Phenom II at 6+ GHz: How AMD May Have Done It

[Bluesman]

More Phenom II Info

Here is a quote from an attendee at the San Francisco event Friday. SOURCE

Attended the invite only AMD event last night in SF..........

Looks like AMD will be making a big leap with this CPU......just awesome....

6.2gig LN2 WPrime 32bit run, 6.33 seconds, off the shelf CPU

5.8+ gig Crysis time demo bench passed

Both done with 1.9v to CPU....

4.4 gig on a Prometia (could be bringing mine out of retirement)

4 gig on air, even with the stock cooler (wow!), uh, get this, clocked to 4 gig it was idling @13/14*c on all cores with a coolermaster heatpipe, dual fanned monster.........

no water setup was spotted...

lots of giveaways, 6 to 8 Phenoms, to be delivered early next year, several ATI 4800's, and4 Killer Brand network gaming NIC's (I snagged one), so did my bud....

Free food, hosted bar, several attendees were giving the free Vodka a good test....

A few of these processors will trickle out late December, mainstream Jan/Feb 2009.....

Side by side DDR2 and DDR3 setups clocked to the same 4 gig, virtually a tie for performance, so save some hard earned, DDR2 will perform rather nicely.....

 

[Chicken Patty]

Here is a quote from an attendee at the San Francisco event Friday. SOURCE

wow, just awesome. Thanks bluesman. Looks like it might have a run at the i7, of course, the i7 on 4 threads. i7's on air can do 6 second passes on wprime, but with 8 threads. Although AMD clearly won't be at the top with this chip, it is definitely back in the game. Lets see what AM3 has for us.

 

[CDdude55]

''Side by side DDR2 and DDR3 setups clocked to the same 4 gig, virtually a tie for performance, so save some hard earned, DDR2 will perform rather nicely.....''

Yay!,(even tho i don't OC)

 

[Binge]

I just did a 10.1 sec run of WPrime @ 4.2ghz with 3 firefox windows open, MSN, and F@H running after my i7 has been on for 18 hours folding. I don't know if that's good

 

[Chicken Patty]

I just did a 10.1 sec run of WPrime @ 4.2ghz with 3 firefox windows open, MSN, and F@H running after my i7 has been on for 18 hours folding. I don't know if that's good

Hey binge, remember thats with 8 threads dude. I mean compare it to current gen phenoms. The importance here is not kicking intels ass, but to me its just the fact that the overclocking capabilities of the Phenom now suck ass, in exception of a few chips that have gotten up to 3.7 3.8 Ghz, but then again, only a handful.

Im sure the i7 would be quicker even on 4 threads, but its a big step forward for AMD who struggled miserably lately. hey binge, by the way, did you get that PM i sent ya?

 

[Binge]

Hey binge, remember thats with 8 threads dude. I mean compare it to current gen phenoms. The importance here is not kicking intels ass, but to me its just the fact that the overclocking capabilities of the Phenom now suck ass, in exception of a few chips that have gotten up to 3.7 3.8 Ghz, but then again, only a handful.

Im sure the i7 would be quicker even on 4 threads, but its a big step forward for AMD who struggled miserably lately. hey binge, by the way, did you get that PM i sent ya?

That score is with 4 threads. My 8 thread score is around 6.0xx. I'm glad for AMD... I really am, but I'll be excited when I see them match gaming marks at platforms $100s of dollars below Intel's systems.

Yeah I got your PM. My FS thread is updated all the time and is up to date. It's always in my sig.... Everything that is priced is what I have available.

 

[Chicken Patty]

No, that score is with 4 threads. My 8 thread score is around 6.0xx.

darn you, at least lie and just say it was 8 hehehe. Well like I said in my previous post, Phenom II is not going to be as quick, but its a big step for AMD dude, huge if you ask me. Lets see what AM3 has for us.


So did you get the PM binge????

 

[HTC]

Found a few more tidbits:

Googled translated and this one too (both were in Portuguese, originally).

Also, source of the 2nd link i posted above.

EDIT

Here's a preview:

 

[Bluesman]

Gaming Performance for Phenom II

For those of you interested. This was posted on XtremeSystems' AMD section today.

Now as i know some were wondering about gaming performance i'll just paste in what i was explaining to my uncle when i was telling him how his little gift was faring

the 9850 would let me run the game in 1920x1200 with rendering options maxed out and draw/detail distance at 15/100 and the ingame benchmark reported those settings used 94% of the video card memory, 88% of all 4 cores on the cpu, 85% of the system memory With Average of 25 Frames per second

That was with cpu overclocked to 3.4ghz and memory speed @ 1066mhz

The phenom 2 lets me run 1920x1200 with rendering options maxed out and draw/detail distance at 32/100 and the ingame benchmark reported those settings used 98% of the video card memory, 64% of all 4 cores on the cpu, 65% of the system memory With Average of 58 Frames per second with cpu at stock speed of 3.0 Ghz and memory speed @ 800mhz

And further info on his testing routine. Please note that he is comparing a 3.4Ghz Phenom I (oc'd 9850) to a 3.0Ghz Phenom II (940):

Yes gaming performance seems to be quite impressive, the CPU is actually fast enough to feed data to the GPU now. As for the benchmark, it's the in game GTA IV benchmark, which aside from being surprisingly detailed seems like a good consistent performance comparison.

Also note that the phenom II aside from being 400mhz slower then agena also had the draw/detail distance more than doubled when attaining double the frame rates. So i'm very impressed with real world performance so far, and am preparing to run crysis/warhead, farcry 2, Call of duty 4/5, Mass effect, Fallout 3, 3Dmark06/Vantage and Pcmark vantage starting with stock speeds. Any other gaming bench requests let me know, i probably have it. So look forward to seeing realworld numbers which i'll post ASAP.

 

[Bluesman]

News from Chicago Phenom II AMD Event

Here are results reported by Sampsa with Team Finland (Sampsa & SF3D). (NOTE:"3DMark05 & 06 CPU-tests were ok @ 6 GHz + We were able to run Crysis @ 6,1 GHz (2 loops CPU-test)"!!! ) XtremeSystems.Org

Hi everyone, I got back home from Chicago last night where AMD organized Dragon platform preview event.

First of all huge thanks to AMD (Macci, Simon, Pete and everyone) for inviting Team Finland (Sampsa & SF3D) to the Dragon event. It sure was a nice opportunity to run some first tests with Phenom II X4 and LN2 cooling.

Chilly system running full steam

Gigabyte's 790GX retail board

Kingpin's F1 EE full of LN2, this was so sweet

Typical Vcore we used

Here is a CPU-Z shot after some minutes of testing

Quick summary:

- All the Phenom II X4 CPUs me and SF3D tested had no cold bug at all
- All the chips we tested could do +6,1 GHz CPU-Z
- We tested with AMD's 790GX reference board and Gigabyte's retail 790GX
- Both mobos worked fine under cold, +6 GHz and +1,95V vcore
- Vcore ~1,95V was optimal for +6 GHz clocks
- 3DMark05 & 06 CPU-tests were ok @ 6 GHz
- We were able to run Crysis @ 6,1 GHz (2 loops CPU-test)
- Max CPU-Z screenshot and validation we got with 4 cores was 6280 MHz (no dirty tricks)
- With air cooling (Cooler Master Z600) highest we got Crysis stable was @ 4,13 GHz (1,58 V)

We tested couple different revisions (ES and newer ones) but lets see how it turns out when retail chips will be launched.

I don't want to make any promises but I encourage everyone to go ahead and test yourself.

These results were definitely not maximum numbers possible to achieve.. and there might be some extremely cool (literally) numbers coming soon :up:

More pics, ss and video coming soon

If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to answer (no peformance numbers because of NDA).

 

[HTC]

- Max CPU-Z screenshot and validation we got with 4 cores was 6280 MHz (no dirty tricks)

Something doesn't add up, here: according to CPU-Z's hall of fame, max OC on K10.5 is still 4.4 GHz. How could they validate it without it being in hall of fame?

Other then that, sweet!

 

[Bluesman]

Something doesn't add up, here: according to CPU-Z's hall of fame, max OC on K10.5 is still 4.4 GHz. How could they validate it without it being in hall of fame?

Other then that, sweet!

Hi HTC. I believe the hall of fame recognition is lacking because the chip has not been officially released. Thus, the chip is not available yet to everyone so it does not qualify for oc recognition?

Here is a streaming video of the event as well as other goodies: AMD Streaming Video

 

[HTC]

Hi HTC. I believe the hall of fame recognition is lacking because the chip has not been officially released. Thus, the chip is not available yet to everyone so it does not qualify for oc recognition?

Here is a streaming video of the event as well as other goodies: AMD Streaming Video

I don't think so because there's already a 4.4GHz one there.

Cool stream, dude

 

[Bluesman]

AMD Phenom II Event in Boston

The Boston event was held last night and confirmed many of the results from the SF and Chicago events. This participant has reported an astounding result comparing Phenom II 940 to i7 965:

....Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.
All in all, awesome night with some great swag given away by AMD. Thanks so much for having us guys.

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