GeForce GTS 250 Inches Closer Launch

[Edito]

They are trying to re brand their cards in order to create a new standard in terms of names not in order to confuse us or searching for different ways to sell the same cards... i think...

 

[mdm-adph]

So your big complain is it is confusing for the consumer for nVidia to brand their cards the way they do, because consumers assume big number means better card. But it is ok for ATi's products to be just as confusing? You think the customer is dumb enough to blindly buy cards based on name alone, but smart enough to know that there are different series and the 30 50 and 70 makes a large difference? Are you being serious? You think they can figure out that the first number is the series, the second is what range the card falls in in that series, and the third is where the card falles in that range, but they can't figure out that the GTX280 is better than a 9800GTX?

Ok turn the fanboyism down a little. Again I'm not attacking Nvidias product. I'm not even defending ATIs marketing. But yeah I think when "Joe Blow" standing in a GPU isle at Best Buy sees a GTX280 he might think its slower than a 9800GTX. Why do you think they named the second Xbox "360" and not the Xbox "2"? Because Sony went with the number 3 on the PS3. So MS called the second Xbox "360" to curb this. Higher number=better for the average consumer.

Wow, I don't know who's side to take in this argument.

MailMan, we're on better terms, but I still can't take your side until you change your views on market regulation.

And newtekie, whether you honestly think this way or not, and you do a good job of debunking it, owning a AMD CPU with an ATI card and all... but sometimes your Nvidia fanboyism seems to be set to "11" on a scale from 1 to 10.

 

[newtekie1]

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Take a marketing class. The first day of Marketting 101 you should learn that your job is not to inform the customer, it is to get the customer to buy the product, ideally you want the customer to be as uninformed as possible. The only person responsible for informing the consumer is the consumer themselves.

Ok turn the fanboyism down a little. Again I'm not attacking Nvidias product. I'm not even defending ATIs marketing. But yeah I think when "Joe Blow" standing in a GPU isle at Best Buy sees a GTX280 he might think its slower than a 9800GTX. Why do you think they named the second Xbox "360" and not the Xbox "2"? Because Sony went with the number 3 on the PS3. So MS called the second Xbox "360" to curb this. Higher number=better for the average consumer.

What fanboyism? I point out that ATi's naming is just as confusing to the consumer, so I must be a fanboy? You claimed that ATi's method is better for the consumer, I pointed out that if you follow your assumption that the consumer is stupid, and buys simply based on the bigger number, then ATi's system doesn't work either. I'm not bashing it in any way, because I don't believe people buy cards based on name alone*. I'm just pointing out that ATi's naming scheme doesn't help the consumer either. I never said either one was better than the other, you said that Mr. Fanboy.

I mean, if we go by your logic, and assume the average consumer buys based solely on name alone, it is a wonder ATi managed to sell any video cards really. Their cards are only up into the 3-4000 series, nVidia is up into the 8-9000 series. The average consumer would never buy an ATi card if your logic was true.

*I know some do, but we have already gone over why they don't matter.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I have always used ATI cards because I think that their colors are better. Recently, I got into Foldin@Home and found out how much better the green cards are then the red cards. I consider myself VERY informed, but even I was surprised to find that there is no difference between the 9800 GTX+ and the GTS(thought it was X)250. I thought that there was a die shrink involved. I was holding off thinking I could save some electricity.
I understand Nvidia trying to come up with a common naming scheme, but why has it taken so long, and why are they making a big deal about it as if this is something new and better? They're setting themselves up for a class action lawsuit if the GTS250 comes out at a higher price then the 9800 GTX+.
Has anyone else found cards like the 9600GT, 8600GT, 9600XT, and so on funny? It's like saying the engine in your Yugo can go to 10K RPM instead of 8K. Always found it sad how much more those cards cost verses how much more performance they gave, and how many bought into the x6xx GT/XT badge.
Do I have a reason to hate Nvidia? Yes, I own Nforce3 motherboards with dual (not duel) core processors.

I mean, if we go by your logic, and assume the average consumer buys based solely on name alone, it is a wonder ATI managed to sell any video cards really. Their cards are only up into the 3-4000 series, nVidia is up into the 8-9000 series. The average consumer would never buy an ATI card if your logic was true.

Wanna bet? I'd love to hear from Best Buy, HP, or Dell customer service people...."but isn't the 9800GTX+ faster then the 4870, GTX260,280,285,295?????"

 

[KainXS]

At this point I don't really care, if nvidia wants to copy over the whole 9 series let em, im not gonna fall for it, if you do, too bad, lol