New Life for the Pentium and Celeron Brands

[malware]

Intel is about to keep the well known Pentium brand, with releasing the next Pentium E1000 family in Q2 2007. Intel Pentium E1000 (Conroe-L) are single core processors based on Intels newest Core architecture and target for the value market. Cheaper version of Conroe-L based processors will also be released as Celeron 400 family in Q3 2007. Conroe-L was also known as Core 2 Solo in the beginning, but eventually Intel decided to to extend the life of Pentium and Celeron. It is manufactured by 65nm process and is expected to replace Pentium 4 500 and 600 series. There are 3 models to be released in Q2 2007, including E1020 (1.4GHz), E1040 (1.6GHz) and E1060 (1.8GHz). They all have 1MB L2 cache and 800MHz FSB, where their TDP is 65W. For the Celeron 400 family, there is no detail information announced.

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[evil bill]

It is manufactured by 65nm process and is expected to replace Pentium 4 500 and 600 series.

does this mean replace as in the Pentium E1000 becomes Intels Single Core range and it will need a 945/965/975 (or AMD/Nvidia equiv.) motherboard as Core 2 Duo does, or do you think that with the appropriate BIOS, Motherboards that currently support the 5xx and 6XX will also support this range.

 

[malware]

does this mean replace as in the Pentium E1000 becomes Intels Single Core range and it will need a 945/965/975 (or AMD/Nvidia equiv.) motherboard as Core 2 Duo does, or do you think that with the appropriate BIOS, Motherboards that currently support the 5xx and 6XX will also support this range.

I doubt that a BIOS update will help the 945 chipset to support the Core 2 architecture.

 

[evil bill]

you misunderstand me

there are already 945 boards that support Core 2 Duo, for instance the Asus P5LD2-VM DH

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&model=1146&modelmenu=1

In fact, the P5PE-VM which uses the 865G chipset, and is AGP supports Core 2 Duo

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1276&l1=3&l2=11&l3=272


What I was wondering was whether the Pentium E1000 range would be supported by the same chipsets as those which support the 500 and 600 series. I did a bit more digging after my initial post and the suggestion
is that Intel are introducing these single core Conroe deriviatives as legacy chips to fulfill long term contracts, e.g. 7 year renew and replace contracts with Dell. As such, I think they probably will be interchangeable with 500 and 600 Pentiums.

However, they will be far more powerful than the 500/600 and will hopefully be priced sensibly. For most users of this forum, a completely new system and a Core 2 Duo or Quadro are probably more likely, but Id wager there have been few occasion where upgrading the cpu in an older system has been as worth it.

 

[infrared]

I really hope they will be compatable with the older motherboards, I got my Asus P5WD2 Premium sat around doing nothing. If it doesn't sell i'll buy one of those and clock the crap outta it. I already know the board is good for over 370mhz fsb, would be interesting to see if it could make it to 500mhz.

 

[evil bill]

would you not just need to get it to 266, and the quad multiplier takes it to 1066 ?


EDIT - just read your sales spec - I now see where you are comign from

 

[cdawall]

you misunderstand me

there are already 945 boards that support Core 2 Duo, for instance the Asus P5LD2-VM DH

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&model=1146&modelmenu=1

In fact, the P5PE-VM which uses the 865G chipset, and is AGP supports Core 2 Duo

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1276&l1=3&l2=11&l3=272


What I was wondering was whether the Pentium E1000 range would be supported by the same chipsets as those which support the 500 and 600 series. I did a bit more digging after my initial post and the suggestion
is that Intel are introducing these single core Conroe deriviatives as legacy chips to fulfill long term contracts, e.g. 7 year renew and replace contracts with Dell. As such, I think they probably will be interchangeable with 500 and 600 Pentiums.

However, they will be far more powerful than the 500/600 and will hopefully be priced sensibly. For most users of this forum, a completely new system and a Core 2 Duo or Quadro are probably more likely, but Id wager there have been few occasion where upgrading the cpu in an older system has been as worth it.

the 865 works w/ damn near every s775 proccie on the market hell thats what i use w/ my pentium D 930

 

[KennyT772]

um hello...its a conroe core...well half of one. if your mobo doesnt support conroe then it wont support an even newer proc.

 

[wazzledoozle]

They should have just called it the Pentium V. People would be shatting all over themselves to get a shiny new Dell with one.

 

[evil bill]

um hello...its a conroe core...well half of one. if your mobo doesnt support conroe then it wont support an even newer proc.

you say that as if its an absolute fact, when it is no such thing

My mobo is a P5P800 (865PE chipset) and according to Asus it doesnt support Dual Core anything - Core 2 Duo, Pentium D 800 or 900- no amount of BIOS flash is going to get round that one, so I accept its not going to take a Dual Core Conroe..(although I note cdawalls comments with interest)

However, it DOES support the 500 and 600 range, albeit a BIOS flash is required for some 600s, and I think the 670 is not supported at all, or they havent created a BIOS which supports it.

Given Conroe-L is going to be 800Mhz FSB and Single Core, and that one of its reasons for existance is supposedly as a legacy part, you CANNOT justify that kind of statement at this time without some hard facts.

 

[cdawall]

you say that as if its an absolute fact, when it is no such thing

My mobo is a P5P800 (865PE chipset) and according to Asus it doesnt support Dual Core anything - Core 2 Duo, Pentium D 800 or 900- no amount of BIOS flash is going to get round that one, so I accept its not going to take a Dual Core Conroe..(although I note cdawalls comments with interest)

However, it DOES support the 500 and 600 range, albeit a BIOS flash is required for some 600s, and I think the 670 is not supported at all, or they havent created a BIOS which supports it.

Given Conroe-L is going to be 800Mhz FSB and Single Core, and that one of its reasons for existance is supposedly as a legacy part, you CANNOT justify that kind of statement at this time without some hard facts.

mines a gigibyte somthin or another i dont feel like looking

 

[POGE]

Dont you mean "new life"?

 

[infrared]

Fixed