ASUS Official Response on GIGABYTE Faulty Claims

niko084 · May 16, 2008

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
I did it for the lols.

Thread was getting abit high on tensions.

ABIT

Figured... Abit needs to get back into the game, they are not making bad stuff from what I have seen, but their support is lacking worse than anything I have ever seen recently, and they are not building the kind of quality they were in the socket 478 days.

imperialreign · May 16, 2008

OnionMan said:
That I do agree with.. Exploded.. How much of a difference does this really make to the end user? How many of us really care? Sure energy savings is great, but how often do those 'first of its kind' actually work well.. It's usually the second or third gen. that works the best.. IDK, I'm just of the opinion that Asus is not being 100% honest with us, even if it was wrong for Gigabyte to make these claims.. This might be a different story if an unrelated third party (like TPU or Tom's) made this claim ALONE..

neither company is being 100% honest in regards to their energy savings implimentation, although GIGA's DES does work better than ASUS' EPU.

but, it makes no sense that both companies have only implimented energy efficiency solutions on their high-end motherboards . . . the kind of motherboards that OCers flock to in droves. 90% of users buying these boards probably don't even intend to use the features.

Energy efficiency solutions won't make a crap of difference until they've been added to the mid-range boards.

Wizard17 · May 16, 2008

They both suck. Especially on high-end boards, they should stop putting this kind of marketing crap on. It's only asking for trouble, like automatic overclocking out of the box too, eyh ASUS? A High end board should be just that. A high end board. For that kind of money I would expect high quality stuff which works. And not like my last high end board with a RAID-controller in alpha stage. Then I got it's causin board with same thing on it. Auto-overclock meant I couldn't install windows out of the box without turning that shit off first. STOP putting crap on your high end boards. Producing quality will sell alot better than all this crap. If you need to, keep it for the low(er)-end boards! You dont buy a high end board with good overclocking capabilities to have it run on least possible power anyway ?!? It just makes no sense. For the quiet, cheap and avarage stuff, these boards are WAY to expensive anyway! This stuff simply doesn't belong on these boards! ASUS & Gigabyte, if you wanna sell, produce high end quality!

oli_ramsay · May 16, 2008

It's quite amusing to see all these big compaies bickering like children (nVidia opening a can of metaphorical "whoop-ass" on Intel lmao) and now this.

niko084 · May 16, 2008

Wizard17 said:
They both suck. Especially on high-end boards, they should stop putting this kind of marketing crap on. It's only asking for trouble, like automatic overclocking out of the box too, eyh ASUS? A High end board should be just that. A high end board. For that kind of money I would expect high quality stuff which works. And not like my last high end board with a RAID-controller in alpha stage. Then I got it's causin board with same thing on it. Auto-overclock meant I couldn't install windows out of the box without turning that shit off first. STOP putting crap on your high end boards. Producing quality will sell alot better than all this crap. If you need to, keep it for the low(er)-end boards! You dont buy a high end board with good overclocking capabilities to have it run on least possible power anyway ?!? It just makes no sense. For the quiet, cheap and avarage stuff, these boards are WAY to expensive anyway! This stuff simply doesn't belong on these boards! ASUS & Gigabyte, if you wanna sell, produce high end quality!

They do sell, number 1 and number 2....

They put alpha stage components on top tier boards becaues the people who buy them know how to use them and can get around the issues they have while getting to toy with the latest and newest options.

It makes perfect sense that they put all this stuff on the high end boards, until its perfected and stable it would be stupid to put it on low/mid line.

I can agree that it makes a mess on their high end stuff, but if you don't know how to work your way around it don't bother buying a $300+ mainboard.

These corporations are far from stupid and they know very well how to run their companies, produce sales, and keep their market.

Arctucas · May 16, 2008

And just last year Asus and Gigabyte were two divisions of the same company.

KBD · May 16, 2008

AFAIK they were never part of the same company, they did howver consider a merger and gigabyte pulled out of it. I think they also partner on certain projects.

imperialreign · May 16, 2008

KBD said:
AFAIK they were never part of the same company, they did howver consider a merger and gigabyte pulled out of it. I think they also partner on certain projects.

they've worked together before . . .

but in the motherboard realm, GIGA is to ASUS what ATI is to nVidia and AMD is to Intel.

Kovoet · May 16, 2008

I have never had a problem with ASUS and I swear by them. Gigabyte is just jealous because of the sales ASUS is getting

niko084 · May 16, 2008

I love how this is turning into a campaign on who is superior...

They both make very high quality boards, they both use misleading advertisement, they both play hardball.

PVTCaboose1337 · May 16, 2008

GO ASUS! All the way!

[I.R.A]_FBi · May 16, 2008

niko084 said:
I love how this is turning into a campaign on who is superior...

They both make very high quality boards, they both use misleading advertisement, they both play hardball.

Boars are top notch ... everything else after ....

philbrown23 · May 16, 2008

gigabye is a joke. their boards are garbage and they are pissed because people will buy asus first and gigabyte last.

KBD · May 17, 2008

philbrown23 said:
gigabye is a joke. their boards are garbage and they are pissed because people will buy asus first and gigabyte last.

I'm not defending gigabyte statements in this case, but your statement about gigabyte boards being garbage is just simply ridiculous and immature. They do make quality boards, sometimes they get it wrong, but overall quality is good. I own a gigabyte nforce590 board which has been performing superbly over the past year with no problems, a buddy of mine owns a GA-EP35-DS3R, also a very good and stable board. The same could be said of Asus, though i think they have more quality control issues than gigabyte judging by the reviews i read at egg.

niko084 · May 17, 2008

philbrown23 said:
gigabye is a joke. their boards are garbage and they are pissed because people will buy asus first and gigabyte last.

Your in the wrong forum for bashing gigabyte......
Why don't you call AMD trash too.... :slap:

Dia01 · May 17, 2008

Lower your prices ASUS and all is forgiven. :laugh:

ShadowFold · May 17, 2008

DFI owns both of them :cool:

/argument

niko084 · May 17, 2008

ShadowFold said:
DFI owns both of them /argument

Lets get real here.. DFI makes nice boards, especially for the price, but they cannot touch Asus or Gigabytes upper models... :ohwell:

tkpenalty · May 17, 2008

now asus is trying to turn gigabyte's argument into an advertisement... They haven't even bothered to give us a technical summary into how the EPU works. Still leaves gigabyte in a position to criticise ASUS.

Megasty · May 17, 2008

The only thing I like about that response is how they completely disregarded the claim w/o mudslinging GIGA into the ground. I can't get over how GIGA just out & out called them lairs. That's just too unprofessional. Otherwise it seemed like a press release because it was. Even if Asus's EPU technology is garbage GIGA could have thought of a better way then announcing it like a bunch of 7yo's.

DaedalusHelios · May 17, 2008

Both EPU and DES is not what should sell you a board. Both technologies are trendy gimmicks. :laugh:

What matters more is performance and how many DOA's the customers have to put up with.

I have never had to RMA a Gigabyte board for any problems. I have had 4 of them.

I have had to RMA 2 out of 5 Asus boards I have bought.

Asus highend performance is slightly better, but not enough to completely justify the price. Unless of course you "get off" to benchmarks. :eek:

Asus highend= Overpriced but highest performance

Gigabyte mid-range to highend= reasonable prices + stability and good performance

So if you want the highest end performance buy an Asus if the money is there for it.

And if you don't want to pay as much but want good performance still.... buy a Gigabyte.

tkpenalty · May 17, 2008

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7375&Itemid=69

^ASUS's comeback...shutting down HDDs.

DaedalusHelios · May 17, 2008

tkpenalty said:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7375&Itemid=69

^ASUS's comeback...shutting down HDDs.

Doesn't help with raid arrays and SSD's.

imperialreign · May 17, 2008

good lord . . . this is getting almost as bad as nVidia and ATI were 2+ years ago.

see . . . that's why I said earlier MSI, DFI, ABIT and whoever else need to start offering better competition in the high-end, or this will just continue for a long time between ASUS and GIGA.

At least ASUS has shown some improvement over their initial designs.

Mussels · May 17, 2008

nothing asus said actually contradicts gigabyte.

Siunds like they're aiming to confuse, get an out of court settlement and leave it to die on the roadside - we dont care about the P5Q series, what about the models already out?

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