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is it just me or are all these cards already sold out?! jesus fucking christ....lots of stock they said....lulz
 
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undervolt the card, and you still have a better value product you can use when you eventually change PSU or resale, or just need more power for one game or eventually in one or two years.
It still doesn't make sense what you guys are saying.
Yeah, I assume that the XT will drop a lot in power usage if you undervolt it and lower the clocks a bit. You want the extra GPU CUs, the extra AI cores, the extra RT cores. The non-XT version needs to drop in price.
 
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wtf retards are ALREADY paying scalper prices!!!!

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is it just me or are all these cards already sold out?! jesus fucking christ....lots of stock they said....lulz
Only ones available to purchase at Spain shops are 100-200 EUR higher than MSRP, or even more. Price tags (for MSRP ones) already show higher numbers when they get re-stocked. Crazy.
 
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is it just me or are all these cards already sold out?! jesus fucking christ....lots of stock they said....lulz
Scalpers are always there to meet excess launch demand. Just wait 3 months, the supply will get *better*.

*Assuming no tariff meltdown...
 
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Price tags (for MSRP ones) already show higher numbers when they get re-stocked. Crazy.

the magic of the restock is it brings higher prices with them.
 
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Only ones available to purchase at Spain shops are 100-200 EUR higher than MSRP, or even more. Price tags after this first batch is sold out already show higher numbers when it gets re-stocked. Crazy.
the last time I was able to do research for a GPU and tell myself "this looks like the one for me!" and I could actually buy it was the RX 5700 XT. before that I remember getting boned over on prices for an RX 580 and I got a RX 6900 XT over MSRP too. I told myself I'd never do it again, and I'm not. I'm gonna get an RX 9070 XT for $600 plus tax or not getting one at all. you're right, this market is crazy!
 
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Right now the answer appears to be "neither, because the stockpiling AMD claimed to be doing was actually nonexistent".
 
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>.>...........

The bot/scalping problem is insane anymore.

(IMO) No body should even bother to buy a graphic card for the next 4 years if this going to continue.

AMD: well have plenty of stock on launch

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you can buy the ventus usually for close to MSRP, but that's like buying a car with square wheels in order to be able to get the sticker price, you can still drive it at full speed but the riding experience is shit
Or if someone likes the sound of jets i guess.
This is true for any ventus ?
 
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the last time I was able to do research for a GPU and tell myself "this looks like the one for me!" and I could actually buy it was the RX 5700 XT. before that I remember getting boned over on prices for an RX 580 and I got a RX 6900 XT over MSRP too. I told myself I'd never do it again, and I'm not. I'm gonna get an RX 9070 XT for $600 plus tax or not getting one at all. you're right, this market is crazy!
TBH with you and the rest, I might say I took the bullet and got a Sapphire Pulse RX 9070 for 630EUR, kinda at its MSRP, just 13EUR more, which is a decent margin for the shop. Despite the frustration of not getting the XT at the accorded price, I didn't give up during the next minutes, I know just the 9070 can meet my demands for the next 4 years. I renewed my whole rig recently and according to most of the opinions in another thread, I went a lil short for my resolution. Since I'm still in return period for my current one, or I could sell it at a good price for a good friend that could get it, I think I did a good move, not to mention the extra 80W I'm gonna save in my power bill :D

Let's hope I don't spoil it and they don't send me an email warning or something, and also the delivery goes well, crossing fingers for tomorrow.
 
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I tried about 5 different models at a couple online stores and they all sold out right away. Also made it through on the Sapphire Pulse. They need to use CAPTCHA for these to try and slow bots. Wish I lived close to a Microcenter...
 
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This is true for any ventus ?

you get what you pay for, what do you expect from the cheapest option available?
i guess for very low end cards that don't use much power it doesn't make any difference, but for these cards it does.
 
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So....let's think critically for 20 seconds collectively.

If AMD has been manufacturing these (through their partners) for a few months, and if they've designed production such that it will stabilize over time, they maybe have a few months of average demand stock. Let's throw out some round numbers so people aren't stupid about this. AMD projects 2 years of sales, 100 units a month, so 2*12*100 = 2400 units sold. Their actual demand is instantly several months of cards, then quickly tapering to their 100 percent average. Think 500 sold in month one, 300 in month 2, then 100 in month 3. This means that to meet demand without any scarcity they need about 6 months of production before releasing anything (600+100+100-500-300=0)

Do any of you understand anything about actual manufacturing, or is this an entire forum of entitled idiots who believe that everything is a paper launch. I mean, if AMD came to the 500 demand with 300 cards, Nvidia came to the 500 demand with half a dozen. That's a paper launch.


This doesn't happen with other stuff because they literally spend months building a release pool. AIBs can't exactly afford to sit on silicon this expensive for months, because the payback terms stack for each step. Nvidia has to pay TSMC. AIBs have to pay Nvidia. Stores have to pay AIBs. If everyone is on 90 day terms, then we could be seeing them having to have floating inventory for months that would be a huge financial issue. Let's thought process that. TSMC manufactures a wafer, and pays for it out of pocket. Nvidia buys a finished wafer, and has a month to separate and distribute the chips. January->February. The AIB gets the silicon, and fabricates a card out of it. March. The card is shipped to a retailer, and it's turned around real quick. It's only a month, so April. That means a chunk of silicon takes 120 days to be in the hands of the consumer...and assuming they pay in cash everyone can start getting paid. So...TSMC is holding the bag for 120+90 days from the moment they pay out the silicon wafer manufacturer...assuming you ignore their repayment terms and customers who use a credit card with their own repayment terms.
Hopefully this illustrates why bemoaning a lack of supply day one is silly...but I'm guessing the entitlement runs too deeply here for people to get it. "My iPhone is available day one" is only possible because Apple can sit on their hardware for months to bank build for release, because their assembly houses can be bought and sold as commodity. Companies that truly have stable demand, like GPUs do right now, need to actually have a plan to build.


So we are clear, this is why I would hazard to say AMD has been building these cards for months...given 2+ minutes of availability. Nvidia probably started building the 5000 series in late December and early January...hence their actual inventory was the first pass of starting processes. That's like having 100 demand and getting 60 because you don't know your process well enough to hit the 120 you actually can get once all of the processes mature and stabilize.
 
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at this point I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't reported clicking on an "add to cart" button and was instead instantly redirected to Rick Astley's famous music video....we all just got rickrolled by AMD
 

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Got a Red Devil 9070 XT for 789.99$ from Micro Center, I had to stand out in the cold for 3 hours to get it though. There was actually a good amount of stock (way better than Nvidia at least), 489 9070 XTs and 129 9070s. I had the option of getting the MSRP Reaper but I wanted the 340 watt model so I can completely trounce the 4070 Ti Super I sold to get this across the board with overclocking.

As is though:

I suspect AMD will probably try to focus on improving Unreal 5 performance in future driver updates if they can given that's where their biggest losses lie at the moment.
 
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Well, this morning my area MicroCenter had probably 20 different cards in stock, many SKUs listed as 25+ available, ranging from MSRP to $850. Now there’s only maybe 10 total cards left for purchase.
 
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A few ideas with my artificial helper and several tries:


* "Market's Seldom Retailing Price" (Focuses on the market aspect)
* "Measured Seldom Retail Price" (Implies a calculated, but rare, price)
* "Merchants' Seldom Regular Price" (Highlights retailers' infrequent standard price)
* "Mostly Seldom Reliable Price" (Emphasizes unreliability, keeping "mostly")
* "Minimum Seldom Realized Price" (Suggests the lowest price rarely achieved)
* "Made Seldom Right Price" (More casual, implies errors)
* "Model's Seldom Respected Price" (Focuses on the model, and the price being ignored)
* "Momentarily Seldom Retained Price" (Highlights the fleeting nature of the price)
* "Marginally Seldom Reasonable Price" (Emphasizes the price's unreasonableness)
* "May Seldom Represent Price" (Suggests that the price is not always accurate)
 
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Retailer confirms Radeon RX 9070 “MSRP” only applies to first shipments, price set to increase later​



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Coming from a 1080TI, I was first targeting the 5090 but couldn't get one on release day which I'm very mich thankful with all the issues regarding nvidia lately. I also couldn't get the 9070 XT I was looking to buy on release day and now this news that second batch of cards will increase in price . If that happens, for the first time in my life I'm gonna buy a console to game on. Fuck gaming on a PC.
 

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Well, if the last 5 years has taught me anything it's that the best time to try and get the new hotness at MSRP is right at launch. With most cards here costing 750-850 USD or higher, and the cheaper cards evaporating at the usual rate, the discounted launch MSRP that won't last, and the high power consumption... (looks like a fair few triple 8 pin cards) A lot of my positivity for this card has basically evaporated.

I'm very happy for any of you that got one at the MSRP. Personally I wouldn't be paying 750+ for the XT.

I'm AMD want this card to have true success they need to keep the launch MSRP up, and keep stocking them.
 
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Well, if the last 5 years has taught me anything it's that the best time to try and get the new hotness at MSRP is right at launch. With most cards here costing 750-850 USD or higher, and the cheaper cards evaporating at the usual rate, the discounted launch MSRP that won't last, and the high power consumption... (looks like a fair few triple 8 pin cards) A lot of my positivity for this card has basically evaporated.

I'm very happy for any of you that got one at the MSRP. Personally I wouldn't be paying 750+ for the XT.

I'm AMD want this card to have true success they need to keep the launch MSRP up, and keep stocking them.

I don't think anyone should be excited about this generation period.

We got a 5070 that looks and smells like a 5060 and a 9070 that mostly matches that, the extra vram is nice though, and a joke of a 5070ti that cost 900+ and a slightly worse 9070XT that got jacked up in price after one day.

With the two cards above them being expensive and a terrible generational improvements even at msrp.

The only reason the 9000 series doesn't look terrible is because the 50 series is terrible. The problem is that's at msrp and none are anywhere near that. Although hats off to amd for providing more than 10 cards at the msrp for 1 day unlike Nvidia which didn't even try with the 5070....

I'm kinda shocked people are happy at all with this generation. Makes the 40 series look half decent and that was a meh generation to begin with.


But for anyone that needs a card this is the hand we were dealt it is what it is. #stagnation.

I get that the AMD only crowd is excited to finally get a card that performs like a 4070ti super welcome to the club I guess.
 
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