Radeon HD 4870 X2, HD 4850 X2 Faster and Better Than GeForce GTX 295, 285: AMD

wolf · Jan 22, 2009

and this one, which i believe is probably THE most popular res/settings for this level of card.

and remember what newtekie said, ATi's 2 GPU solution is being matched by a single GPU, which has a lower MSRP at the moment.

their market control is going well i think, their fastest single card par's ATi's best, and the 295 is a cut above.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 22, 2009

Sega can do what Nintendon't

zithe · Jan 22, 2009

TheMailMan78 said:
Sega can do what Nintendon't

LOL.

This isn't any different than what normally goes on.

jinu · Jan 22, 2009

EvilOne said:
I remember the pre-NDA agrement for reviews on the 295, they MUST include a listed 5 games (which nvida already ran better on).

This sample of benchmarks is no worse then that was.

Its clear that ATI have selected very few games, and even fewer res/aa/af settings to show the benchmarks for. Only the ones that beat nvidia infact (*shock horror*). I think these benchmarks are as honest as every other review site out there.

So what if the 4870x2 outperforms the 295 for less money on a few things, its hardly unexpected or lies. The 295 does outperperform on almost every other test, which is what you would expect at its price point.

Wouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

EvilOne · Jan 23, 2009

exactly my point.

Tatty_Two · Jan 23, 2009

jinu said:
Wouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

Yes, thats why the sensible thing is to use reviews as ONLY an "aid" to deciding what card to buy, specifically how it performs with the games you play, unless you are a bench junkie, why would anyone but a Gfx card for say predominantly COD World at war at say $400 that gives them 95 FPS rather than a $200 card that gives them 70FPS, there will be no visible difference.....apart from in the wallet.

lepra24 · Jan 23, 2009

Go AMD & ATI GO :rockout:

Castiel · Jan 23, 2009

lepra24 said:
Go AMD & ATI GO

Amen

Tatty_Two · Jan 23, 2009

lepra24 said:
Go AMD & ATI GO

Go where?

Hayder_Master · Jan 25, 2009

iamverysmart said:
GDDR5? GDDR5 is only one part of the memory subsystem. The RAM alone doesn't determine squat.

sure i know , but this is best part and first part on the list

pabloc74 · Jan 26, 2009

Tatty_One said:
Go where?

go to the recycle bin

iamverysmart · Jan 26, 2009

hayder.master said:
sure i know , but this is best part and first part on the list

Whether it's the first part or the last part, the RAM's speed is still irrelevant because it is only PART of the memory subsystem.

It's like saying someone is attractive by only looking at their toe nails.

pabloc74 · Feb 1, 2009

honestly with 295 i have to say that i note more performance in a lot of games, and i note too that the fps don't down when the power is needed, thats not happened with 4870x2, in certains moments of the game when requieres the max power of the vga i saw the lowest fps. so, in my experience i have to say that the 295 don't have the low-down of the fps

PD: 295 less power comp, less heat and less noise

trickson · Feb 1, 2009

I hope that I can add some thing to this with out getting mixed up in all this . I hope that you will not take it as I am being a fanboy or any thing . But I have read this thread and one thing I can say is this is just a marketing ploy the people that are at the store will pick this box up and look at it they will not look at the reviews that show things in a different light . they will say wow this thing rocks ! take it to the register and buy it up .
All I see is a marketing ploy to get you to buy up this and look at the colors and the fan fare on the box too . Eye catching attractive almost hypnotic great effort on AMD's part to seduce you to buy there product . Again I hope I am on topic I hope I will not get you all mad at me for this .

DarkMatter · Feb 2, 2009

trickson said:
I hope that I can add some thing to this with out getting mixed up in all this . I hope that you will not take it as I am being a fanboy or any thing . But I have read this thread and one thing I can say is this is just a marketing ploy the people that are at the store will pick this box up and look at it they will not look at the reviews that show things in a different light . they will say wow this thing rocks ! take it to the register and buy it up .
All I see is a marketing ploy to get you to buy up this and look at the colors and the fan fare on the box too . Eye catching attractive almost hypnotic great effort on AMD's part to seduce you to buy there product . Again I hope I am on topic I hope I will not get you all mad at me for this .

This is not for the end customer, it's for AIB vendors and partners, but you got the idea pretty well. This is probably what AMD showed XFX before they started doing AMD cards.

spearman914 · Feb 2, 2009

jinu said:
Wouldnt ATI and Nvidia list games they run better on...i mean of course they would, but think of it. How many games are there that both of them cant really handle..

Probably 2, GTA IV and Crysis warheads. No single card can play them at 1920 x 1080 w/ 4x aa playable framerates like 50-60fps.

trickson · Feb 2, 2009

Hi Again I hope that I am not being a fan boy or any thing but when I look at the "scores" they have listed then look at the reviews done on X-bit Labs I can honestly say WTF?? I mean there is nothing to back up there claims . Or am I just being a fanboy ? Am I missing some thing ? Or just being to stupid ?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-geforce-gtx295.html

Maybe I am just being a stupid fanboy right ? :slap:

spearman914 · Feb 2, 2009

trickson said:
Hi Again I hope that I am not being a fan boy or any thing but when I look at the "scores" they have listed then look at the reviews done on X-bit Labs I can honestly say WTF?? I mean there is nothing to back up there claims . Or am I just being a fanboy ? Am I missing some thing ? Or just being to stupid ?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-geforce-gtx295.html

Maybe I am just being a stupid fanboy right ?

Somethings fuckin wrong, but all seem about right.

trickson · Feb 2, 2009

spearman914 said:
Somethings fuckin wrong, but all seem about right.

So I am wrong and being a fanboy ? Ok sorry about that . later .

erocker · Feb 2, 2009

Somebody needs a vacation. Enough is enough.

Tatty_Two · Feb 2, 2009

erocker said:
Somebody needs a vacation. Enough is enough.

That will be me then.....next week in the Canary Isle's for a week..... a bit of AMD/Nvidia...less Winter Sun. :rockout:

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