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Post the idle temperature of your CPU

It causes bad performance and lack of stability but doesn't damage the wares.
Yes but the following suggests that degradation also happens when UV, which is not the case of course

I mean, CPUs withstand 100% usage at almost +100C for decades without any sign of deterioration*. Being about +40 on idle isn't a problem at all.

*unless voltage is inadequate
 
5800X3D, air cooled.

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Yes but the following suggests that degradation also happens when UV, which is not the case of course
Well if you look at it from the perspective of "water evaporates if the temperature allows it" you can see it's only one way the temperature might be and it's at least 373.15K (under normal pressure and with water being crystal clear of course).

Same with CPUs and voltages. I thought it's obvious you don't damage your stuff if you dial in too little but you do risk destroying it if you go for too high amounts of volts.
 
Main PC is 32-34*C for the package average, around 26*C minimum for the coolest cores individually, idling at 800MHz circa 2.5W. 14600KF slightly OC and undervolted, some DeepCool 50$ air cooler, PC located in the basement. Ambient temp is around 22*C right now but in summer humidity is high, the dehumidifier barely keeps up maintaining 60-65%, and variance in ambient temps in those conditions don't have any much impact on the CPU: the case design doesn't promote airflow when fully closed, which is how I like to use it because it's dead quiet, and I additionally set the quietest logical fan curves individually through extensive testing. In the winter it will drop around 17*C ambient and around 35-40% humidity level, becoming properly frisky. Then the ambient temperature impact turn things around, and I'll see about 25*C at idle on the package and about 20*C for the coolest cores, and then again regular variance in ambient temp won't affect those values in any much noticeable way once the colder weather takes hold. Even full 5*C variances in ambients, be it summer or winter, don't have much of any noticeable impact on the CPU in my settings. Only the larger seasonal shift does. Under stress, difference between winter and summer is about cut in half, like my present config will run around 95-96*C average in the summer and 91-92*C average in the winter for the CPU package - considering 100% load on all cores circa 185-190W package power. The "coolest" cores then also pretty much follow the same compression, running only about 2*C cooler than the whole package at best.

HTPC is also located in the basement, but in the finished division, open space, only a couple windows, none exposed to the sun very much. Keeps much cooler and drier during the summer. However the HTPC case design is obviously even more compact and breathes even less than my PC especially using only two 92mm case fans, and it's tightly tucked inside my AV console. The console is fully open in the back though where the hot air is exhausted, so all in all the heat build up is rather limited. Ryzen 5 2500G, Wraith 2.0 cooler, running stock. CPU temp 30-32*C all year round at idle running1600MHz circa 5W. No noticeable gap between package and individual cores temperature - as expected with these rather low TDP APUs.

Laptop is Acer Aspire 3 with probably about the lowest performance config that series offer: i3 N305, 8GB RAM. Got it on a deal around 300$ USD, and for that kind of money it's truly a surprisingly slick and efficient thing. For the concerns of this thread, an interesting feature of the chassis is the centralized placement of the exhaust trap and the fact that it creeps up, from the back, into the upper surface of the deck. I'm pleased with the rather quiet operation of it, and I think the fact the exhaust trap provides a greater surface and wider dispersion direction helps greatly with reducing "hissing" noises, while it also ensures most of it is free of any fold or bunching of textile that could possibly constrict airflow with regular corner/outer rim placement, whenever you use it on your lap (while clothed, you know) or might prop it on a matress or on a pillow or sitting into a laptop sleeve when using on the go, or whatever. Ok... so this N305 runs pretty wildly on idle, anywhere between 600 and 1600MHz, mostly around 1000-1200MHz and circa 0.8W. CPU package temp on idle tends to settle around 40*C with the laptop rested on a pillow, to show worse case scenario of air intake/exhaust, but at idle I don't expect the intake part of the deal for any laptop (nor ambient temps within normal interior variances, for that matter) to have any big effect on CPU temp due to the blower exhaust fan(s) design.

Of course we all realize in this particular thread that idle temps have little to do with CPU cooler performance, or ambient temps within a short timetable/at a specific point in time, nor is it so insightful of the CPU itself or how smart the build is when rather logically perfected for thermals under significant load, as much as they will be impacted by airflow. Ambient temps will surely gain noticeability in their impact within particularly good airflow situations for idle temps, but logically speaking, considering a computer is mostly used indoors, total ambient temps variance over a full year would be... what... around 10*C in any typical home settings, much less than that in nowadays most often tightly controlled ambient settings, so day to day and week to week, ambient temps are largely unaffecting. Idle temps mean absolutely nothing except indicating more or less restricted airflow and/or extremes of hot/cold weather in homes with insufficient/deficient/absent ambients control - or a user willingly keeping extremely cool or warm indoor temperatures either through their range of control, or through cruder measures like cracking the window open in the winter.
 
I think a high(ish) temperature might be an asset...

The argument is that if one maintains a high(ish) temperature with zero fan speed, then it might be possible to reduce temperature variations between this and load (so reducing thermal fatigue); I think this idea is more valid for soldered chips like the GPU.
 
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The above temperatures are from a '205 EUR' (new price) notebook that I have been using for more than 5 years.
It has the following specs.

Intel Celeron N3350 1,1 GHz (max. 2,4Hz)
4 GB LPDDR3
64 GB EMMC
14,1" IPS Full HD 1920 x 1080
802.11b/g/n
camera, 2 x micro, 2 x speakers, I/O ports: 1 x USB 3.0, 1 x USB 2.0, Mini HDMI, 3.5mm audio jack, micro SDHC / SDXC card slot (max. 128GB)
Li-Ion 5000 mAh/7,6V
335 x 220 x 15mm
1,3 kg
DC 12V/ 2A adapter

The cooling is completely passive. So apart from the electronic sounds of the components, it makes no noise at all.
There was Windows 10 Pro preinstalled on this notebook that I immediately replaced with a Linux system that preinstalled a custom Enlightenment window manager.
The above temperatures are from this Linux system.

The Mini-ITX case where I previously achieved CPU temperatures of 20°C (with an Intel 12700KF on air cooling) is also reasonably quiet.
Not like the fanless notebook above but it doesn't make much noise.
 
RYZEN 7 5700X + Arctic A35

Idle cpu power consumption 15-32w
CPU Fan rpm ~ 570
Case Fan rpm ~ 480


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Ambient 23C, all temps expressed as deltas over ambient because a raw temperature is useless information.

CPU: 5900X
Cooler: TR Silver Soul 135
+14C

CPU: 5800X3D
Cooler: Alphacool Eisblock XPX
+11C

CPU: 6800H
Cooler: Legion S7 Gen7 (Laptop)
+8C

TL;DR - Idle temps depend more on your BIOS settings, OS configuration, CPU type, and background services than cooling. None of these systems are controlled for that and neither are any of the posts in the previous four pages. All of my numbers are as irrelevant as yours, but this gave me something to do while the coffee was brewing just now :D
 
Ambient 23C, all temps expressed as deltas over ambient because a raw temperature is useless information.
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TL;DR - Idle temps depend more on your BIOS settings, OS configuration, CPU type, and background services than cooling. None of these systems are controlled for that and neither are any of the posts in the previous four pages. All of my numbers are as irrelevant as yours, but this gave me something to do while the coffee was brewing just now :D

All valid points.

From my previous post; CPU Package temp = 22°C, water temp = 17.8 °C.
 
My 12600kf idles between 22-25C. Not exactly sure of my room temps, but they are near 20C.
 
Switched back to my 5900X and AIO

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I don't have a thermometer in the room. With one t-shirt and one pull-over, it feels rather chilly.
But not that I'm going to put on an extra pull-over for it, so not especially cold.

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19°C (Intel 12700KF + air cooling + OpenBSD -current + ITX case)
 
Cooler is a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Current room temp is 21.4 °C

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19C in the room, system been on all day (approx 8 hrs already) conducting GPU stress testing with 24.9.1 drivers with enhanced PBO.
Deep Cool AK620 is the cooler.

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Its getting close to benching season :)

I cheated a lil..

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God damn a 14900ks?
What are you using?
 
God damn a 14900ks?
What are you using?
Custom water loop with 2 420mm EKWB RADS and 1 360mm thick boi EK rad with a EKWB Velocity2 CPU block. All in a Phanteks NV9 case which was a breeze to fit everything in. I was running a EKWB Delta 2 TEC CPU block but the connector for powering the control module was causing the TEC to shutoff in the software control.
 
room 22-23C

geez those fan speed are out of control again, have to get them to 600rpm or less ;)

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I'm idling at 31°C (8°C above room temperature) with a standard Intel CPU cooler.
 
I prefer higher temps and a silent PC on idle.

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13°C (Intel 12700KF + air cooling + OpenBSD -current + ITX case). The room temperature is around 11°C.

I use fractal design DEFINE NANO S Window -- ARCTIC F14 (intake) -- fractal design Dynamic GP-14 (intake) -- DeepCool AG500BK ARGB -- RF120W (CPU) -- RF120W (exhaust).
 
Yes, let the winter temps begin!

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