Intel Core i7 Makes it Past 4.61 GHz with Water-Cooling

[kid41212003]

Trust me, I did testing with the multiplier.

Low multi + High Baseclock is alot cooler than low baseclock + high multiplier.

Consider, the Core i7 now has the triple memory controller DDR3 on chip, and 45nm same as the old Quad, I don't think 1.44v is high.

 

[Solaris17]

multiplier makes no difference on heat. that would be voltage and clock


and its really not that low of voltage on this chip maybe on a C2Q but not a i7

ya i dont have my board back from rma yet but i bealive 1.44v is a .2v bump on my chip....and 1.44 is getting up their in voltage on i7 as its a 45nm chip.

 

[human_error]

What CPU-Block do they use in the first pic?

That's a Danger Den MC-TDX i7 waterblock, which is what i've got on my i7

Can idle 3.05ghz @36 degrees c, so it's a nice little block.

 

[cdawall]

Trust me, I did testing with the multiplier.

Low multi + High Baseclock is alot cooler than low baseclock + high multiplier.

Consider, the Core i7 now has the triple memory controller DDR3 on chip, and 45nm same as the old Quad, I don't think 1.44v is high.

multi's dont have a heat output?

and it is if you go check XS they dont even break 1.68v on these chips for LN2

 

[kid41212003]

Check out 3DMark Vantage thread for that.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58927

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1148285&postcount=1601

My CPU will NOT stable under 1.34vcore (tested with prime).

With HT on, that's mean you adding 5-10 C.

Adding 0.1v to get from 4GHz HT Off -> 4.6GHz HT on is IMPRESSED. And look at the the WC setup, it's a super small rad.

 

[TheGuruStud]

So, what they're saying is that I can make spaghetti with a water loop through my pot? Awesome!

The 4 GHz PII clocks on water are nice and it won't melt the hose

(and how many CPUs did they toss before reaching this one)

 

[J-Man]

When are the next line of Intel CPU's gonna come out?

 

[TheGuruStud]

When are the next line of Intel CPU's gonna come out?

That depends. Have they seen any bulldozer designs

 

[iiee]

ya i dont have my board back from rma yet but i bealive 1.44v is a .2v bump on my chip....and 1.44 is getting up their in voltage on i7 as its a 45nm chip.

What happen to your board I cooked my MSI X58 board when trying to challenge 5Ghz, sent for RMA 1 month and just got it back yesterday.

Now time to challenge it again.... but i just don understand why it is cooked, maybe because i did not set the voltage and let it be automatic. But high voltage should cook the CPU and not mainboard...

 

[cdawall]

Check out 3DMark Vantage thread for that.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58927

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1148285&postcount=1601

My CPU will NOT stable under 1.34vcore (tested with prime).

With HT on, that's mean you adding 5-10 C.

Adding 0.1v to get from 4GHz HT Off -> 4.6GHz HT on is IMPRESSED. And look at the the WC setup, it's a super small rad.

its a 240MM double pass rad not exactly small?

 

[Binge]

On water not the i7 965

 

[Hayder_Master]

61c ideal , so it must change the title to you can't run core i7 with x32 and 1.44 using water cool , cuz with 100% load this temp go up more than 100c

 

[Rebo&Zooty]

*Yawn*

 

[Rebo&Zooty]

water cooling and air cooling are the mainstream forms of cooling so all i take into account is the speed with those

LN2, dry ice ect is just for record breaking and that cannot be run 24/7 anyway

i want to see straight i7 vs phenom II on air reviews if anyone knows of any id like to see them

me im waiting for i5 which is supposed to be the mainstream cpu line

oops, forgot to reply here

intel dosnt want i5 to be clockable, they have been working on a way to allow i5 chips to FRY when you attempt to overclock them, It may not hit the market this time, but they have been working on it, at the very least, they will beable to tell if you took your chip beyond spec, have fun with RMA's on non-enthusist platform when u have overclocked it

 

[AsphyxiA]

if thats true then thats not gonna be very good for intel. Theyll lose a lot of people to amd if their budget parts can't be tweaked. Especially if the x4 is on par in performance. With the stock benchies ive seen with the x4 im getting really excited. stock clocked pII did well even against i7.

 

[Rebo&Zooty]

yeah but intel sees the enthusist market as needing to be high profit due to far lower sales compared to the econo market, hence you endup with them wanting to RAPE enthusists and FORCE them to like it, they have wanted to do this for a long time, duno for sure if it will hit with i5 fully or if it will be held off till later, but it IS THE PLAN, they dont like people overclocking because it cuts into profits if people buy a 300$ cpu and overclock it to the same perf as a $1400 chip, they see that as them being ROBBED of $1100 they SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN for that performance.

 

[AsphyxiA]

i realize but still, its not fair. The average joe doesn't know what a cpu is. They think a computer is a magic box that says DELL on the front that thinks about starting programs when they click on those picture thingys. ;-) The point is, they're main market will not use enthusiast chips and there are plenty of shmoes around, even on here, who will buy a 1100 dollar chip just to say they have an extreme edition i7. Intel is encouraging people to show off their big fat epenises!

 

[Darknova]

i realize but still, its not fair. The average joe doesn't know what a cpu is. They think a computer is a magic box that says DELL on the front that thinks about starting programs when they click on those picture thingys. ;-) The point is, they're main market will not use enthusiast chips and there are plenty of shmoes around, even on here, who will buy a 1100 dollar chip just to say they have an extreme edition i7. Intel is encouraging people to show off their big fat epenises!

Yeah, but the point is, the average joe isn't going to try overclocking, and if they do, they get a fused chip which if they don't understand why, will think that overclocking is bad, and they'll go buy a better chip.

Unfortunately Intel has been thinking about this for the better part of 2 years...they just can't find a way to implement it yet.

 

[AsphyxiA]

i think if those average joes were to try to overclock, and fried their chip, they probably wouldn't go out and buy a better chip. Most likely they would just go out and buy a replacement and forget about doing it again. Which won't boost the enthusiast chip sales. Either way, it's good for AMD.

 

[Darknova]

i think if those average joes were to try to overclock, and fried their chip, they probably wouldn't go out and buy a better chip. Most likely they would just go out and buy a replacement and forget about doing it again. Which won't boost the enthusiast chip sales. Either way, it's good for AMD.

But why would the average joe overclock? Because he wants more performance, if he sees that overclocking is impossible, if he wants more performance he has to buy a better chip.

 

[Rebo&Zooty]

part of intels excuse is that they insist that shops are selling overclocked systems causing them problems due to all the overclocks being unstable, basickly its just bs to justify forcing us geeks to buy into an "enthusist platform"

intels real plan is if they can empliment it that if you try and overclock the chip FRYS instatly, but in such a way that the system will tell you that you ruined your chip by overclocking and will have to buy a new cpu.

aint that a bitch? overclock ur system, fry the chip, endup buying another just so u can sell the POS and buy something else thats not so limmited haha.

 

[Binge]

Nobody cares that I got 4.5ghz with a 920... geeze that should diffuse some of this muck you boys are slinging. It doesn't need to be a 965 unless your balls don't feel big enough and then you can get a 965 and some LN2 then do it properly.

 

[cdawall]

Nobody cares that I got 4.5ghz with a 920... geeze that should diffuse some of this muck you boys are slinging. It doesn't need to be a 965 unless your balls don't feel big enough and then you can get a 965 and some LN2 then do it properly.

i have seen 4.6ghz on air so no i'm not impressed

 

[AsphyxiA]

But why would the average joe overclock? Because he wants more performance, if he sees that overclocking is impossible, if he wants more performance he has to buy a better chip.

nubs overclock for a lot of reasons. Most people are satisfied with the speed of their computer. Most of these guys and gals do it because someone said it was cool. Just like how most people get into computers. Someone said it was cool. Now im not saying that there won't be some guy who go and buy a better perfoming chip that will overclock but the genral population won't. They'll panic cause they don't know what they are doing. Because they are stupid and dont know what they are doing, they will probably have the chip replaced with a similar one because hey aren't sure if any others will work. They won't do research.

part of intels excuse is that they insist that shops are selling overclocked systems causing them problems due to all the overclocks being unstable, basickly its just bs to justify forcing us geeks to buy into an "enthusist platform"

intels real plan is if they can empliment it that if you try and overclock the chip FRYS instatly, but in such a way that the system will tell you that you ruined your chip by overclocking and will have to buy a new cpu.

aint that a bitch? overclock ur system, fry the chip, endup buying another just so u can sell the POS and buy something else thats not so limmited haha.

That is exactly why this is good for AMD and the cpu market. If Intel does do this, they will lose plenty of their market because a lot of enthusiats use budget hardware. I know I did when I built my first comp. I used a 2.4gig Celery with a decent Asus board and began overclocking with that. AMD will probably not touch that scheme because they'll know these budget minded people will in fact switch over if intel does this.

keep in mind guys, im agreeing with you but it doesn't mean I can't bitch about it

 

[farlex85]

oops, forgot to reply here

intel dosnt want i5 to be clockable, they have been working on a way to allow i5 chips to FRY when you attempt to overclock them, It may not hit the market this time, but they have been working on it, at the very least, they will beable to tell if you took your chip beyond spec, have fun with RMA's on non-enthusist platform when u have overclocked it

I'm not really sure why you think you know that. Do you have some intel insiders or something? People said the same thing about i7 leading up to it's release, and well, they were wrong.

Nobody cares that I got 4.5ghz with a 920... geeze that should diffuse some of this muck you boys are slinging. It doesn't need to be a 965 unless your balls don't feel big enough and then you can get a 965 and some LN2 then do it properly.

I mean that's fine and all, I think we all know the 920 is really the only i7 of value atm. Perhaps intel set out to prove that.