.89 @ Alternate) - tuned for AMD specifically
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) - same perf as the 980PRO, better priced
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card (€891.20 @ Galaxus) - anyday instead of 4070Ti SUPER (my opinion)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case (€68.90 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€155.76 @ Galaxus) - 10 years warranty instead of 3 for MSI
Total: €2019.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Thank you for your recommendation. Do Kingston SSDs have good quality? I keep hearing mixed opinions. I’ve personally been using a Samsung 860 for almost 6 years, and I’m very satisfied with it, which is why I went with Samsung again. Unfortunately, due to CUDA, I have to stick with Nvidia, as it offers better performance for my work, but it’s noticeably more expensive.

@hmn888
for brands it tends to be amd, apart from some low res/high fps gaming and some certain workloads, one reason why germany didnt see many sales for intel cpus in the last couple years (BYO).

stuff i would get (if this was my rig), the 9800X3D version would be better for gaming, but its only 8 cores (vs 9950 which is 16C/32T), so for work priority the 9950 would be better, unless you want to wait for 9950X3D.

9800X3D TPU review
9800X3D Guru review

amd build
two drives, 1 for OS/sw/games, 2nd drive for storage/backup/shadow files etc.

Thank you for breaking down the PC parts. I'm not sure if the x3D version would make a big difference for my work to justify spending more money on it. Unfortunately, the list you shared is empty.

 

[mouks]

Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card (€891.20 @ Galaxus) - anyday instead of 4070Ti SUPER (my opinion)

For 3D programs and Adobe, Nvidia is far better

 

[JustBenching]

Thank you all for your feedback! To avoid replying individually, I’ll summarize my thoughts here. My number one priority is still working with Adobe programs, especially After Effects. 3D work is also part of my workflow. If I only needed the system for work or gaming, my decision and component selection would probably be much easier. However, I need a system that can handle both. Work accounts for more than 50%, so I need to make sure it fits into my 2K Euro budget.

I’d love to go with the very latest AMD chips, but they are far too expensive, especially compared to Intel processors, which offer the same or even better performance in benchmarks. I’ve seen very few reviews of Intel’s new Ultra series that focus on actual workloads. But looking at the general benchmarking charts, as far as I can tell, the results don’t seem outstanding compared to the 13th or 14th Gen Intel CPUs or even AMD’s latest chips.

What would you recommend for my 2K Euro budget? Do you have personal experience with Intel’s 13th or 14th Gen CPUs after BIOS updates and possibly undervolting? Or is it all just nonsense and too risky to rely on them?

Go for the 265k. It's plenty fast for productivity and it's much tamer in games than 13th and 14th gen.

 

[Ruru]

I wouldn't recommend a 13th/14th gen Intel CPU to even for my worst enemy. I still wouldn't trust those chips even after BIOS updates.

 

[dgianstefani]

Go for the 265k. It's plenty fast for productivity and it's much tamer in games than 13th and 14th gen.

Yes, a 265K is legitimately good if your main goal isn't high refresh gaming. Even then, it's what, 15% slower than a 9800X3D with a 4090? That's at stock too, Intel chips have some headroom, Skatterbencher and other OC guys got 30% better min FPS (where Arrow Lake suffers) from tuning on ambient.

Then again, it's ~15% faster in applications on average (stock). So you choose your poison, a scalped 8 core gaming CPU or a cheaper 20 core.

 

[JustBenching]

Yes, a 265K is legitimately good if your main goal isn't high refresh gaming. Even then, it's what, 15% slower than a 9800X3D with a 4090? That's at stock too, Intel chips have some headroom, Skatterbencher and other OC guys got 30% better min FPS (where Arrow Lake suffers) from tuning on ambient.

Yeah, even in high refresh gaming it's stupid fast , I don't get people complaining. Im on a 12900k and oh my god is my 4090 the huge bottleneck here.

@hmn888

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JxTV6Q

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor (€403.99 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€49.89 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z890 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (€289.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€197.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€142.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€846.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€105.69 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2141.89


Check this out, the 990 pro 2 tb is cheaper than the 980 pro you had in your build, and regarding the case you can find the lancool 3 for 30€ more than the 2 if that interests you.

 

[hmn888]

Yeah, even in high refresh gaming it's stupid fast , I don't get people complaining. Im on a 12900k and oh my god is my 4090 the huge bottleneck here.

@hmn888

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JxTV6Q

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor (€403.99 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€49.89 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z890 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (€289.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€197.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€142.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€846.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€105.69 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2141.89


Check this out, the 990 pro 2 tb is cheaper than the 980 pro you had in your build, and regarding the case you can find the lancool 3 for 30€ more than the 2 if that interests you.

Thank you for the list, my friend! Recently, I’ve spent more time learning about PC components than ever before in my life. However, I still have a lot of gaps in knowledge when it comes to motherboards. I know that one is better than another if it has more slots for M.2 SSDs or supports a wider range of faster RAM. But what else explains the big price differences?

I’ve noticed that this specific motherboard is about €100 more expensive than the ones I’ve looked at so far. What makes it better than the others? I’ve read about a board for AMD chips that was otherwise great, but it had very slow loading times. Is this always the case with relatively cheaper boards?

Do you know if the Ultra series is also affected by the issues seen in the 13th and 14th gen CPUs? I’ve found very few relevant reviews about the Ultra series, which is strange since they’re relatively new and should generate more interest. Instead, people seem to talk more about older AMD chips, and the reviews haven’t been all that positive (I mean the Ultra Serie).

 

[nomdeplume]

The PC will be primarily used for work with Adobe programs (especially After Effects) and some 3D work.

Feel you are leaning towards Intel here while being concerned the tide will shift towards AMD over lifespan of this system. Core Ultra, remember this is a single board/chipset generation, was almost certainly meant to appease OEM manufacturers and corporate customers. At 50% to 70% work ratio I wouldn't dismiss them out of hand based on marketing data and benchmarks.

For Intel mobo: Considering only price, mid-range is the new low end. VRM especially took a hit on mobo for 13th and 14th gen which appears to have swung the opposite direction on 800 series mobo. 800 series options are very highly limited at the moment. Only Z boards available at release are on sale. This might cause issues for your stated budget. In any case it is highly suggested you plan for overkill cooling.