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Phenom II X4 940 Tested at Stock Speeds

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Yeah right, AMD is winning this CPU war. Funniest joke of all time. Only all you AMD fanboys would believe this.

Nobody said "winning". It's the same "nobody needs the fastest, it needs to be fast enough" mentality that made people buy Pentium 4 / Pentium D when AMD made the fastest chips. Back then they were accused of being "fanboys" by the same factions that bought the Athlon64, Athlon64 FX. Somewhat similar, the other way round today, by the people buying the Core i7s, Core 2 Duo, etc.

I totally agree AMD is far from being the best CPU maker. I disagree with the notion that their chips are substandard with the level of performance. With only two significant players in the CPU war, that's too little competition in the first place to set "standards" and declare AMD "sub-standard". My Phenom 9750 will run absolutely any x86 game today, run any app at acceptable speeds and give me an acceptable level of computing experience.
 

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Voltage is voltage. The only difference between intel and amd is in how its used and which architecture is using it more efficiently, and efficiency is what I'm looking at. So if it takes more voltage to operate at 3ghz then it's not more efficent than a processor running at the same speed with less voltage. Temp means nothing when it comes to this as architecture plays a big part. Good example more transistors more resistance= more heat.

AMD and INTEL have diffrent designs and prosesses used, and this is also an ES(pre retail) chip, I have seen amd chips(65nm) take 1.65--1.7v for years at a time on air without dieing, on the other hand i have seen intel chips fry at 1.55-1.65, just as the old P4/P-d chips could take insain volts and temps(90c+) and keep working like it was a cool summer day when if u pass 66c most amd chips will just error out (not die, just bsod or crash any app running)

So yeah, wait and see benches from retail chips on diffrent platforms.

Also note that the bios on the systems used to test are far from optimized, In a few tests I have seen as much as a 20% gain on my buddys 9850be from bios flashes alone!!!!

ACC blah blah.... i had the 600sb mobo and went up to the 750sb mobo... ACC is so mis-understood... i can only get this cpu to run the same clocks as the 600sb system with ACC off... if i wana bump the cpu volt to 1.62v and set ACC to +4 than yeah it works but not very stable.... all i know is i should have saved my money rather than buying this new mobo and went for the I7 setup..:shadedshu

yeah, i havent even come close to maxing out my boards chipset with my current chip(4400@3.2) even when running weird devider and shit, and i have seen people i know grab 700/750 boards and have more trouble getting to their old max clocks having to up volts and dissable stuff, makes me laugh to be honest, tho i would have just saved my money and waited on PhII then go i7, at least you would have had a chance at a bios update for ur old board(its possable, theres NOTHING stoping any maker from updating an am2+ board to support 45nm chips other then greed and lazyness!!!)

Oh and Asus amd boards SUCK, some settings DONT DO ANYTHING and the asus bios dept confermed this with me via phone, settings like TRFC dont have any effect at all, and IF you have clocked much ram on am2/am2+ you learn pretty fast that backing the trfc out can be the diffrance between posting and loading into windows stable and having to clear your cmos and try again!!!!!(my current ram likes 127ns trfc).

Oh and SPI sucks as a bench, it was writen for intel chips, on an intel system, what do you expect?

when these come out, im hoping to see a drop in 9850/9950 prices to a price i can afford, will grab one up and replace my current cpu!!!!
 

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I'd like to add, Deneb won't benefit from ACC-supportive southbridge chips. The dependencies for the ACC feature are built-in, according to professional overclockers who've worked with Deneb ES chips.
 
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thats abit slow isnt it?
 

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My <INSERT PROCESSOR NAME HERE> will run absolutely any x86 game today, run any app at acceptable speeds and give me an acceptable level of computing experience.

Enough said there really...who gives two shits if AMD is faster then Intel or Intel faster than AMD so long as you can watch your porn and play your games OK????


The only people who really care are the ones who want to show off their E-Penis and post scores of P5658983 in Vantage...that's pretty boring; so as long as I can game OK I don't care if I run Intel or AMD..I buy with my wallet not my penis and if AMD do well again I will be moving back to them as I was once an owner of many AMD CPUs from K6 to A64 and I loved them all! :toast:



p.s If spending $900~ on a CPU from Intel OR AMD plus your Mobo/RAM makes you hard or wet, by all means good luck to you. :)
 
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Enough said there really...who gives two shits if AMD is faster then Intel or Intel faster than AMD so long as you can watch your porn and play your games OK????


The only people who really care are the ones who want to show off their E-Penis and post scores of P5658983 in Vantage...that's pretty boring; so as long as I can game OK I don't care if I run Intel or AMD..I buy with my wallet not my penis and if AMD do well again I will be moving back to them as I was once an owner of many AMD CPUs from K6 to A64 and I loved them all! :toast:



p.s If spending $900~ on a CPU from Intel OR AMD plus your Mobo/RAM makes you hard or wet, by all means good luck to you. :)

Most gamers who play multiplayers games that have ranked system, is the same as this.

You're taking this as a really wrong way, tweaking your pc, and make it score higher in benchmark is not a way to show E-p, it's a way to show a result of your hard work, spending time tweaking your bios, windows, and I find it's fun.
Yeah, some people like to brag about their score, but they did they say yours is suck?

So, when someone post their high score, that's mean they're showing off their E-p? Lolz.

Phenom I is a failure in gaming. I owned one, I know how it performed. Phenom II will be different, but that's a different story.

So, I really do care about that. Because It took AMD months to adjust the price of an CPU that is not worth its price (compared to the same range price from Intel at that time).
 

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Enough said there really...who gives two shits if AMD is faster then Intel or Intel faster than AMD so long as you can watch your porn and play your games OK????


The only people who really care are the ones who want to show off their E-Penis and post scores of P5658983 in Vantage...that's pretty boring; so as long as I can game OK I don't care if I run Intel or AMD..I buy with my wallet not my penis and if AMD do well again I will be moving back to them as I was once an owner of many AMD CPUs from K6 to A64 and I loved them all! :toast:



p.s If spending $900~ on a CPU from Intel OR AMD plus your Mobo/RAM makes you hard or wet, by all means good luck to you. :)
Benching is not about bragging or ePeen. It's about personal achievement, competition and fun. We do it because we like it, not to brag or show off.

I compare it directly to drag racing in cars.
 
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we back in the time when athlon x2 come time to kick intel
 

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p.s If spending $900~ on a CPU from Intel OR AMD plus your Mobo/RAM makes you hard or wet OR you'd sooner tweak away and bench then play games and have some real fun, by all means good luck to you. :)

Fixed for you all. :) :toast:
 

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Benching is not about bragging or ePeen. It's about personal achievement, competition and fun. We do it because we like it, not to brag or show off.

I compare it directly to drag racing in cars.

You have to admit...... theres some E-Pe in there somewhere! :D:D:D
 
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