AMD Cypress ''Radeon HD 5870'' Stripped

[erocker]

If it is 185w under load, then it is closer to a GTX295, which according to W1z's reviews is at about 181-182w on average under load.



Nope, until we see what DiRT 2 looks like on a DX11 card vs. a DX10 card, it is all speculation, just like 90% of this thread. But I'm guessing, since the game still runs on DX10 and DX9, I'm just guessing that DX11 isn't going to add a whole lot to the game...

I believe all DirectX is based off the previous version. Most likely there is nothing about DX10 in DX11. It's more likely DX11 features on top of DX9. Looking at the features of DX11, regardless if it's based on DX10 or DX9, they will make a significant difference in visual quality. Just look at the wire frames between DX9 and DX11. The DX11 features are significant as DX10 features were not. Either way, it's the horsepower increase I'm more concerned with. DX11 will come either way.

 

[air_ii]

If it is 185w under load, then it is closer to a GTX295, which according to W1z's reviews is at about 181-182w on average under load.

I think peak load is much higher. And the info was 185-190 max power consumption for 5870.

Edit: Just found it, TDP of GTX295 is 289W.

 

[toyo]

Helllllooo ATI??? We thought (and wanted) the 5870 at 299$...

 

[KainXS]

it will be between 350 and 400 dollars more than likely

 

[a_ump]

Helllllooo ATI??? We thought (and wanted) the 5870 at 299$...

haha that was indeed my hope. but hey, If these cards have the horsepower that has been speculated then i personally think it's worth $399, i think $349 would be ideal and a sweet spot, but then they need to try and make some cash while nvidia is out of the picture(and yes they will be come the 23rd). I too am weary of how efficient that tiny exhaust will be but no worries here got an AC unit 3 feet from my comp.

 

[Kitkat]

i want 2!

 

[KainXS]

Yeah Its definitely worth it, besides the memory its double the specs of the HD4890, its like a 4870X2 with no crossfire performance loss so it could even outperform a GTX295, we will have to wait for benches but its possible

 

[mdm-adph]

And how did I know you would troll my post, and not add anything even remotely relavant to the dicussion?

And if you noticed, I said something positive also...but you do only tend to notice when people say negative things about ATi...but you are an ATi fanboy so it is expected I guess...:shadedshu

You're either a liar or you're getting old:

I have a feeling this is still going to be a one loud ass card, the fan is going to have to work at full blast to push all the hot air out of that little openning... And that die size is huge for 40nm!

What part of this was in any way "positive?" Funny, I don't know anyone who likes "loud ass cards" or ones that have to "push all the hot air out of that little openning."

Or do you like the chip for being "huge?" Beats me.

Not to mention:

Rule #33 of the Internet: He who doth quoteth the taunt of "fanboy" first is himself the biggest fanboy.

 

[wahdangun]

look at this:

 

[KainXS]

linkies

 

[newtekie1]

I believe all DirectX is based off the previous version. Most likely there is nothing about DX10 in DX11. It's more likely DX11 features on top of DX9. Looking at the features of DX11, regardless if it's based on DX10 or DX9, they will make a significant difference in visual quality. Just look at the wire frames between DX9 and DX11. The DX11 features are significant as DX10 features were not. Either way, it's the horsepower increase I'm more concerned with. DX11 will come either way.

I highly doubt there will be a significan't difference in visual quality, certianly not in the first DX11 game, which is still based on DX9...

I think peak load is much higher. And the info was 185-190 max power consumption for 5870.

Edit: Just found it, TDP of GTX295 is 289W.

298w is way over what the actual TDP of the GTX295. Real world is closer to 180w average.

You're either a liar or you're getting old:



What part of this was in any way "positive?" Funny, I don't know anyone who likes "loud ass cards" or ones that have to "push all the hot air out of that little openning."

Or do you like the chip for being "huge?" Beats me.

Not to mention:

Rule #33 of the Internet: He who doth quoteth the taunt of "fanboy" first is himself the biggest fanboy.

The huge die size is a positive, as I've already explained, and I'm sure you didn't notice since you only pay attention when someone is speaking negatively of ATi.

And you did everything but come right out and say it directly, so you cast the first stone there buddy...

 

[The Witcher]

Hey, could someone remind me of how much was the GTX260 when it was released ?

I bought it after a few months of it release for like $230 as I remember, I won't buy these new graphic cards until they reach a reasonable price point which is for me : $200~$280

 

[btarunr]

Ok, calm down people.

 

[lemonadesoda]

... Secondly I'm hearing it's whisper-quiet.

188W of badness. I wonder how they keep that quiet?

Ummm. 3x 2560x1600 sounds good to me. Time to upgrade my desktop arrangement.

 

[wahdangun]

linkies

here the link :
http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.p...extra=page=1


i think people just eager to see the benches and can't wait that long, and it will be starting a riot in here if ati didn't release the benches

 

[KainXS]

404 not found, but I think that bench isn't far off, I personally think it will match and probably outperform the GTX295

 

[pantherx12]

298w is way over what the actual TDP of the GTX295. Real world is closer to 180w average.

Aye but bare in mind the 188 is the max on the new atis, real world average is bound to be less aswell right : ]

I'm willing to bet 20 pence that that little opening is enough, how ever ultimately its irrelevent, how many people own cards direct from ATI/Nvidia?

I'm pretty sure most people get cards from the likes of powercolor/xfx/sparkle bollocks like that.

 

[btarunr]

188W of badness. I wonder how they keep that quiet?

I'm hearing that not only is it whisper-quiet, but also surprisingly cool (surprising for its ~180W load power consumption). Wait till the 23rd.

 

[pantherx12]

Wiz got some of these cards right? I know he can't publish a review just yet, but can he tell us what the red bits at the end do?

 

[a_ump]

look at this:

well the only problem with that is it says HD 5870 OC. for all we know they could have it under water with insane clocks. I wish they'd done that at stock instead. However it is impressive none the less.

 

[btarunr]

Wiz got some of these cards right? I know he can't publish a review just yet, but can he tell us what the red bits at the end do?

Just decorative.

 

[newtekie1]

Aye but bare in mind the 188 is the max on the new atis, real world average is bound to be less aswell right : ]

I'm willing to bet 20 pence that that little opening is enough, how ever ultimately its irrelevent, how many people own cards direct from ATI/Nvidia?

I'm pretty sure most people get cards from the likes of powercolor/xfx/sparkle bollocks like that.

But most of those companies use the reference design. I fully expect the design to change by the time the retail design is finalized though.

I'm hearing that not only is it whisper-quiet, but also surprisingly cool (surprising for its ~180W load power consumption). Wait till the 23rd.

I hope this is true, because I love my HD4890, but the only thing I dislike is how hot it runs and how loud the fan is.

 

[lemonadesoda]

I hope the 188W is not actually true... but it a misdirection just like the number of shaders on the 4xxx series that ATi pulled last time prior to launch.

188W might be whisper quiet and cool at the desktop in 2D (and running 27W) but there is no way 188W is going to be cool'n'quiet while gaming, stock or OC.

 

[btarunr]

My claim includes 'load'. Again, Max ≠ Load. There's a clear difference between the two which you can look up in our latest reviews. Here's a sample: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Mushkin/GTX_295_Single_PCB/28.html

Trivia includes: GTX 295's max consumption is 320W, and that of GTX 285 is 218W. So Cypress beats them both at max power.

So this is where Cypress will land (red mark), going by AMD's value of 188W max power:

 

[lemonadesoda]

^ OK, gotya.

Just that newteckie was complaining about the noise from his card that is 190W... so unless something very clever is going on... I would assume similar power, heat, and cooling issues to 4890. Obviously performance per watt has increased significantly... but 188W is still a high figure. Being less than GTX295 is nothing to brag about since GTX295 should be ashamed of itself running at an output enough to start up a commerical jet engine and warm an Olympic swimming pool.