Laptop overclocking adventures

[Crion]

mh technical support advised that I should upgrade to 1+1 for best performance, both two rams must exactly be the same to overcome the possibility of incompability.

 

[kwchang007]

mh technical support advised that I should upgrade to 1+1 for best performance, both two rams must exactly be the same to overcome the possibility of incompability.

Yeah thats right. Uhh difference between 2 sticks and one, 2 sticks in theory can offer 2x the bandwidth. Probably in real life it'll give you a 50% boost in normal stuff, maybe higher on synthetic benchmarks. I don't have exact numbers, just know they're faster.

 

[theonetruewill]

Dual Channel's a lot faster, I can say I'd probably use the 2 GB and toss the .5 myself because while it'd be more data you could have in Memory at a single time they'd both run at the slower speed of the 2, that of the .5

A lot faster? Not really, still I recommend either going for a 3GB or 2x 1gB configuration. The 2.5GB doesn't give you enough performance either way: you lose dual channel, but you don't gain enough memory for it. 3GB and it might be worth it for the sheer amount of memory available.

If you guys would like to discuss this further I'll happily try and who you what I mean in some benchmarks (ie. 3x 512MB, vs 2x 512MB, vs 4x 512MB). however synthetic benchmarks will show more difference than in reality so I will use a realistic bench as well

 

[Crion]

I installed Crysis demo to test my system... At the beginning, everything was set to low, and fine. But when I dive into action, I said "Aargh! Please LG don't slow down now!"
Then I set resolution also lowest (from 800x600 to 800x480) and played a bit better.
(I also closed everything working at the background) Let me remind my system:

Core 2 Duo 1.83 Ghz (I set its fan to cool mode: Fan is cooling continiously)
1 GB DDR2 667 Mhz (512+512 Hyundai)
ATI X1400
Windows Vista (ram eater:shadedshu)

My plan is formatting the system, upgrading ram to 2 GB (1+1), shutting down all applications and try again. What can you advise 4 me? OC the processor or X1400?

 

[kwchang007]

I installed Crysis demo to test my system... At the beginning, everything was set to low, and fine. But when I dive into action, I said "Aargh! Please LG don't slow down now!"
Then I set resolution also lowest (from 800x600 to 800x480) and played a bit better.
(I also closed everything working at the background) Let me remind my system:

Core 2 Duo 1.83 Ghz (I set its fan to cool mode: Fan is cooling continiously)
1 GB DDR2 667 Mhz (512+512 Hyundai)
ATI X1400
Windows Vista (ram eater:shadedshu)

My plan is formatting the system, upgrading ram to 2 GB (1+1), shutting down all applications and try again. What can you advise 4 me? OC the processor or X1400?

The x1400, defiantly. Of course if you can overclock both thats better.

 

[Crion]

The x1400, defiantly. Of course if you can overclock both thats better.

I think you are right, but some people in the internet says that OC doesn't provide such performance increase as you are expected. What do you say about it?

 

[kwchang007]

I think you are right, but some people in the internet says that OC doesn't provide such performance increase as you are expected. What do you say about it?

I say if it helps you get playable framerates, it don't matter if its a little boost or big boost. But it did boost my 3d mark score by some.

 

[Fizban]

I can play Crysis on my 1400 with Vista...do I get framerates like a HD 2900xt or a 8800 GT/GTX/GTS/Ultra? Of course not, but it's playable.

 

[Crion]

I can play Crysis on my 1400 with Vista...do I get framerates like a HD 2900xt or a 8800 GT/GTX/GTS/Ultra? Of course not, but it's playable.

Of course it can only "playable" but my system was lacking of ram (Ram usage was around %98 ) I believe my system can execute Crysis fine (@ low) when I upgrade ram to 2 GB.

 

[theonetruewill]

I think you are right, but some people in the internet says that OC doesn't provide such performance increase as you are expected. What do you say about it?

Let me put it simply: My old X1900GT system got around 4400 in 3D06 at stock speeds on everything. After I overclocked CPU+GFX it I got 5793. Thats roughly a 30% gaming performance increase. I'd say that's pretty damn huge. Likewise with my 7600GT, I got about 3500 with everything at stock. When overclocked CPU and GFX I got 4309 (~25% increase). Never underestimate overclocking. I am not trying to boast at all here- I've been beaten score-wise by huge amounts of other people- who have also achieved far greater percentage gains than I. This is merely for illustrative purposes. I can give you evidence for all my scores should you wish.

 

[kwchang007]

I can play Crysis on my 1400 with Vista...do I get framerates like a HD 2900xt or a 8800 GT/GTX/GTS/Ultra? Of course not, but it's playable.

Well overclocked you can get better res

 

[Fizban]

98% RAM? Even with 1 GB that seems harsh, unless you meant when playing Crysis, not doing normal tasks, otherwise that means my RAM should be around 49% with Vista Business and 2 GB of RAM and... (checks Task Manager) it's more like 35%.

 

[Crion]

98% RAM? Even with 1 GB that seems harsh, unless you meant when playing Crysis, not doing normal tasks, otherwise that means my RAM should be around 49% with Vista Business and 2 GB of RAM and... (checks Task Manager) it's more like 35%.

I am using Vista Home Premium and I closed almost everything working on the background before opening Crysis. When ram usage level was under %90, everything was fine, but after that level, system start suffering and game became slower... Before Crysis ram usage was around 290 MB (as I remember)... After opening Crysis (290 + about 650 = 940 and higher of course)

 

[Crion]

Yes, I bought 1+1 rams but not upgraded my laptop yet. I installed full version of crysis yesterday, its working fine at low settings and 800x600 resolution.

 

[Pemalite]

Pentium M 1.6ghz (Dothan) @ 2.0ghz - 400mhz increase!
It basically went from 100x16 to 125x16.
3D mark 2001SE jumped from 8k to 10k.
Mobility Radeon 9700Pro Stock 400/200 @ 510/260.
Plus I tweaked my Drivers and now I am at 14 thousand 3Dmarks.
Crysis is running like butter on low settings, where as before it was rather... A nice pretty slide show. - Temperatures are fine, sitting around the 30'C mark just keeping my lap warm.
This almost makes me feel like Overclocking my Dell with the Geforce 7950! Unfortunately None of the programs seem to be working on it, I should have stuck with the Acers.

Also dude, Can you benchmark you're x1400 With 3Dmark 2001? I wouldn't mind comparing mine to yours. (My laptop is 4 years old now).

 

[kwchang007]

Pentium M 1.6ghz (Dothan) @ 2.0ghz - 400mhz increase!
It basically went from 100x16 to 125x16.
3D mark 2001SE jumped from 8k to 10k.
Mobility Radeon 9700Pro Stock 400/200 @ 510/260.
Plus I tweaked my Drivers and now I am at 14 thousand 3Dmarks.
Crysis is running like butter on low settings, where as before it was rather... A nice pretty slide show. - Temperatures are fine, sitting around the 30'C mark just keeping my lap warm.
This almost makes me feel like Overclocking my Dell with the Geforce 7950! Unfortunately None of the programs seem to be working on it, I should have stuck with the Acers.

Also dude, Can you benchmark you're x1400 With 3Dmark 2001? I wouldn't mind comparing mine to yours. (My laptop is 4 years old now).

Yeah do you want it overclocked or stock?

 

[Pemalite]

Yeah do you want it overclocked or stock?

Both?

 

[kwchang007]

Both?

K doing them now.

 

[Pemalite]

K doing them now.

I just scored 13869 3D marks ^.^

 

[kwchang007]

stock-7292, overclocked graphics-8166

 

[Pemalite]

stock-7292, overclocked graphics-8166

You can't overclock you're processor?

This is Interesting.
You're processor should be much much gruntier than Mine is, You also have double the amount of ram, which is also faster than mine.
And My Video card is only a 64mb Mobility 9700pro (Basically a desktop 9600Pro).
Let me guess, you're video card uses Hypermemory?

 

[kwchang007]

You can't overclock you're processor?

Nope. What settings are you running?

 

[Pemalite]

Everything in 3D mark is at default settings.
Maybe the 25% increase in FSB speed had something to do with it? Because that would increase the speed all the buses run at. (Like PCI, AGP Memory etc).
I'm using the Omega's and Windows XP - Fully tweaked, for optimal performance.

I'm actually annoyed when I bought this laptop, I had the choice between the 9700pro and 9800 - The 9800's can be modded into the
x800.

 

[kwchang007]

Everything in 3D mark is at default settings.
Maybe the 25% increase in FSB speed had something to do with it? Because that would increase the speed all the buses run at. (Like PCI, AGP Memory etc).
I'm using the Omega's and Windows XP - Fully tweaked, for optimal performance.

I'm actually annoyed when I bought this laptop, I had the choice between the 9700pro and 9800 - The 9800's can be modded into the
x800.

Ahhh xp there's the big difference lol.

 

[Pemalite]

Ahhh xp there's the big difference lol.

Maybe, It's only using up 69Mb of memory. (I removed all the useless services).


Here's an Idea, you might be able to upgrade you're graphics card if you're laptop uses the MXM standard.