NVIDIA Extends Performance Lead With New GeForce GTX 275 GPU

Tatty_Two · Apr 2, 2009

DarkMatter said:
Here happens a lot.

Never here.

phanbuey · Apr 2, 2009

Tatty_One said:
Never here.

not even the 8800GT vs 3870?...

Ketxxx · Apr 3, 2009

DarkMatter said:
They are not static. It's not related to lights, to direct lighting I mean, AO is a way to simulate indirect light (the one that comes after several reflections in walls, objects etc), so they won't move if the light sources change. But the shadows do move according to the geometry, if geometry changes the AO changes. Of course you won't see that looking at a wall.

IMO AO adds a lot of realism to the scenes, after seing one scene with it enabled I can't stand watching at the one without. It looks like a 90's game after that. That being said the last time I checked the Nvidia AO feature through the CP it was almost unusable because of the performance drop, so it's pretty much a gimmick at this point. Unless 182.50 have dramatically improved the performance with AO enabled.

Yeah and in L4D your companions flashlights don't iluminate, blame the drivers. lol.

In relation to games, thats just a fancy way of saying its adding static lighting

zithe · Apr 3, 2009

Another video card.

Hey, first non rebrand card in a while. Right?

phanbuey said:
yeah after an hour of playing with it, its not that great ... especially in L4D when it adds static shadows even when your'e shining the the flashlight on an object. *SiGh*... got excited .

Can you PM screenies? From what I'm hearing, it's not a bug. When shining a flashlight on an object with a shadow from another lightsource, the old shadow won't magically disappear. Take two flashlights and some object. A ball or a cup or some other thing. Have one flashlight laying and pointing at the object and play with the other flashlight. No matter where you put it, there will always be two shadows as there are two light sources.
Sorry. I'm off topic.

DarkMatter · Apr 3, 2009

Ketxxx said:
In relation to games, thats just a fancy way of saying its adding static lighting

Maybe to someone with no knowledge, but no, it's not even remotedly related. In fact where most noticeable is AO is in objects and models, moving objects and models. It makes a huge difference in characters. Without it they look like flat 2D magazine clipping glued there. And almost every object in the ground, including character's feet, look as if they were hovering. Normal shadows don't fix that but AO does, because it adds a subtle shadow accent all around the object like it happens in real life and not jst in light's opposite direction.

Tatty_Two · Apr 3, 2009

phanbuey said:
not even the 8800GT vs 3870?...

Nope, the 8800GT was more expensive on it's release one week after the 3870.

h3llb3nd4 · Apr 3, 2009

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/04/03/radeon-hd-4890-vs-geforce-gtx-275/18
nVidia pwnd ATI :rockout:

Tatty_Two · Apr 4, 2009

h3llb3nd4 said:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/04/03/radeon-hd-4890-vs-geforce-gtx-275/18
nVidia pwnd ATI

Sniff Sniff, do I catch "odour of fanboy"

Ketxxx · Apr 4, 2009

DarkMatter said:
Maybe to someone with no knowledge, but no, it's not even remotedly related. In fact where most noticeable is AO is in objects and models, moving objects and models. It makes a huge difference in characters. Without it they look like flat 2D magazine clipping glued there. And almost every object in the ground, including character's feet, look as if they were hovering. Normal shadows don't fix that but AO does, because it adds a subtle shadow accent all around the object like it happens in real life and not jst in light's opposite direction.

If thats the case, prove it. Upload a vid somewhere of this magical nvidia effect in action. From what I have seen, it very much just adds shadows to corners of things which means theres nothing dynamic about this effect at all.

Ketxxx · Apr 4, 2009

Tatty_One said:
Sniff Sniff, do I catch "odour of fanboy"

Allow me to nullify that thunder further

Check out the Crysis DX10 V.High results, a Dual GPU solution, AKA GTX275, only just outpaces the single GPU solution, AKA HD4890

Steevo · Apr 4, 2009

"Ready for Windows 7"

Is it DX11 compliant?

zithe · Apr 4, 2009

Steevo said:
"Ready for Windows 7"

Is it DX11 compliant?

No. It just has drivers already.

DarkMatter · Apr 4, 2009

Ketxxx said:
If thats the case, prove it. Upload a vid somewhere of this magical nvidia effect in action. From what I have seen, it very much just adds shadows to corners of things which means theres nothing dynamic about this effect at all.

From what you have interpreted you mean. What you have seen is AO which has nothing to do with static shadowing. I have nothing to prove BTW, it's not my job. Also I already said I don't have Vista. Here's some videos you could have found yourself anyway:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2592720445119800709
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ti03Tjel0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefsv8tQmAg

wolf · Apr 4, 2009

Ketxxx said:
Allow me to nullify that thunder further Check out the Crysis DX10 V.High results, a Dual GPU solution, AKA GTX275, only just outpaces the single GPU solution, AKA HD4890

??

GTX275 is single GPU, the 295 isnt on that chart at all. pretty even imo.

Tatty_Two · Apr 4, 2009

Ketxxx said:
Allow me to nullify that thunder further Check out the Crysis DX10 V.High results, a Dual GPU solution, AKA GTX275, only just outpaces the single GPU solution, AKA HD4890

Lol, nice to select one benchmark from probably 30 that say the opposite..... but thats OK, if it's true it cant be fanboism :rockout:

And you do mean 295 right?

Steevo · Apr 4, 2009

zithe said:
No. It just has drivers already.

That sounds like the same crack MS ended up in with their "Ready for Vista" laptops and desktops form OEM partners. If nvidia uses the "Ready for Windows 7" as a form of advertisement and does not have a DX11 compatable card they are asking for a lawsuit. Unless they plan on going the software compliant route......

Hayder_Master · Apr 5, 2009

with this price , thanx im go for 4890

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NVIDIA Extends Performance Lead With New GeForce GTX 275 GPU

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