i7-7700k upgrade to 5700X3D worth it?

[nomdeplume]

IMO dont keep the 7700K whatever gpu you buy will be a bottleneck.

1- Get the 5700x3d + a new gpu

The only remaining question, in my mind, was if AM4 system was able to handle (PSU/VRM) 5700X3D and newer GPU. If all is well I concur 5700X3D now while price is attractive to them.

After which I suspect they will see why we are suggesting strongly considering a more powerful GPU than 3060 for the years ahead.

 

[docnorth]

I think people significantly downplay just how much faster the 5700x3d is compared to 7700k and the like. This might be a fun comparison..if you do end up getting the 5700X3D OP can you run some game benchmarks before and after just to see what the difference is? Can be whatever game you play.

@W1zzard has the answer already. 6700K, which is almost the same with 7700K, achieves only 70,1% vs 5800x3d at 1080. 5700x3d is not far behind, it means close to 40% faster (with a 3080).

 

[Hyderz]

its 2025 i for one not invest in am4....
am5 cpu can be compareable and leaves you with more upgrade path
similar money being spent why not get the newer platform....

no offense to the 5700x3d it is a good gaming cpu i would put money into am5

 

[eidairaman1]

its 2025 i for one not invest in am4....
am5 cpu can be compareable and leaves you with more upgrade path
similar money being spent why not get the newer platform....

no offense to the 5700x3d it is a good gaming cpu i would put money into am5

User already has am4, the existing ram in 7700 can be migrated which reduces costs

 

[matpc]

good choice but considering you will have to get another mobo , i think a r5 7600 would be more interesting

edit : forgot you had a am4 board then yes , the 5700x3d 100% worth it

 

[DAPUNISHER]

How the hell did this go 4 pages? SMDH

Many have already pointed out the 3D is the bang for buck winner. I won't belabor the point.

Bringing console CPUs into the discussion is apples to oranges. Consoles do not have the API overhead a windows PC does. Even more importantly, they have dedicated hardware for runtime decompression. The CPU has to do it on PC. It all combines to require a significantly beefier CPU than the consoles use, to achieve the same results. The Spiderman games are a prime example.

Ray tracing and upscaling further increase CPU demands. Some of the other higher graphics settings place more demand on the CPU also. Hell, the current iteration of Fortnite will overload a 7700K even on competitive settings.

 

[frogmonkey]

mkppo asked for a benchmark run, so I ran it. Could do a benchmark when I get new parts as well.

This is Helldivers 2, 1440p medium settings, one of the games I want to upgrade my PC for, but it runs horrible right now, left a onedrive link to the performance log below. It seems like the GPU is the main culprit holding me back right?

Performance_Log

Note, I am at the start of the game, doing one of the early missions. I am sure the game gets much more intensive later on with large swarms of bugs and playing online with multiple people.
There is some kind of FSR performance settings, if I put that on I can hit 50-55ish FPS but the game looks like a blurry mess.

 

[AusWolf]

To be fair 7700K is close to 3600 for gaming. Still outdated, but not that much.

No it's not. It's more like a 3300X.

 

[nomdeplume]

mkppo asked for a benchmark run, so I ran it. Could do a benchmark when I get new parts as well.

This is Helldivers 2, 1440p medium settings, one of the games I want to upgrade my PC for, but it runs horrible right now, left a onedrive link to the performance log below. It seems like the GPU is the main culprit holding me back right?

Performance_Log

Note, I am at the start of the game, doing one of the early missions. I am sure the game gets much more intensive later on with large swarms of bugs and playing online with multiple people.
There is some kind of FSR performance settings, if I put that on I can hit 50-55ish FPS but the game looks like a blurry mess.

Could you please list your full system specs for both Intel and AM4 systems.

In a nutshell - full Intel system is holding back performance. Expect +++ power and temps to accompany desired changes that will require better cooling ($$$).


5700X3D = 100% GTX1070 potential + refinement of performance in games. Modern CPU do a lot of highly technical work in the background few will ever set up and maintain.
[GPU] = Software improvements -(minus) full graphical performance %. You will clearly see every flaw and system stutter pushing higher framerates and game settings. Worse in time.

5700X3D+[GPU] = A lot more technical set up and benchmark testing in order to reach baseline performance than you'd expect. For most intents and purposes this is a one and done investment of time that linkable sections of this site will greatly simplify. This is unfortunately the reality that stands between where you are now and years of simply opening a game with no further headaches. Any GPU the price comes down on that is better than a 3060 will extend this enjoyable phase.

 

[SL2]

They release a CPU generation every year.

Once a year was a long time ago.

Days between TPU Reviews -

1800X
398 days
2700X
444 days
3700X
488 days
5800X
691 days
7700X
682 days, or over 22 months.
9700X

I'm Assuming Zen6 is AM5. I'd guess Zen6 will start selling in April 2026 at earliest, which is 15 months from now. Then we will have to wait at least 18 months for AM6.

So, saying that AM6 is 3 years away isn't extreme IMO, but who knows.

I would however suggest if money really is an issue a Ryzen 5600 will also be a good upgrade and should cost significantly less than the 5700x3d.

Absolutely. Pushing money towards the GPU is much better here. I'm seeing a €120 difference in new CPU's.

AM4 doesn't make sense if buying everything new, but if the OP already have a board it's a no-brainer.

Just dont buy the 5500! A different, slower breed.

Get your next GPU first.

Agreed. Then get a $100 5600/5600X later on.

 

[frogmonkey]

Could you please list your full system specs for both Intel and AM4 systems.

In a nutshell - full Intel system is holding back performance. Expect +++ power and temps to accompany desired changes that will require better cooling ($$$).


5700X3D = 100% GTX1070 potential + refinement of performance in games. Modern CPU do a lot of highly technical work in the background few will ever set up and maintain.
[GPU] = Software improvements -(minus) full graphical performance %. You will clearly see every flaw and system stutter pushing higher framerates and game settings. Worse in time.

5700X3D+[GPU] = A lot more technical set up and benchmark testing in order to reach baseline performance than you'd expect. For most intents and purposes this is a one and done investment of time that linkable sections of this site will greatly simplify. This is unfortunately the reality that stands between where you are now and years of simply opening a game with no further headaches. Any GPU the price comes down on that is better than a 3060 will extend this enjoyable phase.

The benchmark I ran now was on my current system.
7700k
GTX 1070
16GB RAM

I will end up getting the 5700X3D, just wanted to know from current benchmarks what was really holding me back.

As for GPU, yes the 3060 might not be that good. I've been looking at some GPU's and maybe the RX 7600 could be good, the 8GB vram is not good though.

Arc B580 seems to be perfect for my price range and has 12GB vram, but this card does seem to have issues when running on older CPU's and some other stuff.

The RX 6750 XT is another one I'm looking at.

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[freeagent]

No it's not. It's more like a 3300X.

That is waay too much credit, my 5900X boosting to 5150 is like a 6GHz 8700K.

 

[docnorth]

No it's not. It's more like a 3300X.

Ok you got me. 3600 is 1,1% faster than 3300x at 1080p (with a 2080ti).

 

[AusWolf]

Ok you got me. 3600 is 1,1% faster than 3300x at 1080p (with a 2080ti).

In the newest games? Are you sure? (I'm not being sarcastic, this is a genuine question out of curiosity)

 

[freeagent]

I would like to say quads are ok, but even after seeing some of the fastest modern quads, I would avoid using one in 2025 if I could.

 

[SL2]

No it's not. It's more like a 3300X.

It's not like the difference is big anyway. This is from 2020 with a 2080 TI.

 

[AusWolf]

It's not like the difference is big anyway. This is from 2020 with a 2080 TI.

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Yes, it's 2020 games with a 2080 Ti. The world has changed since then. Does anyone know if anyone has done any tests on the 7700K with 2024 games?

 

[nomdeplume]

The benchmark I ran now was on my current system.
7700k
GTX 1070
16GB RAM

For the ongoing purposes of this thread I will be more clear so that you may be. In order for us to be of any further aid.

Make/model of motherboard
Make/model/variant GPU
Make/model/size RAM
Make/model/size PSU
PC Case
HDD/SSD
add on/PCIe cards you consider vital
...

We are, nearly five pages later, trying to establish a competent build with critical suggestions on weak points or incompatibilities.

 

[jormungand]

I would like to say quads are ok, but even after seeing some of the fastest modern quads, I would avoid using one in 2025 if I could.

I will say that the safe spot is 8 cores in modern games. More if youre playing competitive titles.
He has a mobo and ram, 5700x3d was below $200 on xmas.
he can keep the gtx1070 for now and save money for a nice gpu upgrade.

imo 7700k is out reasoning at this point if you have the opportunity to upgrade, the freaking Ryzen 5 5600 was at $89 on xmas
that alone is a huge upgrade vs the 7700k

i helped a friend of mine who had almost the same situation.
he got a 5700g and a gigabyte b450 elite from his brother for free, upgraded his ram to 32gb 3000
and got a xfx rx7700xt for $389.

For the ongoing purposes of this thread I will be more clear so that you may be. In order for us to be of any further aid.

Make/model of motherboard
Make/model/variant GPU
Make/model/size RAM
Make/model/size PSU
PC Case
HDD/SSD
add on/PCIe cards you consider vital
...

We are, nearly five pages later, trying to establish a competent build with critical suggestions on weak points or incompatibilities.

+1
that will be great

 

[freeagent]

My kid is using my 5600X and 3070Ti, I have the boost capped to 4800MHz, and honestly for 1080/60 its pretty decent. GPU is at stock clocks..

Both components get a lot of hate, they don't do the best in benches, but it games just fine.

 

[frogmonkey]

For the ongoing purposes of this thread I will be more clear so that you may be. In order for us to be of any further aid.

Make/model of motherboard
Make/model/variant GPU
Make/model/size RAM
Make/model/size PSU
PC Case
HDD/SSD
add on/PCIe cards you consider vital
...

We are, nearly five pages later, trying to establish a competent build with critical suggestions on weak points or incompatibilities.

Strix B250F Gaming
Gainward GTX 1070
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666MHz 16GB
Seasonic Core GM 650 650W
Phanteks Eclipse P350x Mid Tower
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB
Asus PCE-AC88



The AM4 board is ASUS ROG Strix B450-F GAMING, when switching over I will just swap over all the parts I listed to the AM4 board.

I used PCPartPicker and did not find any incompatibilities, the AM4 does need a BIOS update for the 5700X3D to work but I have done that.

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[nomdeplume]

The AM4 board is ASUS ROG Strix B450-F GAMING, when switching over I will just swap over all the parts I listed to the AM4 board.

Perfect.

650w psu you own should be sufficient unless you end up with a gpu that can pull +300w. With DDR4 being low cost most places it would be suggested to pick up 2x16GB of RAM listed on your mobo QVO. Feel free to ask any technical questions about setup and make good use of the databases/forum for information.

 

[izy]

The good part is that if you want to upgrade your CPU to a 5700X or 5800X / X3D, you only need to buy the CPU since you can reuse the rest of your components. This makes it a cheaper upgrade. With the remaining budget, you could consider getting an AMD GPU (RX 6000 series), which offers great value for 1440p gaming due to its higher VRAM.

If you prefer NVIDIA, aim for an RTX 3070 or higher, but keep in mind that it will have less VRAM compared to AMD options.

You can also check the used market for a cheap 5700X or 5800X. They’re usually affordable, and you can invest the remaining money into a better GPU, which will significantly improve your system. However, if you want a long-term gaming upgrade and don't plan to upgrade again anytime soon, the 5700X3D is the better option.

 

[Toothless]

The good part is that if you want to upgrade your CPU to a 5700X or 5800X / X3D, you only need to buy the CPU since you can reuse the rest of your components. This makes it a cheaper upgrade. With the remaining budget, you could consider getting an AMD GPU (RX 6000 series), which offers great value for 1440p gaming due to its higher VRAM.

If you prefer NVIDIA, aim for an RTX 3070 or higher, but keep in mind that it will have less VRAM compared to AMD options.

You can also check the used market for a cheap 5700X or 5800X. They’re usually affordable, and you can invest the remaining money into a better GPU, which will significantly improve your system. However, if you want a long-term gaming upgrade and don't plan to upgrade again anytime soon, the 5700X3D is the better option.

5800x3d has been seen at 300+ on the low end. 5700x3d is just a smart buy overall.

 

[izy]

5800x3d has been seen at 300+ on the low end. 5700x3d is just a smart buy overall.

Sometimes you can find some cheap 5800x3d on the used market (very rare) , some sellers that want to upgrade quick to 9700x/x3d and they just want to get rid of the old components anyway an 5700x for sure you can find for cheap.