Smoothcreations Unveils Limited Series Reaper i7 Value PCs

[Cold Storm]

11 buck difference.. so, in all your getting it for cheaper.. because you get the paint style with it.. Anywhere it would be another 100+ just for the paint job.. I tried to get my Cosmos painted by a close friend.. they wanted 200 bucks for the time it would take.. even 100 for not doing it at the shop...

 

[sneekypeet]

Your math is wrong... the vista you get with smooth creations is OEM.

The cost of that is $179 for the OEM at the egg, so in reality its like $120 difference.

Still even with that, the price is still respectable, I never incorporated the artists cost either, but that is a taste issue. Some are willing to pay extra, some aren't.

 

[Binge]

I'm not willing to pay for that lol. I hate the airbrushed look.

 

[sneekypeet]

I'm not willing to pay for that lol. I hate the airbrushed look.

well its $120 without shipping different, and they build it for you and the Vista that is on it is a tweaked version. Not saying you cant save a couple dollars, but to the guy off the street who wont know how, this is a fair priced way to go.

 

[SeanG]

Did the math, it isnt pretty...build it yourself for $11 cheaper, but I hadnt added the shipping.

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/smooth-creations_rebuild_top.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/smooth-creations_rebuild_bottom728.jpg

Granted its a lot of money to throw at a PC in general, but the pricing is spot on.

Yeah,but thier paint jobs are like $500.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

It is not a white DVD.

I may look white due to the lighting and reflections but it is black. In person it looks really good and does not look funky.

I should know, I have one sitting right here

 

[Cold Storm]

It is not a white DVD.

I may look white due to the lighting and reflections but it is black. In person it looks really good and does not look funky.

I should know, I have one sitting right here

Damn you and the "abilities" you have!!! God I wish I had those "abilities" like you and....

 

[grunt_408]

Gotta love that artwork on the case nice

 

[Hayder_Master]

i like the case it is cool

 

[InnocentCriminal]

I don't like that. Looks tacky.

 

[MKmods]

How are you guys bitching about the cost? You would be hard pressed to find these components in another system (from a system builder) for less. I really doubt that you can get these parts from Newegg for less.

The painting skills of Smooth Creations are excellent.. What concerns me is companies continue to stress "Fashion" over "Form".

I wish companies would focus on Improving the basic design instead of hiding its deficiencies by a pretty paint job.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

Err what deficiencies? Let me get this round up finished up, 4 full systems battle it out against the SC Reaper. Then you can see the insides, front, back side to side and all of the goodies.

 

[MKmods]

Err what deficiencies?

show me a case you think has good cooling.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

It really depends on what level of cooling is needed. Any jack ass can make a case made out of fans, would that be considered good cooling?

A good case is paired up with what is inside. The Cosmos is a great case for most systems but when I put a dual Opteron rig (8x cores) in it with 2x (whatever the flagship video card at the time was) the case was trying to bake my hardware.

The same system, with the addition of two Areca RAID controllers fit well in my Lian Li V2000. No heat issues, less fans but the one placed over the PCI area made all of the difference.

The Silverstone case that SC chose for the Reaper does a great job with the components in that system. Overkill generally causes issues with noise, something that I don't really like. Just use what is needed and move on to other areas, like performance

 

[MKmods]

LOL, the Cosmos is at best (and thats being generous) a middle of the road cooling case.
(putting high end hardware in it is silly)

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

The Cosmos can take a flagship Core i7 OCed to 4.0 on air, dual 4870x2 cards and a load of ram with 4x 300GB Raptors without issue. Please define High End for me if that is not high end enough.

 

[MKmods]

just because it can take it (so can a $19 rosewill) dosent mean its a good idea.

I like Silverstone (a lot) but its cases are only just a bit better than the same ol case from 20 years ago.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

What quality must a case possess to be worthy of high end hardware? I mean, if everything is stable and running within acceptable temps when why bother complaining about it? Sure, I can take a box fan and put it above a mobo box that my motherboard is sitting on top of. That would be great cooling, it doesn’t serve my needs though. Running at 4GHz with two video cards so I can watch Youtube videos and my kids can sneak in and kick some ass on COD4 does.

 

[MKmods]

it shouldnt matter the hardware..A good case is still good with a single core sempron.

My point is (and always has been) that basic case design hasent changed in 20 years but hardware has.
(so all you dummies designing cases get with the program)

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

I think what you are really talking about is desire and not need. You may want the case to change, there is a desire in your heart for such a change. The truth is that the case has changed in 20 years, many evolutions have happened in that amount of time. If you would like to see them all just locate the ATX form factor document to see what I am talking about.
The needs have really stayed the same over that 20 year span. A component is hot, make it cool. Are Pentium 4s hotter than Core i7’s? It all comes down to the thermal envelope and product manufactures know what is acceptable for the consumer.

The BTX form factor was suppose to be a big change for our industry. The first specs listed a retention bracket that could handle up to a kilo (2.2 pounds) for a CPU cooler. The need was not there so the spec died off very quickly because of another need, low cost.

If you have a case design that would set the world on fire I can send you to engineers that can make it a reality. The problem is, as stated before, any jackass can make a case out of fans. A retail product must fit inside of a circle to be accepted and conform to everything needed.

Visually Pleasing
Low Cost
Good Performance for its target audience
Reliable


Find some good pics of the Raven, invision what it would have started out looking like and what materials were used. Then look at the retail product...see where these four things came into play and changed the product.

 

[MKmods]

lol, "Desire" is wasting a lot of money on paint that does nothing to improve the performance of the comp.... "Need" is having a comp that runs cooler without wasting a lot of $$

 

[sneekypeet]

lol, "Desire" is wasting a lot of money on paint that does nothing to improve the performance of the comp.... "Need" is having a comp that runs cooler without wasting a lot of $$

You're only "wasting" $120 over buying it without shipping. you still have to set yours up and install everything too, this is completely RTR.

For the guy who has no idea what the hell goes on inside that "flashy" box, and still wants the coolest tech on the market, this has the opportunity for plug and play over us who can build it and save realistically $50 in the end. Just we get the satisfaction of the build. The Noob can now PWN other noobs in Space Invaders 3D

 

[Easy Rhino]

that is a pretty fail graphic.

 

[MKmods]

I am sorry , "Wasting" is too strong of a word and in no way is meant to degrade Smooth Creations fine work ,
the cost of the Smooth Creations comp is way better then the High end comps from before (Alienware etc.)

However, that money could be better spent on cooling refinement and different choices in hardware

if you step back and take a look at the big picture you could build a comp that has 95% the performance for about 1/2 the cost that runs a lot cooler.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

It doesn't need to run a lot cooler. It doesn't need to run cooler at all....none, no additional cooling will give THE PERSON WHO BUYS THIS COMPUTER BETTER PERFORMANCE. No refinements needed.