Intel Arc B580

[Legacy-ZA]

Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's 'excellent value.' A shit graphics card that performs almost as badly as Nvidia's lowest end garbage card is still shitty value, because its still $250 dollars wasted on a sub par gaming experience.

$250 vs $400-500, at least Intel, price their "shit" accordingly, unlike AMD and nGreedia that just down right scalp everyone.

 

[cerulliber]

Then get yourself scalped by rtx 4060ti 16gb wich is actually 4050ti 128bit bottleneck at 500€$

 

[Gameslove]

Great Congrats Intel! But why not 16 GB VRAM?

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Great Congrats Intel! But why not 16 GB VRAM?

Because it is a 192 bit bus. So it's either 12 or 24GB, or 18 if you found some oddball 3gb modules somewhere.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Nothing optimization can't fix. Its clear the net performance is there. We can't fault Intel for not having every game at top performance imho. That takes time, and market share. The base performance is already really good. The reality is you're not playing either of the games you mentioned at 30 FPS. You will tweak settings to get close to double that, which is possible just fine on all of these GPUs at 1080p.

Actually it doesn't even "fail hard" on the games he noted. It merely falls behind say a 4060 or 7600 by a few FPS.

Starfield is probably its worst showing, and it's *not* horrible here at 1080P, losing ~10% to the 4060:

What is far far more common is this card going toe to toe with 3060/4060 Ti, sometimes higher.

For example - for a game like Elden Ring, I consider this to be very playable at 4K.

It's smashing a $450+ 7700 XT here by 10% :

At 1080P, not as impressive but still beating a $50-$100 more expensive card (4060) by 10%:

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's 'excellent value.' A shit graphics card that performs almost as badly as Nvidia's lowest end garbage card is still shitty value, because its still $250 dollars wasted on a sub par gaming experience.

You're not very good at context are you? The whole of the internet is praising this card. Your failure to understand why is only your failure..

Great Congrats Intel! But why not 16 GB VRAM?

Wait for the B750/B770. This is the higher of the entry level cards for the 2nd gen ARC. The more advanced cards are yet to come.

 

[burnitdwn]

I'm fairly impressed. I still think for many people, a used 2080TI or 6700XT might make more sense for $220-240.
But, for a new card, its the first MSRP I've seen in a while that doesn't look like a slap in the face.

 

[wheresmycar]

Finally, 12GB GPU with a wider memory bus for around $250 - its about time! Nvidia and AMD have been skimping on bandwidth with their 12GB and 16GB entry-level cards and it seems like Intel is stepping in to change FIX things up.

I'm also impressed with the FE design, its a pretty neat looking card.

Battlemage has certainly caught my attention - not particularly in this space but i'm more interested in seeing what BM 700-series will have on offer.

 

[GeForce Junky]

In UK cheapest B580 is £250, 4060 is £260 and 4060Ti can be had for £330, so the price doesn't really make sense over going with the Nvidia options.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Actually it doesn't even "fail hard" on the games he noted. It merely falls behind say a 4060 or 7600 by a few FPS.

Starfield is probably its worst showing, and it's *not* horrible here at 1080P, losing ~10% to the 4060:

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What is far far more common is this card going toe to toe with 3060/4060 Ti, sometimes higher.

It fails because it falls behind both the 7600 and 4060 in 4 of 6 games in the situation where every extra frame is needed the most: below 60fps. As I said, hopefully that can be improved with better drivers as it should be more competitive as compared in other games.

But right now it isn't in those cases.

For example - for a game like Elden Ring, I consider this to be very playable at 4K.

It's smashing a $450+ 7700 XT here by 10% :

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Cherrypicking and then calling a $400 card "$450+"? The value is good enough without needing to exaggerate, try again.

At 1080P, not as impressive but still beating a $50-$100 more expensive card (4060) by 10%:

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Yes, this is the performance which sells this card. It's just missing in a few games where it's really needed.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

In UK cheapest B580 is £250, 4060 is £260 and 4060Ti can be had for £330, so the price doesn't really make sense over going with the Nvidia options.

The B580 is both cheaper and faster then the 4060 with more VRAM, therefore the price doesnt make sense? Wat?

 

[Ravenmaster]

You're not very good at context are you? The whole of the internet is praising this card. Your failure to understand why is only your failure..

Failure is buying this card when better ones exist that will give you a more fun experience and not leave u with buyers regret.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It fails because it falls behind both the 7600 and 4060 in 4 of 6 games in the situation where every extra frame is needed the most: below 60fps. As I said, hopefully that can be improved with better drivers as it should be more competitive as compared in other games.

You can make that same exact statement of the cards it is competing against. There are lots of places where a 7600 XT or 4060 falls behind in sub 60fps 1080p titles.

Yes, this is the performance which sells this card. It's just missing in a few games where it's really needed.

Again, you can make the same exact statement of the more expensive 7600 XT / 4060 cards.

It is absolutely normal for any GPU to have places where it is particularly strong, or particularly weak. I don't see you calling out AMD / Nvidia for their weak spots - and there are a *ton* of them in these tests.

Examples:

 

[lexluthermiester]

Failure is buying this card when better ones exist that will give you a more fun experience and not leave u with buyers regret.

Like I said, your failure at understanding the facts(context) is only your failure. This is an excellent showing for the price point.

It fails because it falls behind both the 7600 and 4060 in 4 of 6 games in the situation where every extra frame is needed the most: below 60fps.

Just like this statement is another example of failing at context. Testing was done with ALL settings on maximum. It the only way to keep result consistent and fair. However, no one with any sense plays games like that.

 

[_roman_]

I do miss the very high end in the graphs. I hope some uninformed reader does not make a wrong decision.


I sold my Radeon 6800 non xt for around 450€ in 2023. That was a low end card at time of purchase in 2023. The graph should at least have the Nvidia 4090 in it. Some could get the impression that the card is better as it is. Nothing wrong with low level - entry graphic cards.

The last of US Part I - is one of the few games I played. The graphics are low end. I expect much higher frame rate with full details in whqd for 2025 for a new graphic card. WHQD should be common these days. 1080p is the resolution from 15 years ago.

edit: I see it as 180€ card for the best graphic card mechanical solution. 150€ for a cheap graphic card board, e.g two fan design which are insanely loud - or a design which gets very hot, .... I do not see at all the 330€ asking price as of now. For 250€ or higher I expect the best driver quality, the lowest idle consumption with one or more whqd screens and several operating system support.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Failure is buying this card when better ones exist that will give you a more fun experience and not leave u with buyers regret.

You seem to be conflating performance YOU find acceptable with what is considered a good value. Spoiler: not every can or wants to afford a $450 GPU. Same goes for used cards: you have no idea how they were treated, you have no warranty. You can get scammed or stuck with bad fans that you cant find replacements for. And if you buy old AMD, well, their driver support is shorter then Nvidias, and with the 8000s coming out I doubt the 6700xt will receive any more performance enhancements, and the 2080 definitely wont. The B580 still could.

Compared to the 4060 or 7600, the B580 is an excellent value.

I do miss the very high end in the graphs. I hope some uninformed reader does not make a wrong decision.


I sold my Radeon 6800 non xt for around 450€ in 2023. That was a low end card at time of purchase in 2023. The graph should at least have the Nvidia 4090 in it. Some could get the impression that the card is better as it is. Nothing wrong with low level - entry graphic cards.

The 6800 was IN NO WAY a low end card. That would have been the RX 6400, 6500, and the 6600. 6800 was squarely mid range.

No buyer is gonna confuse a $250 B580 with a $1700 RTX 4090.

 

[Hecate91]

Failure is buying this card when better ones exist that will give you a more fun experience and not leave u with buyers regret.

What else exists at $250 that won't be quickly obsolete with only 8GB of VRAM?
IMO the B580 is a decent card, its nice to have a card with more VRAM while not getting absolutely ripped off by Nvidia.

The one thing that is weird to me is the reviewer complaining about not having DLSS, software tech proprietary to Nvidia, not the first time TPU said this though. In order for XeSS to compete with DLSS, Intel would have to be paying every dev to add it to a game, and I don't see that happening when Nvidia is likely paying more.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The B580 is both cheaper and faster then the 4060 with more VRAM, therefore the price doesnt make sense? Wat?

LMAO their user name checks out anyways.

B580 is a great second gen product. Intel has come a long way since the official A series launch in August 2022. This card should age like fine blueberry wine, as the drivers mature.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The B580 still could.

No one has talked about a B580. It's possible, but there's no talk about it.
I misread.. LOL

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

What else exists at $250 that won't be quickly obsolete with only 8GB of VRAM?
IMO the B850 is a decent card, its nice to have a card with more VRAM while not getting absolutely ripped off by Nvidia.

The one thing that is weird to me is the reviewer complaining about not having DLSS, software tech proprietary to Nvidia, not the first time TPU said this though. In order for XeSS to compete with DLSS, Intel would have to be paying every dev to add it to a game, and I don't see that happening when Nvidia is likely paying more.

The issue there is the techs are not mutually exclusive. nvidia paying more doesnt mean intel couldnt pay the sam edevs to include XeSS. They did that for about a year after Alchemist came out and it worked fairly well, but involvement has seemed to drop off. Intel has the pull and the cash, XeSS should be just as widespread by this point, especially if they're going to give us a 4070 tier card.

No one has talked about a B580. It's possible, but there's no talk about it.

I think you misread that as B850. the B580 is the very card in this review. LOL

 

[Steevo]

Looking at the games I wonder if they will see improvement with more driver CPU use, the games it falls short on seem to make up ground on higher resolution **compared to cards with the same vmem** pointing at a CPU penalty at 1080P

For Example Black Myth
1080 3060TI was 37.1FPS VS 28.9FPS = 1.2837
4K 3060Ti 9.6 VS 13.2FPS = .7272

Stalker 2
1080 3060Ti 54.4 VS 45.6 = 1.1929
4K 22.7 VS 21.2 = 1.0707

Starfield
1080 59 VS 50 = 1.18
4K 28.7 VS 26.1 =1.0996

Baldurs Gate
1080 111.9 VS 91.1 = 1.2283
4K 44.6 VS 38.9 = 1.1465

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think you misread that as B850. the B580 is the very card in this review. LOL

Right nevermind..

 

[Onasi]

Failure is buying this card when better ones exist that will give you a more fun experience and not leave u with buyers regret.

I was under the impression that it’s the act of playing video games that’s supposed to be fun, not of buying a GPU, but you do you.
Oh, and what’s the card that won’t leave one with buyers regret at 200-300 dollar price point? New ones, to be precise? I feel like we are all missing some banging bargain here, judging by your posts.

@lexluthermiester
Lex… you okay, mate?

 

[lexluthermiester]

@lexluthermiester
Lex… you okay, mate?

Yeah, I'm fine. Sleep deprivation is real...

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
I actually think that you had a moment of unintentional genius and just invented a new forum meta. If you disagree about something related to any tech product - just deny its existence. Makes life easier - why upgrade if there were no GPUs released after Pascal at all?!