Phenom FX in the Works, AMD to take Another shot at...Kentsfield

[BvB123]

Where does it say "Phenom FX" ? Where did I say Phenom FX comes out in September?

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AMD’s First 45nm Desktop Microprocessors Set to Arrive on the 8th of January, 2009.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...Set_to_Arrive_on_the_8th_of_January_2009.html

Advanced Micro Devices plans to announce its first desktop microprocessors produced using 45nm process technology on the 8th of January, 2009, the first day of Consumer Electronics Show. The code-named Deneb chips will not get truly high clock-speed boost, but will be able to offer substantially higher performance thanks to larger cache and architectural improvements.

The first desktop processors from AMD made using 45nm process technology will be AMD Phenom X4 chips clocked at 2.80GHz and 3.00GHz, sources familiar with AMD’s plans said. The new processors will support both DDR2 and DDR3 memory, but since the initial chips will be available in socket AM2+ form-factor, the chips will have to rely on dual-channel DDR2 PC2-8500 (1066MHz DDR2) memory.

Surprisingly, but the 45nm process technology will not allow AMD to reduce power consumption of its quad-core AMD Phenom X4 process considerably and the new chips are projected to have 125W thermal design power (TDP), inline with today’s higher-end Phenom X4 chips. Still, the new microprocessors will definitely have better performance-per-watt ratio compared to predecessors.

Earlier this year AMD said that code-named Shanghai and Deneb microprocessors, which are based on the improved K10 micro-architecture, will be able to offer higher instructions per clock (IPC) throughput compared to currently available AMD Phenom and AMD Opteron processors, which should transform into higher overall performance per clock. Thanks to higher IPC and larger level-three cache (6MB instead of 2MB), the new processors are likely to offer considerably higher speed than existing quad-core chips by AMD.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Server parts should come out just before years end, but desktop parts will have to wait. Hasn't that been the consensus for a while now?

 

[springs113]

Server parts should come out just before years end, but desktop parts will have to wait. Hasn't that been the consensus for a while now?

weren't the phenoms (agena) slated to come out the january of 2008...but in actuality they came out in late nov early dec of last year...what makes us think that amd wont pull the same thing...the 4800s were suppose to come out later than they actually did...didn't they?

don't you guys think that this is exactly what amd wants...the animosity/intensity in the way we are all talking about its products that we really haven't no clue about....

ALL THIS JUST MEANS 1 THING....THE BUZZ ABOUT AMD IS BACK....HOPEFULLY FOR GOOD THIS TIME...

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

no 4.4 then?

 

[candle_86]

nah 4.4 is to low, i heard 16.6ghz 2nm phenom

 

[TheGuruStud]

weren't the phenoms (agena) slated to come out the january of 2008...but in actuality they came out in late nov early dec of last year...what makes us think that amd wont pull the same thing...the 4800s were suppose to come out later than they actually did...didn't they?

don't you guys think that this is exactly what amd wants...the animosity/intensity in the way we are all talking about its products that we really haven't no clue about....

ALL THIS JUST MEANS 1 THING....THE BUZZ ABOUT AMD IS BACK....HOPEFULLY FOR GOOD THIS TIME...

This is a little different. It's mostly just a shrink and they've had ES for a while now. It's getting closer and closer and AMD keeps saying it's on tack as per the time line I said. Plus, AMD literally and figuratively can't afford deneb to be any later than it already is (and of course they know this, you can bet they're working really long days).

 

[Bluefox1115]

Well lets see. If a QX9770 can run at over 3GHz stock and overclock to over 5GHz, then why isn't it possible for a processor to meet somewhere in the middle, around 4GHz, say.? I mean, come on, an E8500 can run at 4.5GHz with a damn Zalman 9700, and Intels tend to run hotter than AMD anyways, so why is it impossible to have a 45nm AMD run at 4.0, when the current ones can run at 3.6 and on a 65nm die?????????


EDIT: Also, if AMD can release a 3.2GHz 90nm processor, an extra 800MHz, and a die shrink of 50% is definately possible seeing how TDP will be cut in half.

 

[springs113]

Guru...thats my point....i really do believe that these will come out b4 its time

 

[TheGuruStud]

Guru...thats my point....i really do believe that these will come out b4 its time

Oh, I thought you meant that they'll get delayed (which is the norm)

 

[From_Nowhere]

A 4.0-4.4GHz Phenom FX? I want to say "Bull****" but I will wait till the Phenom FX is released.

 

[HAL7000]

the notorious paper trail....I hope the hell this is true.

If not I will be buying Intel for the remainder of my cursed life...lol

 

[btarunr]

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AMD’s First 45nm Desktop Microprocessors Set to Arrive on the 8th of January, 2009.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...Set_to_Arrive_on_the_8th_of_January_2009.html

It still doesn't tell anything about FX ? It's merely about AMD's 45nm lineup that arrives, not the entire lineup. I hope you do understand what binning is.

 

[ASharp]

That seems like a rather huge jump for AMD. Once again like a lot of these articles, I'll believe it when I see it. I hope it's true for AMD's sake since [deity] knows I love 'em. Gonna have to pick myself up a Deneb when they come out for sure!

 

[Wile E]

Well lets see. If a QX9770 can run at over 3GHz stock and overclock to over 5GHz, then why isn't it possible for a processor to meet somewhere in the middle, around 4GHz, say.? I mean, come on, an E8500 can run at 4.5GHz with a damn Zalman 9700, and Intels tend to run hotter than AMD anyways, so why is it impossible to have a 45nm AMD run at 4.0, when the current ones can run at 3.6 and on a 65nm die?????????


EDIT: Also, if AMD can release a 3.2GHz 90nm processor, an extra 800MHz, and a die shrink of 50% is definately possible seeing how TDP will be cut in half.

Considering the 3Ghz 45nm Phenom is slated to consume 125W according the xbit link posted by bvb123 above, there is no way Deneb is gonna stock at 4GHz, unless they want it to draw 200+W.

And sorry, but the current phenoms are hotter running than the Intel Quads.

 

[fullinfusion]

it's all a marketing scheme.... ya watch.... AMd brings out a 4-4.5 quad and intel will bump there cpu also.... at least the amd is a true 4 pipe cpu.... i seen on a few web sites amd @ 4ghz clock for clock beats intel.... sh!t cant wait!!!... i run 3ghz against an intel 3gz settup using the same setup and gpu, it takes the intel 3.6 to take the led in any bench... and it's not by that much!!....

 

[Wile E]

it's all a marketing scheme.... ya watch.... AMd brings out a 4-4.5 quad and intel will bump there cpu also.... at least the amd is a true 4 pipe cpu.... i seen on a few web sites amd @ 4ghz clock for clock beats intel.... sh!t cant wait!!!... i run 3ghz against an intel 3gz settup using the same setup and gpu, it takes the intel 3.6 to take the led in any bench... and it's not by that much!!....

Bullshit. I am officially calling you out. Your cpu at 3Ghz is not as fast as mine at the majority of everything.

You have a better gpu, so graphical benches are out. But feel free to pick cpu benches.

 

[fullinfusion]

Considering the 3Ghz 45nm Phenom is slated to consume 125W according the xbit link posted by bvb123 above, there is no way Deneb is gonna stock at 4GHz, unless they want it to draw 200+W.

And sorry, but the current phenoms are hotter running than the Intel Quads.

well depends on the site you check out.... i see it runs @ less than 1.20v.... so if ppl cant afford the hydro bill every month.... than i say........ well..... oh well! im running my Phenom 9850 @ 3.5GHz @ 1.40v.... temp is 37c.... load hit's mid 40's....

 

[fullinfusion]

well depends on the site you check out.... i see it runs @ less than 1.20v.... so if ppl cant afford the hydro bill every month.... than i say........ well..... oh well! im running my Phenom 9850 @ 3.5GHz @ 1.40v.... temp is 37c.... load hit's mid 40's....

ok this is 3.000000Ghz on the core..... gpu @ 835 and memory @ 955..... so here take a look....
im just showing what i get.... no Bullshit..

 

[Wile E]

ok this is 3.000000Ghz on the core..... gpu @ 835 and memory @ 955..... so here take a look....
im just showing what i get.... no Bullshit..

That's a graphics bench, and you have a faster video card than me, so we can't compare 3DMark, unless it's only the cpu tests.

But anyway, what was your cpu score on that bench?

 

[fullinfusion]

That's a graphics bench, and you have a faster video card than me, so we can't compare 3DMark, unless it's only the cpu tests.

But anyway, what was your cpu score on that bench?

not as high as yours wile.... i cant remember the figures man.... all i know is mark 06 is more cpu bound than gpu.... im dl'ing vantage right now and will post my results when done.... i'll be @ 3.01 ghz cpu and gpu @ 835-955memory.... sound interesting? no bs man just the fact's...

 

[fullinfusion]

That's a graphics bench, and you have a faster video card than me, so we can't compare 3DMark, unless it's only the cpu tests.

But anyway, what was your cpu score on that bench?

do i need to install any patch's for Vantage Wile?

 

[Wile E]

do i need to install any patch's for Vantage Wile?

Vantage should be at 1.01. So either download the 1.01 version, or if you already have 1.0 started, grab the 1.01 hotfix/update to go with it.

 

[fullinfusion]

Vantage should be at 1.01. So either download the 1.01 version, or if you already have 1.0 started, grab the 1.01 hotfix/update to go with it.

na got the 1.01 and you want me to run 3.01 @1146 memory MHz or 892mhz? your call.... i just wana show ya what it's doing.... 1146 @ 5.5.6.15.24 or 892 @ 4.4.4.12.20.... it's up to you man.... whatever you wanna see ill bench just to give ya an idea...

 

[fullinfusion]

na got the 1.01 and you want me to run 3.01 @1146 memory MHz or 892mhz? your call.... i just wana show ya what it's doing.... 1146 @ 5.5.6.15.24 or 892 @ 4.4.4.12.20.... it's up to you man.... whatever you wanna see ill bench just to give ya an idea...

well im using 1146mhz on the mem @ a NB freq of 2365mhz with a HT link of 2150 and the memory will be unganged may be a tad slower in mark06 but not sure how she responds in Vantage..... let's see what happens...

 

[Wile E]

I can't unlink my mem, so I'll match as close as I can. If I have to err, I'll err lower than you in mem.