Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[Onasi]

Just an errant thought I had, but I find it weird that AMD hasn’t jumped on an opportunity with this release to go big and prior to release contract up Sapphire, TUL, PC Partner or whoever to make a great pile of MBA cars for them to directly sell on their website for MSRP with at least some anti-scalping measures in place. It obviously won’t be ideal, but an attempt surely is worth it, no? And sure, it might tick off AIBs a bit, but AMD really do be needing that positive rep and an increase in market share. Instead, they chose to launch with NO MBA cars at all which… why?

 

[JustBenching]

Sure, we can compare Nvidia to AMD, too. $750 vs $600 MSRP. Need I say more?

Lost cause man...i don't get why you are like that, people literally put your feet to the fire and you are still unwilling to admit amd isnt and cannot compete with nvidia, lol.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Just an errant thought I had, but I find it weird that AMD hasn’t jumped on an opportunity with this release to go big and prior to release contract up Sapphire, TUL, PC Partner or whoever to make a great pile of MBA cars for them to directly sell on their website for MSRP with at least some anti-scalping measures in place. It obviously won’t be ideal, but an attempt surely is worth it, no? And sure, it might tick off AIBs a bit, but AMD really do be needing that positive rep and an increase in market share. Instead, they chose to launch with NO MBA cars at all which… why?

Why do that when you can pretend to be the good guy for one day and then sell just the gpu die/memory to board makers and make much better margins. They are jumping at the opportunity to make as much profit as possible while Nvidia still has availability issues becuase they know if Nvidia ever hits msrp they'll likely have to lower prices.

Lost cause man...i don't get why you are like that, people literally put your feet to the fire and you are still unwilling to admit amd isnt and cannot compete with nvidia, lol.

Amd will be just fine while Nvidia is losing out 5-10 cards per week lmao. Unless Nvidia starts dumping a ton of stock somtning they don't seem interested to do amd will sell everything they can.

I think if The 9070XT was the same size die it would compete just fine honestly maybe not on a transistor density level but definitely on performance.

 

[Onasi]

@oxrufiioxo
I mean, granted, but I feel like short term profit is currently of a lesser value (or at least it should be) to AMD and the Radeon division in particular compared to actually increasing both the market and the mind share via getting their cards into people’s hands in significant enough numbers for once. It’s a good way to try and actually directly show people that they aren’t just a TEMU NVidia, a lesser option, and that they can actually make good cards with good feature-sets and solid drivers (assuming all goes well on that front) and that they can and SHOULD be considered by people. This is better marketing than a thousand of presentations. Well, unfortunately, like I said many times in the past, seems like Radeon division is just allergic to making good decisions for some reason. This isn’t an exception, IMO.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The way this Q is going, Nvidia will lose another 10% share to the others. How they will read that report -

It'll shutdown the antitrust yammering while they rake in the profits from DC. AMD will get some respite from their gaming division sucking so hard. And Intel will pick up some share, if they can figure out how to ship product.

So basically new RX 9070 XT is a RX 7800 XT but for 800$ not for 500$. Generation where cost per frame is worse not better.

That's a weird hot take; both ray tracing and upscaling are greatly improved. And Nvidia's pricing sucks this gen too. AI bubble has replaced crypto that's all.

 

[AusWolf]

Lost cause man...i don't get why you are like that, people literally put your feet to the fire and you are still unwilling to admit amd isnt and cannot compete with nvidia, lol.

You say that with nothing to support your claim. Ok. At least I mentioned price and gen-on-gen improvements which are both in AMD's favour.

Just an errant thought I had, but I find it weird that AMD hasn’t jumped on an opportunity with this release to go big and prior to release contract up Sapphire, TUL, PC Partner or whoever to make a great pile of MBA cars for them to directly sell on their website for MSRP with at least some anti-scalping measures in place. It obviously won’t be ideal, but an attempt surely is worth it, no? And sure, it might tick off AIBs a bit, but AMD really do be needing that positive rep and an increase in market share. Instead, they chose to launch with NO MBA cars at all which… why?

Possibly because making and distributing MBA cards is a cost they didn't want this time around.

 

[Zazigalka]

The 9070 series isn't made for people who want the fastest card available. I'm also not talking about the fastest card in existence. I'm talking about value and technological advancement.

Making the fastest is easy: just put a bazillion shader cores in it, raise the power limit to the sky, and you're done - demonstrated very well by Nvidia Blackwell.


In such a rapidly changing environment, all you can compare is MSRP, right? I can't talk about retail pricing in my area expecting that something happening tomorrow doesn't completely invalidate my point.

ain't seeing much value in 9070xt retailing at 900-1100 eur.

 

[Onasi]

@Zazigalka
There straight up is NO GPU model this generation that is currently even approaching resembling good value. Not really. The only possible exception is the B580. That’s kind of it. I suppose, depending in ones location and availability, the 9700XT at 900-1100 is COMPARATIVELY better value than whatever unholy violation of common sense is going on with NVs cards, but… not really feeling that angle, my dudes.

 

[Zazigalka]

@Zazigalka
9700XT at 900-1100 is COMPARATIVELY better value than whatever unholy violation of common sense is going on with NVs cards, but… not really feeling that angle, my dudes.

it's not better than 5070Ti, which also sells at 1000-1100.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

@oxrufiioxo
I mean, granted, but I feel like short term profit is currently of a lesser value (or at least it should be) to AMD and the Radeon division in particular compared to actually increasing both the market and the mind share via getting their cards into people’s hands in significant enough numbers for once. It’s a good way to try and actually directly show people that they aren’t just a TEMU NVidia, a lesser option, and that they can actually make good cards with good feature-sets and solid drivers (assuming all goes well on that front) and that they can and SHOULD be considered by people. This is better marketing than a thousand of presentations. Well, unfortunately, like I said many times in the past, seems like Radeon division is just allergic to making good decisions for some reason. This isn’t an exception, IMO.

I agree but the people at the top only care about lining their own pocket on the cpu/epyc side they are fine while Intel becomes of husk of it's former self.

For all we know Nvidia 6000 might be even worse with framgen X8 the only notable feature as long as this AI bubble continues us gamers are going to get the shaft.

These companies aren't our friends they never were and never will be.

 

[AusWolf]

ain't seeing much value in 9070xt retailing at 900-1100 eur.

There's nothing of value at the $/€/£1,000 price point. The 9070 XT is listed at around £700 here in the UK, it's only that it's not in stock anywhere. It was a steal at MSRP, it's a shame those cards lasted about 3 minutes on store shelves.

@Zazigalka
There straight up is NO GPU model this generation that is currently even approaching resembling good value. Not really. The only possible exception is the B580. That’s kind of it. I suppose, depending in ones location and availability, the 9700XT at 900-1100 is COMPARATIVELY better value than whatever unholy violation of common sense is going on with NVs cards, but… not really feeling that angle, my dudes.

I would say even the B580 isn't an exception. It would be great if you could find one at MSRP, but at least here in the UK, it comes north of £300, often even higher than the 7600 and 4060, both of which have better drivers. Not to mention the historically abysmal availability of Intel cards that's plaguing the B580, too. So no, there's really no good value card in this generation. The B580 and 9070 XT would be it at MSRP, but MSRP doesn't exist anymore. I would suggest anyone without an extreme urgency to just wait for now.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

If that's what you got by blackwell then you are severely mistaken. The 5080 doesn't have a baazilion shader cores nor does it pull as much power as amd's fastest GPU (7900xtx) and yet, it's faster, in an area (raster) that nvidia isn't even trying to be good at. So clearly, it is very hard - if it was easy amd would be doing it and grabbing all the enthusiast sales. But they can't.

And Rx 9070xt is 15% smaller and uses cheaper and slower gddr6 yet it is faster than the 4070ti super, if you really want to compare apples to oranges you can make up whatever you want. 7900xtx main gpu die is smaller than the 5080 one, and the latter even runs gddr7 yet it's barely faster in raster at 4k

 

[JustBenching]

And Rx 9070xt is 15% smaller and uses cheaper and slower gddr6 yet it is faster than the 4070ti super, if you really want to compare apples to oranges you can make up whatever you want. 7900xtx main gpu die is smaller than the 5080 one, and the latter even runs gddr7 yet it's barely faster in raster at 4k

The 7900xtx according to TPUs latest review is slower than the 4080. Even in raster. While drawing less power. Case closed, let's move on.

 

[Zazigalka]

And Rx 9070xt is 15% smaller and uses cheaper and slower gddr6 yet it is faster than the 4070ti super, if you really want to compare apples to oranges you can make up whatever you want. 7900xtx main gpu die is smaller than the 5080 one, and the latter even runs gddr7 yet it's barely faster in raster at 4k

If you want to compare die size and performance, compare against 4080 Super since this is a full ad103. 4070tiS is cut by 20%. Full 103 is 10% faster and uses 60-70w less than 9070xt

 

[nguyen]

The current state of gaming GPU, in a nutshell

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The current state of gaming GPU, in a nutshell
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Yeah, i can't believe people are arguing over who is better when the only thing they are good at is separating money from people's wallets while doing the bare minimum.

There is so much market manipulation going on right now the Mafia would be proud.

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah, i can't believe people are arguing over who is better when the only thing they are good at is separating money from people's wallets while doing the bare minimum.

There is so much market manipulation going on right now the Mafia would be proud.

Well, at least I got my 9070 XT for MSRP. I guess that makes things marginally better than what any 50-series owner can say.

I do agree that the situation is bad on both fronts, though. While Nvidia is artificially limiting supply, AMD probably massively underestimated the demand for RDNA 4.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well, at least I got my 9070 XT for MSRP. I guess that makes things marginally better than what any 50-series owner can say.

I do agree that the situation is bad on both fronts, though. While Nvidia is artificially limiting supply, AMD probably massively underestimated the demand for RDNA 4.

Happy you got one but ever at msrp everything is pretty meh to me. We got the worst Nvidia generation I can remember against a we've almost caught up but not quite generation from AMD...

 

[wolf]

Well, at least I got my 9070 XT for MSRP. I guess that makes things marginally better than what any 50-series owner can say.

Do you think literally nobody got a 50 series at MSRP? I personally know several, let alone what I've seen online. Anyone who snagged at launch or buys the FE direct from Nvidia gets MSRP.

For sure there are far less of them (cards being sold at MSRP), and I'd probably agree more 9070 series could be had at MSRP at launch, but the truth doesn't need to be stretched here.

Hope you like the 9070XT! how is it so far?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Do you think literally nobody got a 50 series at MSRP? I personally know several, let alone what I've seen online. Anyone who snagged at launch or buys the FE direct from Nvidia gets MSRP.

For sure there are far less of them (cards being sold at MSRP), and I'd probably agree more 9070 series could be had at MSRP at launch, but the truth doesn't need to be stretched here.

Hope you like the 9070XT! how is it so far?

Also getting them at msrp I still wouldn't feel great....

I'm so happy I got a meh generation card at it's already inflated fake msrp... got to pat myself on the back for that one.

 

[mb194dc]

Yeah, i can't believe people are arguing over who is better when the only thing they are good at is separating money from people's wallets while doing the bare minimum.

There is so much market manipulation going on right now the Mafia would be proud.

AMD legitimately trying to gain market share with a $600 4080 equivalent.

The manipulation has been coming from retailers. Lying through there teeth when they know there's huge amounts of stock in the pipeline...

People are so easily manipulated now, you can see it in all the crypto pump and dump scams. They don't question anything, no matter how stupid it is.

Nvidia possibly have made an Intel esq mistake using gddr7, because there isn't much being produced...

What will be left for them in 12 months when demand for LLM accelerators probably goes to zero ?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

AMD legitimately trying to gain market share with a $600 4080 equivalent.

The manipulation has been coming from retailers. Lying through there teeth when they know there's huge amounts of stock in the pipeline...

People are so easily manipulated now, you can see it in all the crypto pump and dump scams. They don't question anything, no matter how stupid it is.

Nvidia possibly have made an Intel esq mistake using gddr7, because there isn't much being produced...

What will be left for them in 12 months when demand for LLM accelerators probably goes to zero ?

I have no issues with the actual prices personally if they can sell every card they make at that price they should just be more honest about the make believe msrp. When a company doesn't even offer an MBA like with the 5070ti or delays it with the 5070 or with amd doesn't even have one you can say a card cost whatever you want it doesn't mean it's what the consumer is going to pay for it.

Correct it's all of them the stores, distributors, aib but amd makes the die and could offer msrp models if it chose to same with Nvidia for more than one day.

 

[JustBenching]

You say that with nothing to support your claim. Ok. At least I mentioned price and gen-on-gen improvements which are both in AMD's favour.

What more do I need to support my claim other than the reviews themselves? The 5070ti is slightly faster in raster, a lot faster in RT, with much lower power draw and let's say a slightly better upscaler and the same vram. The 9070xt has no competitive advantage, that's why it's cheaper. Being cheaper is great but that's not really a competition, the 9070xt will always be cheaper (or contrary, nvidia will always have the 5070ti at a higher price) because it's the worse product. Even if you ignore everything else the fact that it needs 80 (!!!) watts more for less performance is, oh well, not great. It's not a good card for SFF pcs with limited airflow.

EG1. When PT comes into play the 9070xt just rolls over and literally dies.

 

[cinemaware]

AMD legitimately trying to gain market share with a $600 4080 equivalent.

Only problem is that it isn't, really. Kinda funny when people lament others' naivety/etc and at the same time repeat these lazy tropes.

The fact that 9070XT does great in raster, is catching up in RT, and even beats Nvidia top dogs sometimes is a great achievement. That's also a big part of the reason why I got one (luckily at 700$ which is MSRP at my neck of the woods). But if there was a 5070Ti at 820-850 somewhere in sight, or a guarantee it will be actually available at that price in the next few months, I'd get it instead or wait. That's because Nvidia still wins at some big games (Wukong, Indy, etc) and DLSS (both availability and quality). Possibly MFG too, though that's much less important.

People forget that once we're in > 600$ zone a hundred or two more isn't really that big deal for a hobbyist with a reasonably stable income. For me, and I guess quite a few others, the extra features are worth it. North of that it gets a bit too much for me, but...well. It's easy to call other people "idiots", but when somebody has money and wants to live in the world, a grand or even two isn't really as mad as some prices for many other stupid things people spend money on everyday and nobody complaints.

What people should really get mad about isn't other buyers, or even the tired "Ngreeediaaaa", but the official scalpers - AIBs and shops. What they’re doing these days is nothing short of obscene.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What more do I need to support my claim other than the reviews themselves? The 5070ti is slightly faster in raster, a lot faster in RT, with much lower power draw and let's say a slightly better upscaler and the same vram. The 9070xt has no competitive advantage, that's why it's cheaper. Being cheaper is great but that's not really a competition, the 9070xt will always be cheaper (or contrary, nvidia will always have the 5070ti at a higher price) because it's the worse product.

EG1. When PT comes into play the 9070xt just rolls over and literally dies.

Even if it compared more favorably to the 5070ti, the 5070ti isn't even a good product from generational improvement so basically losing to a meh product at everything but being slightly cheaper #awesome.

Now I'll wait for UDNA and hopefully it can actually beat a meh product at something other than being slightly cheaper.