NVIDIA Investigates GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" Black Screen and BSOD Issues

[Waldorf]

some ppl need to stop telling others what to buy with their money, that most have worked hard for.

and why i join those saying vote with your wallet (against pc parts costing 4 digit $/E), doesnt mean i will sour it for those that saved up to be able to afford a xx80/90 chip.
many buy those so they can keep using the same card for +5y, not because they are stupid or have money to waste.

i paid almost 900$ for my card, since its coming with a full block, but then again only now is it getting to the point where i have to dial down settings (Horizon 5),
which would have happened at lot sooner if i had spend half that on a cheaper gpu and forced to replace it years earlier for lack of vram/raw perf.


@ZoneDymo
@Hecate91
@Daven

so i should give up +10x video encoding perf (and thats with my old 2080S), to get the better "value" brand? lol

if i cant use cuda, the gpu has ZERO value to ME.
ignoring how much more electricity im using running the pc for +1.5h, vs less than 10 min, when using the gpu for the same task.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Well, I think I might know/theory, why some people's connectors fail, and others don't. I have seen all the videos where everyone tries everything but for this:

Use a PSU that has a single rail power delivery system v.s multi rail power delivery. It could be that people overload their one rail with their multi rail PSUs

 

[Daven]

some ppl need to stop telling others what to buy with their money, that most have worked hard for.

We are complaining about the problems of a product as per the topic of the article. And they keep rolling in:

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Your encoding needs don’t justify the bad QC we are seeing. Some people are spending their hard earned money as you said and getting lower specs than advertised, black screens, burned components, etc. It’s not really fair to them as they put their trust in Nvidia, spent way over MSRP and then got burned…literally!

 

[Quicks]

So someone will move from a 4070ti /4080 / 4090 to a 9070xt because they can't find a 5090? Doesn't make sense, right? Im telling you, anyone who owns an nvidia high end card of the last couple generations doesn't have an option, they either buy nvidia or nothing.

Ever since Intel joined the GPU market everthing went for the crapper, it's almost like these guys have a secret pack waiting for Intel to get their crap together?

 

[Waldorf]

@Daven
true, i have no problem going after NV, but blaming it on ppl that buy those cards/brand is neither helpful nor proper, as long as you dont know why they decided to buy an expensive product.

 

[dyonoctis]

Here we go again. The other option is AMD and has been for a long time. Nvidia has never been very high quality. Its all hype and no substance with them. As some have said, stop buying Nvidia and look elsewhere. We need to end this monopoly before the GPU market is really screwed.

I really don't think that DIY composes the majority of GPU being shipped, and worldwide you have millions of people, students included who need a powerful PC for other stuff than gaming. Sometimes the school itself is going to buy a whole fleet of gaming PC. Nvidia market share started to shoot off once GPGPU became more common. I don't think that it's a coincidence. In the "GPU only for gamer" era, The market was much more balanced. But after 2014 ? And PC makers know that even their gaming laptops/PC are not exclusively bought by gamers. Hence why you don't see more prebuild/SI equipped with AMD gpus.

I will never shut up about the fact that AMD being more aggressive when it comes to productivty support will help them. Let's assume that productivty is "only" 20% of Nvidia userbase. If AMD could only take half of that, that would be a lot. Just think of how awesome it would be to see a dell XPS, HP Envy, Thinkpad with Halo strix instead of a RTX 4060/5060. AMD killed the shitty MX geforce in laptops. great. But if you want to kill off the mid-range nvidia GPU being used in those premium prossumers laptops, you will have to offer more than gaming performance.

 

[Hecate91]

some ppl need to stop telling others what to buy with their money, that most have worked hard for.

and why i join those saying vote with your wallet (against pc parts costing 4 digit $/E), doesnt mean i will sour it for those that saved up to be able to afford a xx80/90 chip.
many buy those so they can keep using the same card for +5y, not because they are stupid or have money to waste.

i paid almost 900$ for my card, since its coming with a full block, but then again only now is it getting to the point where i have to dial down settings (Horizon 5),
which would have happened at lot sooner if i had spend half that on a cheaper gpu and forced to replace it years earlier for lack of vram/raw perf.


@ZoneDymo
@Hecate91
@Daven

so i should give up +10x video encoding perf (and thats with my old 2080S), to get the better "value" brand? lol

if i cant use cuda, the gpu has ZERO value to ME.
ignoring how much more electricity im using running the pc for +1.5h, vs less than 10 min, when using the gpu for the same task.

The topic of the thread is cards having issues, people buying it especially if they worked hard saving up for it is a bad decision, IMO.

And I never said anyone has to give up the Nvidia card they have for an AMD or Intel one, a need for an Nvidia card doesn't excuse buying a 50 series card.
For someone to spend their money they had to save up to buy a new card to experience black screens,missing ROPs, or melting power connectors, I don't see why the issues get downplayed, these cards should be avoided until issues are fixed.

@Daven
true, i have no problem going after NV, but blaming it on ppl that buy those cards/brand is neither helpful nor proper, as long as you dont know why they decided to buy an expensive product.

To be honest the people buying these cards are a part of the problem, Nvidia doesn't care about the gaming market and it seems like they're letting consumers beta test instead of spending on QC.

 

[Vya Domus]

Don't these companies do testing and quality control anymore

Please they only have like 30 billion in revenue and 90% of market share, you can't expect that much from them.

 

[SirB]

With the latest v572.47 drivers I get black screens even with my 4080, so I think it is more of a driver problem than a hardware problem. The previous v572.42 drivers are perfectly fine for me, so I use that version.

I never have any black screens or BSOD on my 3060. On ANY driver. Sure you people know what you are doing?

 

[JustBenching]

I never have any black screens or BSOD on my 3060. On ANY driver. Sure you people know what you are doing?

I had black screens on my 3090 and i know what im doing.

 

[dyonoctis]

meanwhile in Nvidia forums...

 

[JustBenching]

meanwhile in Nvidia forums...
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Nvidia messed up this gen, but I don't get that comment. Next GPU amd? Yeah, guy has a 5090, but he is going to replace it with an xx60 tier next gen. If we had the option, nobody would be buying nvidia, we don't is the problem.

 

[Daven]

Nvidia messed up this gen, but I don't get that comment. Next GPU amd? Yeah, guy has a 5090, but he is going to replace it with an xx60 tier next gen. If we had the option, nobody would be buying nvidia, we don't is the problem.

You have AMD and Intel as options. The 5090 is not available and even if you were to get one, eventually there is a good possibility it will have problems.

No one is knocking Nvidia for being Nvidia. We are knocking them for scam pricing, power connector issues, black screens, incorrect specs, capacitors blowing, etc. How on earth are you not getting this? How many news articles will it take for you to realize that you should not buy an Nvidia GPU right now?

No one is saying don't buy Nvidia because Huang is a dick (he is by the way) or some other personal attack on the CEO or employees. We are saying it because the products are LITERALLY CATCHING ON FIRE!!!

 

[JustBenching]

You have AMD and Intel as options. The 5090 is not available and even if you were to get one, eventually there is a good possibility it will have problems.

Guy that made the comment has a 5090. If it has problems - that's what warranty is there for.

 

[Daven]

I said for that performance level, only nvidia makes cards. It's a factual statement. My brother wants to soon upgrade his 3090, what are his options? Literally, only nvidia. It is what it is.

You tell your brother to stick with his 3090 as there are numerous problems reported for the 5000 series. It's that simple. The 3090 is a fast card and is usable at least until Nvidia solves these problems and pricing comes back down to MSRP if it ever does. Are you seriously telling your brother to go buy a 5090 at up two double the MSRP when you know there are faulty cards out there?

 

[JustBenching]

You tell your brother to stick with his 3090 as there are numerous problems reported for the 5000 series. It's that simple. The 3090 is a fast card and is usable at least until Nvidia solves these problems and pricing comes back down to MSRP if it ever does. Are you seriously telling your brother to go buy a 5090 at up two double the MSRP when you know there are faulty cards out there?

Faulty cards meaning the ROPs thingy? Who cares, it's covered by warranty in the off chance you get one.

 

[Sound_Card]

many buy those so they can keep using the same card for +5y, not because they are stupid or have money to waste.

You have absolutely no evidence to support that. And it's so odd to say. Dropping $2000 for a GPU is ok because it's a five plus year thing.

The picture you are painting is that hard working construction workers saved their pretty penny for their 4 digit GPU. Very odd.

I think it is the case that people with disposable income that call themselves ''enthusiast'' are the ones dropping money. Now, it's their right to do what they want with their money, but don't act like no one can criticize these purchases, as if it's immoral to do so.

 

[Daven]

Faulty cards meaning the ROPs thingy? Who cares, it's covered by warranty in the off chance you get one.

Faulty meaning bad power connector design.
Faulty meaning bad drivers bricking cards.
Faulty meaning capacitors burning.
Faulty meaning specs lower than advertised.

Add on top of that allegations that Nvidia and AIBs are purposely baiting and switching MSRP and price gouging. But honestly you tell me, if AMD or Intel had the fastest card and was suffering all of these problems, would you still recommend it? I wouldn't. Not to friends or family or anyone.

 

[Solaris17]

You have absolutely no evidence to support that. And it's so odd to say. Dropping $2000 for a GPU is ok because it's a five plus year thing.

The picture you are painting is that hard working construction workers saved their pretty penny for their 4 digit GPU. Very odd.

I think it is the case that people with disposable income that call themselves ''enthusiast'' are the ones dropping money. Now, it's their right to do what they want with their money, but don't act like no one can criticize these purchases, as if it's immoral to do so.

If you attack or anyone attacks any one forum user for there purchases and creates toxicity as a result, it absolutely is a problem.

Seen you take this stance a few times in threads; usually trying to be the authority for other users on the topic. Figured I’d come here to set it right for you.

 

[AusWolf]

I said for that performance level, only nvidia makes cards. It's a factual statement. My brother wants to soon upgrade his 3090, what are his options? Literally, only nvidia. It is what it is.

There's also the option of waiting for something better, even though it sounds ridiculous for some people. One doesn't always have to get the latest shiny toy. The 3090 is still plenty fast.

If you attack or anyone attacks any one forum user for there purchases and creates toxicity as a result, it absolutely is a problem.

Seen you take this stance a few times in threads; usually trying to be the authority for other users on the topic. Figured I’d come here to set it right for you.

What is "toxicity"? Where is the line between "attacking someone" and "having an opinion on someone's purchase decisions"? Is "setting it right for X" not toxic in a way?

I know we're diving a bit deeper into philosophy here than we probably should, but I don't think the world is black and white.

 

[Sound_Card]

If you attack or anyone attacks any one forum user for there purchases and creates toxicity as a result, it absolutely is a problem.

Seen you take this stance a few times in threads; usually trying to be the authority for other users on the topic. Figured I’d come here to set it right for you.

Not sure what you are wanting to say here. Can you make it more clear, did I attack someone or not? Or did I attack the idea of these cards and their prices? What exactly are you setting straight?

 

[Solaris17]

There's also the option of waiting for something better, even though it sounds ridiculous for some people. One doesn't always have to get the latest shiny toy. The 3090 is still plenty fast.


What is "toxicity"? Where is the line between "attacking someone" and "having an opinion on someone's purchase decisions"? Is "setting it right for X" not toxic in a way?

I know we're diving a bit deeper into philosophy here than we probably should, but I don't think the world is black and white.

Not sure what you are wanting to say here. Can you make it more clear, did I attack someone or not? Or did I attack the idea of these cards and their prices?

it’s that black and white here. The thread is about the GPU failures; not people’s purchasing decisions. If you single out a member because of there 5090, 7900XTX, pack of gum it’s a problem it is toxic and I will give you points for it happily.

 

[Daven]

If you attack or anyone attacks any one forum user for there purchases and creates toxicity as a result, it absolutely is a problem.

Seen you take this stance a few times in threads; usually trying to be the authority for other users on the topic. Figured I’d come here to set it right for you.

But many of us worry about toxic buying bringing down the whole market. Nvidia getting to 90% of the market based on lies and falsehoods ruins the whole GPU market. End-users buying Nvidia no matter what doesn't help the situation. That's toxic too!

 

[Bronan]

If I ever win the lottery im getting an F40. Ill sleep in it if I become homeless, don't care

Apparently you never have been in a F40, you can not sleep in it and end up being a wreck in a short time.
It is a nice car to drive but long list of negatives about it.
You can not park it anywhere else than in a safe or heavy secured parking facility, if you step out for more than an hour it probably is gone when you come back
Sitting for a longer time in these machines you will find out, that it is not that fantastic, and the extreme noise will damage your ears ( yes because i am sure you will want to push the pedal alot without earplugs)
They are simply not usefull, they only are to brag and show that your rich nothing else.
I know several who have many of these cars and guess where they are housed, no clue ?!?
In a bunker underground almost never getting out been taken care by a engineer who never is allowed to drive them, several already are no longer allowed to drive on the roads as they lost the obligated tech reports from the state.
So they will stay there till he dies and someday will all be sold on auction, when the relatives need more money

 

[AusWolf]

But many of us worry about toxic buying bringing down the whole market. Nvidia getting to 90% of the market based on lies and falsehoods ruins the whole GPU market. End-users buying Nvidia no matter what doesn't help the situation. That's toxic too!

Yep. Speaking up against market trends (and not individuals), while isn't the main topic of the thread, is not toxic in my opinion.